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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:02 AM
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The Clintons Massive 25% Lead in CA & MA disappeared. Obama had ONE WEEK.
A little over one freaking week. Ten days to make up double digit deficit.

In ten days Obama shrank Hillary's lead in two large states.

And beat her in the MAJORITY of other states.

Super Tuesday coming so soon after SC, so many states at once, was in the front runners favor. Clinton blew it big time.

Anyone belittling Obama's performance in CA and MA and the rest of Super Tuesday states is whistling past the graveyard.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:02 AM
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1. Stop crying. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:06 AM
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5. You think that's crying? BTW, a Hillary supporter shouldn't mention crying.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:08 AM
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9. lol
that was hilarious!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:34 AM
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24. Zing!
:toast:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:02 PM
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27. YOWZAAAA! That'll leave a mark!
:thumbsup:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:06 AM
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6. Do you really think Obama supporters are "crying"? really?
How odd. I'm more than pleased with the results yesterday. I thought she'd take 100-200 more pledged delegates than he. In my eyes, yesterday was great for him and the upcoming races all lean in his direction. Add to that, her little money problem and his fundraising prowess, and I'm cautiously optimistic- more so than I was yesterday morning.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:32 AM
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23. No. This particular poster constantly cries to Clinton supporters.
Very unbecoming.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:04 AM
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2. Whatever makes you feel better. n/t
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:05 AM
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3. I think it's great Hillary won MA....
in spite of all the Kennedy Clan and Kerry endorsements. I was thrilled she won that state. I also get a kick out of Obama really being a winner because he shrunk the leads. That's a real hoot.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:07 AM
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7. It's even greater that Obama won MO, the "bellwether" state.
:)
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:10 AM
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11. where every Democrat in the State stumped for him
and he only one by a couple thousand votes?

Hillary wins in Blue states, Obama wins in Red states. with a few exceptions (home states, CT)
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:11 AM
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13. Obama only won by 1% even with ...
the help of McCaskill. Using Obama supporter logic that means Hillary really won.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:16 AM
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17. Who won the DELEGATES?
That is Obama supporter logic.

Show me that Clinton won the delegates - and maybe she did, I haven't seen those numbers - then you have a case.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:08 AM
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10. Did I say he won CA or MA? Point is, Hillary supporters are too blinded by their bias
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 11:09 AM by cryingshame
they can't admit her wins in those states was about the best she could do. Hold onto leads in two states. And those leads were greatly diminished while Obama managed to on and win the majority of other states.

BTW, notice I said "bias" and not "cult mentality".

See, I'm not an asshole like so many Hillary supporters posting here.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:16 AM
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16. It is a real hoot!
some would call it an impossible feat! Who ever would have thought a very short time ago, that one candidate could rally so many people to engage in the political process? A real hoot for Democracy!
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM
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20. Yes, Hillary has certainly rallied a lot of people.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:06 AM
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4. Edwards dropping out had a huge impact on yesterday.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:34 AM
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25. Per the NYT it helped Clinton at least in Oklahoma
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:07 AM
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8. one week?
he only declared for President last week? or he only started to pay attention to CA and MA last week? imagine if he'd paid attention to them before?

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:10 AM
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12. Maybe you should see were he was polling in Iowa before he won there. This primary was compressed
and it favored Clintons heavily.

It was stacked against ANY challenger to the Clinton Machine.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM
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19. again
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 11:21 AM by northzax
I keep hearing it was stacked by the Clinton Machine. I will point out that in Massachusetts, for example, Barack Obama had on stage with him the Democratic Governor, both Democratic Senators, every single state wide office holding Democrat that's the Clinton Machine? Same thing in Missouri. This whole 'clinton machine' thing is getting old, since Obama is a part of the Daschle machine. The man has raised over $100 million in six months, that's not establishment enough for you? he's been endorsed by half the party. can we stop this already?

and by the way, if it was a stacked primary season, it would be winner-take-all, and this would be over already, and Hillary would be preparing to take on McCain.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:13 AM
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14. Well, considering that she had most of the MSM
against her, and also Liberal outlets such as Move On and Air America, the Kennedys, tons of politicians and almost all endorsements went to Obama I think she did amazingly well.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:43 AM
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26. Have you ever asked yourself *WHY*....
...she has a bunch of "Liberal outlets" against her?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:15 AM
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15. Hillary's high point was yesterday. Obama's even now with MORE highpoints coming soon.
Yesterday was a GREAT showing for Obama who only needed to get close. Who knew he would dominate in so much of the country?

He has excellent national spokespeople.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:17 AM
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18. Those leads did not disappear. They remained double digits in her victories
You are reading from your hoped for script, not the actual one. Clinton won MA by 15% and she won CA by 10%. They remain substantial victories; margins greater than what Obama won Iowa by.

The race tightened but the Obama surge was checked. After closing the gap for weeks with undecideds going for Obama, those who decided in CA at the last minute broke for Clinton.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:21 AM
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21. I agree. I wish he'd had another week but he didn't. Plenty of time though for Texas and Ohio!
Time for those of us in these states to GOTV and make it happen. YES WE CAN! :kick:
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:21 AM
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22. Oh please!
Obama had The American Royal Family The Kennedy's and then he had Oprah the most Famous Women in America, plus Mass Senator ex-President candidate Kerry. And still Obama lost Mass and Calf. instead of being happy on how will both Hillary and Obama did and how many Democrats show up to vote. But lets just keep on shitting on one another o.k. o.k.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:32 PM
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28. what do you mean he had a week? he wasn't campaigning in CA until last week? he had
just as much time as the other candidates, an he lost.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:34 PM
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29. Next 5 Primaries: Where's your Latino "firewall" Billary????
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 03:34 PM by GalleryGod
Non-existent !
I SMELL SWEEP !!!!!:yourock: :headbang: :grouphug:
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