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Mon Feb-04-08 03:19 PM
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Untrue, dumb DU News of the day: Hillary cried and Michele won't support Hillary |
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Hillary did not cry today to generate votes and Michelle did not say she wouldn't support Hillary. Neither of these two stories are true, but both have generated numerous threads here.
You wanna bet that nobody is talking about either of these tomorrow?
Why? 'Cause neither of them are true.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:21 PM
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1. Lisa Caputo said Hillary "choked up" |
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I just saw it on MSNBC. I've been busy this morning and that's the first thing I saw when I turned on the teevee, Hillary is exhausted and got choked up at some event where some woman told a story that was very touching.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:24 PM
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5. I didn't see the exhaustion...I saw a very sentimental intro that led to...nothing |
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Seriously, the exhaustion story is a lie. There really was nothing there but an incredibly nice and touching intro from someone she'd known for her whole career. But I didn't see any tears. Sorry.
I did see the talking head for Hillary on MSNBC put out to do damage control though who mentioned the exhaustion. She freely admitted she knew nothing about it though.. I think this is a case of trying to get ahead of the story before having a clue what happened.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:34 PM
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14. Lisa Caputo is the one who reported it |
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I didn't see her doing any damage control, I saw her reporting the story.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:37 PM
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16. I was referring to a Hillary spokesperson...nt |
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:39 PM
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18. Yeah, Lisa Caputo, Hillary Adviser |
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Reporting on Hillary being exhausted and choking up at the roundtable.
I don't even care anymore. She's done. But don't attack people for reporting something her own campaign is saying.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:22 PM
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2. And, because there will be new, sensational untruths to get bent out |
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of shape about.
If you don't like the subject of petty-bickering-outrage in GD:P, just wait a few hours. It will be onto something new.
:P
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:22 PM
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3. Nice word-gaming there |
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"Michelle did not say she wouldn't support Hillary"
How about this:
"Michelle, when asked, would not say she would support Hillary"
That statement is true, and utterly disgusting... like beyond disgusting.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:24 PM
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6. Michelle Obama said that everyone in this party would support whomever the nominee is |
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I don't think you can get a lot more specific than that.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:26 PM
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9. Can't we get outraged over things that have at least a spark of the "real"? |
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Utterly disgusting? Beyond disgusting? Perhaps I might use this statement for those who makes judgments without reading the whole quote...
Seriously, I'm sure if you hate Obama, you can find LOTS better reasons to get outraged than this.
Same for those "DISGUSTED" over Clinton's supposed crying thing...
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:23 PM
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4. Amen. I admit there are "cynics" on my side as well.* |
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Let's join forces and admonish them. We are the Chorus of Optimists!
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:25 PM
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7. We can't actually say why Hillary really cried, only she knows it. I'll give her the benefit of the |
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:28 PM
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12. No need to give her the benefit of doubt...just watch the video. This is a non-story |
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If you watch this video and conclude there was anything "there" there worth reporting, I'd really consider checking your biases a bit and rewatching. There wasn't anything there worth reporting...truly.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:25 PM
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8. When asked, Michelle refused to say she would support Hillary if Hillary won. NIce try |
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with word play, though, as that other poster already told you.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:26 PM
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:36 PM
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15. I did. What's your point, that we're not allowed to get upset at disloyal comments by Michele? |
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:39 PM
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17. Michelle Obama said that everyone in this party would support whomever the nominee is... |
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How is this disloyal? But again, feel free to get embittered and enraged and hate whomever you feel like hating at this moment. I'm sure there'll be something more "real" than this in a few hours to tied you over till real news breaks tomorrow.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:50 PM
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20. Everyone in the party, but not necessarily her. Here is what she said: |
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Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 03:51 PM by mtnsnake
"You know, everyone in this party is gonna work hard for whoever the nominee is. Umm, I think that we're all working for the same thing, uhh, and I think that our goal is to make sure that the person in the WH is going to take this country in a different direction. I happen to believe that Barack is the only person who can really do that."
In her crafty coverup here, she said everyone IN THIS PARTY is going to work hard for the nominee. She still refused to say that SHE would support Hillary if Hillary won and even suggested that Obama was the ONLY one suitable to be the nominee in her opinion because he's the "only person who can really do that." Until you find where she said she would support Hillary if Hillary was our nominee, don't waste my time trying to prove something that doesn't exist.
Here's the entire exchange again, not that it will matter to you:
Interviewer: "Could you see yourself working to support Hillary Clinton?" (This was asked of her in regards to the possibility of her husband losing to Hillary).
Michelle: "I'd have to think about that. I'd have to think about, um, uh, policies, her approach, uh, her tone"
Interviewer: "So that's not a given"
Michelle: "You know, everyone in this party is gonna work hard for whoever the nominee is. Umm, I think that we're all working for the same thing, uhh, and I think that our goal is to make sure that the person in the WH is going to take this country in a different direction. I happen to believe that Barack is the only person who can really do that." End of interview.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:55 PM
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22. Well again, watch the video...this occurred right after she said she would never |
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want to subject her family through all this. This was the context. That she wouldn't want to continue subjecting her family after she lost is hardly a disgusting revelation. AND AGAIN, she CLEARLY said that everyone - which includes her husband - is going to work hard for whoever the nominee is.
Again, feel outraged, disgusted, angry, whatever you need to manufacture to generate the false-hate over the candidate you don't support.
Just remember, as Yoda once said, hate leads to the dark side. And if you're going there, at least try to base it on a real event.
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Mon Feb-04-08 04:07 PM
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25. Spin until you're blue in the face. n/t |
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:27 PM
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11. Sadly, the latter is true |
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When asked that question, there was only one right answer. "I’d have to think about that" wasn't it.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:29 PM
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13. Well, enjoy your manufactured outrage then...or, um, read the full quote...nt |
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:42 PM
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19. Desperate CYA maneuvers from Team Obama don't impress me |
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The question was, will you work for Clinton if your husband loses. It wasn't asking if she was going to march down to Clinton HQ the next day and sign up for the phone banks or any of that, it was a simple "will you be in her corner" question.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:51 PM
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21. Desparate CYA maneuvers? Did you watch the video? |
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'Cause you'd look pretty silly sticking the desperate CYA label on her if you haven't. And if you have, I really have a hard time figuring out how you generated that opinion.
Again, this is a non-story. It will die almost instantly in everyone's minds, other than those interested in generating fake outrage. And even for those, the next time there is "real" outrage, this story will die for them as well.
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Mon Feb-04-08 03:59 PM
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23. "Could you see yourself working to support Hillary Clinton?" |
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only has one right answer, just as "could you see yourself working to support Barack Obama?" posed to Bill Clinton only has one right answer.
That's all there is to it.
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Mon Feb-04-08 04:07 PM
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24. Amen. Case closed. n/t |
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