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synesthesia Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:34 PM
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I was going to vote for Obama, but the SHEER VENOM to Hillary makes me realize why we need a woman
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 01:08 PM by synesthesia
Ugh, how petty can people here be? So either a woman has to be cold to be strong, or she has to be manipulative to show any emotion?

I'm in favor of Obama because he was against the war, but if we don't break the glass ceiling ONCE AND FOR ALL, we're never going to get past this rampant sexism (even on a so called 'progressive' forum). And it's becoming clear that it's not about Hillary, but about now wanting a woman in charge.

She cries seeing an old friend, and everyone here parrots freeper talking points?

Hasn't Hillary been through enough from the repukes for us? She has suffered their attacks for so long.

I will be casting my vote for Hillary so my daughter doesn't have to be ridiculed for showing emotion. So she can be strong without being seen as uncaring.

edit: to those who are saying I shouldn't just vote for a woman

it's not because she's a woman, but because we have to break the glass ceiling, which i thought we were making progress on

but then i log on here to see people ridiculing hillary for showing emotion, and i realize we're still in the 1950s, and if not hillary, then WHEN? and how can my daughter grow up in this filth: what's next, she has fat ankles!

Hillary has had to put up with this hate for decades from the repuke wingers, and although she's too corporate for me, voted for the war, which I protested, it sickens me when people act like she's Bush
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:34 PM
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1. LOL.
As a lifelong democrat, you're very concerned.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:36 PM
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6. I'm running out of relevant lolcats to post in these kinds of threads. n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:35 PM
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2. Oh Dear God
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:35 PM
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3. Welcome to DU
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:35 PM
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4. Basing your vote on DU?
Jeeze, get a grip.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:36 PM
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5. o no!!! please, please, reconsider.
:rofl:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:36 PM
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7. "so called progressive forum"
if that were true, there wouldn't be so many Hillary supporters.
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:36 PM
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8. Are you hearing with your eyes or seeing with your ears? nt
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:37 PM
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9. Riiiight...
is ALL the "ugliness of this place" due to sexism, in your mind?

90% of the long-standing members of my ignore list - from before anyone announced for this presidential race - are now Hillary supporters.

That may not tell you anything, but it says something to me.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:43 PM
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Same here
Of course, my ignore list is populated with DLC assholes who come here to cajole and blame liberals for everything, so the fact that they support the queen of the DLC comes to no surprise to me.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:38 PM
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10. Good one!
:rofl:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:39 PM
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11. You're changing your vote because of some idiots on DU?
If you want to vote for Hillary because you think she'd be the best leader of the country, that's great. But to do it based on the objections on some super-partison blowhards seems hasty. If there's anything I've learned on DU it's that people will say and do anything, regardless of logic, to tear down another candidate.

I hope that you vote your heart and your conscience.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:39 PM
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12. I wouldn't base my vote on BO because of his stance on the
war because he is uncertain how he would have voted had he been in ofc.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:39 PM
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13. Maybe having emotions should become a human quality and our sons can cry too
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Bostonglobechicka Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:40 PM
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14. this is sick. are u serious? ur voting for her because shes a woman?
Well, do whatever you want. Im hoping you realise that what a few idiots here say doesnt change policy, such as the important iwr war in iraq bill which obama was against. please think about your decision.
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synesthesia Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:43 PM
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18. *
not because she's a woman, but because we have to break the glass ceiling, which i thought we were making progress on

but then i log on here to see people ridiculing hillary for showing emotion, and i realize we're still in the 1950s, and if not hillary, then WHEN? and how can my daughter grow up in such a sexist country!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:45 PM
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21. You are right about the glass ceiling. Our daughters will never break through if we don't speak up!
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Bostonglobechicka Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:41 PM
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15. also, may i say. youre actually putting women back by making your vote about gender
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:42 PM
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16. What a coinky dink! I was totally going to vote for Clinton tomorrow!
Except I remembered that I already cast my mail in vote for Barack!

GOBAMA!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:05 PM
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31. LOL!
:thumbsup:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:42 PM
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17. Some of you on this thread are totally being played
They've been slamming HRC since they joined. Now, they are "changing" their candidate so they can slam the OTHER one. It's a pattern I've been noticing the last few weeks amongst certain posters.

And yeah, OP, you know I'm right. I'm sick of this divisive garbage on here.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:43 PM
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19. The sexist bullshit has been a common theme on this board/msm/online for the entire primary.
I'm mad as fucking hell, and I will NOT take it anymore.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:48 PM
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23. how about sexism has been pushed by hillary supporters for weeks
any attack on her is a sexist attack. quite frankly i am sick of her supporters saying it...
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:53 PM
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27. You embrace sexism. Good luck in the working world.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:33 PM
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35. Absolutely not, but I find it offensive that sexism is used to describe any criticsm of Hillary.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:43 PM
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20. How utterly sexist of you.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:46 PM
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22. Don't let this place affect you that way.
It doesn't represent this country. As an Obama supporter, hell, it doesn't even represent me.

This place is going to get really ugly, unfortunately. One way or another people are going to lash out.

I, for one, won't be here tomorrow.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:48 PM
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24. Vote for who you want. And if you want to blame your vote on posters at DU, go for it.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 12:50 PM by John Q. Citizen
i have two daughters, Im voting for Obama, but not because of posters on DU.

I'm trying to raise my kids to not be sexists. In other words, that we can't judge people based on what sex they happen to be.

I tell them that there are women who are jerks and there are men who are jerks.

There are women who are wise strong and loving and there are men who are wise strong and loving.

Same thing with skin tone, issues of physical beauty, body shapes, etc.

I've voted for a woman for Vice President twice, and in the second case I thought she would have been better at the top of the ticket.

I'm not sure how people battle sexism by basing their choice on the sex of a candidate, but maybe I'm missing something that you see and I don't.

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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:48 PM
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25. Really - it IS the best reason to vote for her - other then that though...???
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synesthesia Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:01 PM
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28. *
theres not much difference in their policy anyways now that i think about it
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:02 PM
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30. Ho boy -- I love being right
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:49 PM
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26. agreed
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 12:49 PM by lionesspriyanka
edited for polite language use
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:01 PM
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29. So you teach your daughters to marry their identity
instead of developing one of their own. Nice. How last century of you.:eyes:
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:07 PM
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32. Everyone has to be cold to be strong--men and women
Yeah... cry in public and I'm going to (at least internally) ridicule you.

Jeepers... I'm sure Putin will respect someone who cries. The next president has to do business with some pretty cold people. The next president cannot look emotionally weak.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:10 PM
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33. I don't think you're...sincere (is the nicest way I can put it) but
I agree about the right wing talking points.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:33 PM
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34. she IS a scorpio. I like that vindictiveness in the next President.
Somebody needs to throw limbaugh off the air, roll back every single solitary thing the reeps have done, start some massive forensic accounting investigations, indict every goddamned ONE OF THEM, and destroy the "Republican Party" for good.

I'm for Hil, I guess.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:18 PM
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36. We need a war supporter like we need a hole in the head n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:19 PM
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37. I don't believe a single one of these posts. You were for Hillary all along.
Nobody in their right mind would let some anonymous posters on a message board influence their choice of candidate.

Nobody. In their right mind.
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