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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:34 PM
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For those still deciding: A comparative analysis of the Clinton and Obama foreign policy teams:
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4940

Behind Obama and Clinton



Stephen Zunes | February 4, 2008

Editor: John Feffer

Voters on the progressive wing of the Democratic Party are rightly disappointed by the similarity of the foreign policy positions of the two remaining Democratic Party presidential candidates, Senator Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama. However, there are still some real discernable differences to be taken into account...

As a result, the kind of people the next president appoints to top positions in national defense, intelligence, and foreign affairs is critical...

...

Contrasting Teams

Senator Clinton’s foreign policy advisors tend to be veterans of President Bill Clinton’s administration, most notably former secretary of state Madeleine Albright and former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger. Her most influential advisor - and her likely choice for Secretary of State - is Richard Holbrooke. Holbrooke served...

Senator Barack Obama’s foreign policy advisers, who on average tend to be younger than those of the former first lady, include mainstream strategic analysts who have worked with previous Democratic administrations, such as former national security advisors Zbigniew Brzezinski and Anthony Lake, former assistant secretary of state Susan Rice, and former navy secretary Richard Danzig. They have also included some of the more enlightened and creative members of the Democratic Party establishment, such as Joseph Cirincione and Lawrence Korb of the Center for American Progress, and former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke. His team also includes the noted human rights scholar and international law advocate Samantha Power - author of a recent New Yorker article on U.S. manipulation of the UN in post-invasion Iraq - and other liberal academics. Some of his advisors, however, have particularly poor records on human rights and international law, such as retired General Merrill McPeak, a backer of Indonesia’s occupation of East Timor, and Dennis Ross, a supporter of Israel’s occupation of the West Bank.

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Contrasting Issues

While some of Obama’s key advisors, like Larry Korb, have expressed concern at the enormous waste from excess military spending, Clinton’s advisors have been strong supporters of increased resources for the military...

While Susan Rice has emphasized how globalization has led to uneven development that has contributed to destabilization and extremism and has stressed the importance of bottom-up anti-poverty programs, Berger and Albright have been outspoken supporters of globalization on the current top-down neo-liberal lines...

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Pre-War Positions

During the lead-up to the war, Obama’s advisors were suspicious of the Bush administration’s claims that Iraq somehow threatened U.S. national security to the extent that it required a U.S. invasion and occupation of that country. For example, Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security advisor in the Carter administration, argued that public support for war “should not be generated by fear-mongering or demagogy.”

By contrast, Clinton’s top advisor and her likely pick for secretary of state, Richard Holbrooke, insisted that Iraq remained “a clear and present danger at all times.”

Brzezinski warned that the international community would view the invasion of a country that was no threat to the United States as an illegitimate an act of aggression...

Another key Obama advisor, Joseph Cirincione of the Carnegie Endowment, argued that the goal of containing the potential threat from Iraq had been achieved...

By contrast, Clinton advisor Sandy Berger, who served as her husband’s national security advisor, insisted that “even a contained Saddam” was “harmful to stability and to positive change in the region,” and therefore the United States had to engage in “regime change” in order to “fight terror, avert regional conflict, promote peace, and protect the security of our friends and allies.”

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National Security

Not every one of Clinton’s foreign policy advisors is a hawk. Her team also includes some centrist opponents of the war, including retired General Wesley Clark and former Ambassador Joseph Wilson.

On balance, it appears likely that a Hillary Clinton administration, like Bush’s, would be more likely to embrace exaggerated and alarmist reports regarding potential national security threats, to ignore international law and the advice of allies, and to launch offensive wars. By contrast, a Barack Obama administration would be more prone to examine the actual evidence of potential threats before reacting, to work more closely with America’s allies to maintain peace and security, to respect the country’s international legal obligations, and to use military force only as a last resort.

Progressive Democrats do have reason to be disappointed with Obama’s foreign policy agenda. At the same time, as The Nation magazine noted, members of Obama’s foreign policy team are “more likely to stress ’soft power’ issues like human rights, global development and the dangers of failed states.” As a result, “Obama may be more open to challenging old Washington assumptions and crafting new approaches.”

And new approaches are definitely needed.

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Two things:

1.) There are real differences between the two candidates if you really look.

2.) I find it interesting that Joe Wilson is one of her advisors given that he wrote an opinion piece on Clinton and Obama the other day. Were his interests disclosed in that piece? If not, why?


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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:03 AM
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1. this is a good article people...
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:07 AM
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2. Nice contrast

Thanks for that.


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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:24 AM
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3. I've been looking for something like this...
Thanks for posting.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:11 AM
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5. your welcome
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:26 AM
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4. You know what's funny.. the vast majority on the Obama team....
also worked for the Clinton administration. Just downright tranformational!!! LMAO.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:11 AM
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12. good point!
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 11:35 AM by Scriptor Ignotus
he should staff his foreign policy team full of people with no experience or Washington connections whatsoever! thanks for the tip!


edited to remove snark. (well some of it, lol)
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:29 AM
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6. Samantha Power is really great
and Rice, too. Brzezinski, not so much.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:36 AM
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7. It's like choosing between "bomb Iran" and "bomb Pakistan" n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 08:36 AM by CGowen
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:43 AM
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8. Agree!!!!
This says it all from your post:

Progressive Democrats do have reason to be disappointed with Obama’s foreign policy agenda. At the same time, as The Nation magazine noted, members of Obama’s foreign policy team are “more likely to stress ’soft power’ issues like human rights, global development and the dangers of failed states.” As a result, “Obama may be more open to challenging old Washington assumptions and crafting new approaches.”

And new approaches are definitely needed.
:grouphug:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:51 AM
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9. Obama supported Isreal attacking lebanon
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 08:53 AM by niceypoo
in which they obliterated whole villages and everyone in them. Now tell me how high and mighty and liberal his foriegn policy would be? BTW, he, along with Bush, blamed Iran.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:14 AM
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13. Really, do you have any more info on this?
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:16 AM
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15. Link?
:hide:
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:17 AM
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10. Well, I'd take any of those advisors over Condi, Karl Rove,
etc.

Thanks so much for posting something with substance.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 10:13 AM
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11. Quite a meaty article
Thanks for posting. It helps to solidify my support for Obama. :thumbsup:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:16 AM
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14. And Bill Clinton was always in such a hurry to rush to war -
I'd say his advisors did a great job.
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