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Thu Feb-07-08 07:06 PM
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I voted for Senator Obama in the Massachusetts primary on Tuesday. |
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If Senator Clinton wins out and takes the nomination, I'll be perfectly pleased. Policy-wise, there isn't much difference between Senators Clinton and Obama.
In my opinion, Senator Obama will make the better General Election candidate against Senator McCain, who looked to be in control of the GOP race before Tuesday night, and now has it all but wrapped up.
Clinton v. McCain takes the war pretty much off the table, rhetorically, and will lead to twisted and tortured explanations from both sides. Obama has no such burden.
Also, Obama is polling very well among independent voters, something that hurts McCain badly.
So...I guess I'm a cultist now, right?
Cool.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:07 PM
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1. did you get a pony? n/t |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:09 PM
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6. How marvelous the level of diagogue is around here. |
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You're a credit to your crewmates.
Or something.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:17 PM
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34. touchy, touchy........ n/t |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:07 PM
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2. Welcome, William ! What's your favorite flavor of Kool-Aid? We have plenty ! |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:13 PM
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oops, just figured out I was missing the tone
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:08 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:08 PM
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4. In the words of George Wallace, there's not a dime's worth of difference |
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between the two candidates, policy-wise. Right now, it's a race between style and experience.
I'm not too enthusiastic about either one, but I'll vote for either of them.
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:19 PM
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63. That is not true. Please read if open government interests you: |
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Fri Feb-08-08 04:55 AM
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88. Thanks for all you do beachmom, |
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I knew there were people with real morals hanging around somewhere :-)
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:08 PM
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5. I disagree on Clinton v McCain. 1 year and we are out vs 1000 years of more war |
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granted Clinton's policy isn't as good as Edwards' was, but neither is Obama's. However, he does have bragging rights, but I don't think that will do much for him in the general.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:10 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:10 PM
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Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 07:10 PM by sniffa
:toast:
And where is your Cultist sigline? (DS1's creation)
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:10 PM
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Gonna have to think on that one...
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:50 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:10 PM
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9. The Obama Cultists must have gotten to you and forcefed you the Kool Aid |
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Damn them! Damn them to hell!
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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11. You realize, if we each start a thread for each vote we cast ..... LOL |
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So, does your cult have a team color or secret handshake yet? :rofl:
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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18. I thought this was standard behavior. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:49 PM
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59. Unfortunately, it is. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:13 PM
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21. He's Will Pitt so we supposedly care. n/t |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:14 PM
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27. You clicked the thread, read all the way down to this post, and then replied. |
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You care.
Even if you pretend you don't.
People who don't care neither click nor post.
So thanks for the kick.
Jackass.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:19 PM
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Thanks for stepping down into the sewer for the update, I'm sure you will close the door on your way back out.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:19 PM
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38. Irrational exuberance? Nah, meet irrational apathy. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:21 PM
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41. LOL! It's about time, William. |
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You've made my day! :toast:
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Fri Feb-08-08 05:51 PM
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106. I think what incapsulated is saying here is |
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although we may disagree on the choice of candidates, thank you for exercising your constitutional right to vote and for all your contributions to DU.
(I'm paraphrasing.)
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:14 PM
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28. Hellloooo my pretty... we were waiting for a proper Sacrifice... mwahhhhh hahhh |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:21 PM
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39. K, you said, "my pretty" on purpose... |
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... admit it.
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Bad, bad, bad!
- Dave
P.S. Your robe will arrive by Flying Monkey Messenger?
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:25 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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"Clinton v. McCain takes the war pretty much off the table, rhetorically, and will lead to twisted and tortured explanations from both sides. Obama has no such burden."
Yep.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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13. With Obama we can have the kind of debate on the war we want to have |
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When Jack McCain pats himself on the back for backing the "surge" and his "good judgment", Obama can counter that he had the good judgment to oppose the war in the first place.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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14. "Clinton v. McCain takes the war pretty much off the table" |
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Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM by BayouBengal07
Additionally, Clinton would have a harder time running on experience against McCain. She'll have to do a pretty quick presto-changeo and become the Change Candidate (TM) in the GE.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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15. I agree. I think Obama has a better chance in the GE. |
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He is a MUCH better speaker than McCain or Clinton too. That helps a LOT. Welcome to our team! Gobama!:D
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:11 PM
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16. I'm sure Senator Obama welcomes your support. |
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Praise http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4432735&mesg_id=4432735">Jebus. The voodoo doll worked. :toast: - Dave P.S. Huge respect for the undecided not remaining undeclared. Hamlet on the Hahbuh no more. ; )
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:12 PM
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19. Would you like to hold the knife or the goblet for catching the blood? |
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We're also going to need your robe size.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:13 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:14 PM
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30. Yeah, that's what yo momma said. |
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:rofl:
Much as hate to admit it, that was pretty funny.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:12 PM
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20. Your robe is in the mail. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:13 PM
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25. I don't think war will be the issue on the voters mind. IT will be the economy by Nov. |
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Second, I don't think that we've answered the Nat'l Security thing. We will need a candidate that can answer that because the fear factor will be poured on...in lieu of the war.
I don't think either candidate has it where Nat'l Security is concerned.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:38 PM
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50. Time to wake up - 3900+ deaths for a war started on lies don't just go away. |
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There's no way the war isn't the Number 1 issue. Guess that's why Obama won in Georgia too, huh?
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Fri Feb-08-08 07:44 AM
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90. Unfortunately the idiots don't care about that. They care about their wallets. |
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Fri Feb-08-08 01:04 PM
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97. They don't agree with you, so they're all idiots, huh? |
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You must have a very small circle of friends.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:13 PM
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My thoughts are the same as yours. I have a personal preference for Obama, but will gladly vote for Hill if she's the nominee.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:17 PM
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36. I. Just. Fell. Over Dead ! I can go to bed happy now.. Will AND Nance ! |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:38 PM
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51. I was wondering if you would check in. |
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56. Obama Girl from way back when ... |
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... but have preferred to rant from "neutral territory" because ALL of our Dem candidates have brought so much to the table since the beginning of this process.
Kucinich spoke for me (for all of us), but I knew he wouldn't last. Neither did he - but that's what made the man so great, his ability to raise the issues that he knew the others would have to address once he spoke about them.
Edwards had my heart from hello - but again, most unfortunately, it takes more than heart to win against the heartless on the other side.
Had Biden been the ultimate choice, I wouldn't exactly have cried myself to sleep. I've always loved his no-nonsense take on things.
But Obama has that indefinable "something" that lifts my spirits, who makes me believe that all is not lost, that better days are indeed within my grasp if I only have the courage to reach out and grab them.
Should Hillary turn out to be the nominee, she has my vote and my full support. I think she'll make a good president - I just personally feel that Obama would make the better president.
In the end, it all comes down to that all-important (D) behind the ultimate candidate's name. I'm hoping for Obama - but that's just my preference - the preference of my fellow Democrats will prevail.
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are you me? Except for "from way back". I found him inspirational, but not crazy about his votes. After my kids went all ga ga for him, I checked him out closer, and he took the edge off the Edwards bow out. Now I am enthusiastic about Obama!
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:58 PM
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62. The two of us posting on the same thread ... |
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... (like showing up at the same cocktail party) should dispel persistent rumours that we are indeed the same person!
Hi, FLDem5! :hi:
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Would that you could put your eloquent words into a plea to Obama to acknowledge it was wrong to hire ex-gays to go for evangelical votes in South Carolina. Were it not for that, I would gladly be with you, but it is a wound that has not healed for many of us yet.
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:24 PM
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It's such a burden to have two such great candidates. I will have no problem voting for Hillary, but my personal preference is also Obama.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:15 PM
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31. I thought you were on the Lee Mercer bandwagon! |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:15 PM
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32. dude, you were already in the Bellichick cult, remember? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:53 PM
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61. where did you find that pic!?! it that from the WS? |
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DH tells me that a similar pic exists of hill in a cub uniform. if you are from chicago, you know what that means.
btw, this cult runs on :beer:
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:15 PM
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33. Typical Obama Cultist. Another political newcomer with no understanding of issues. |
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:sarcasm:
Welcome to the cult. Let us known your jumpsuit size.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:17 PM
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35. So Mr. Pitt, do you know much about their record on foreign policy? |
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Because there's a lot out there to suggest some substantive differences.
www.fpif.org <<< it's a good start, but you can also find good things on commondreams as well.
Also, The Nation is very critical of Hillary and Mark Penn in terms of their corporate ties.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:21 PM
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40. I agree with you on electibility, but more importantly... |
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Do you know the secret handshake, Will?
:thumbsup:
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:22 PM
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42. prepare to be ripped to shreds |
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And glad to have you onboard :)
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:23 PM
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43. can you see McCain bringing up Reagan policies in a debate? how will Obama respond? by... |
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nodding his head in agreement....because really that is all he can do after praising Reagan as one of the greastest.
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Fri Feb-08-08 12:14 AM
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81. Another red herring thrown out |
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by a hilary..cause they have nothing.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:23 PM
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44. "A cult is a religion with no political power.” Thomas Wolfe |
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:28 PM
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It's like watching the Magnificient Seven when Yul Brenner arrives.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:32 PM
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I voted for Obama Tuesday in the California Primary for much the same reasons .
:hi:
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:35 PM
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49. Yupper, me too. Idaho went for Obama 4 to 1. Guess we had a landslide here. |
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It was amazing - largest turnout for the Democratic caucuses evah!
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:43 PM
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79. Wasn't it great being surrounded by 6,500 like-minded Democratic Idahoans? |
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They are saying that next time around there will be more, smaller caucuses, but I really enjoyed the festive atmosphere: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4426266&mesg_id=4426266
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Fri Feb-08-08 01:07 PM
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98. It was odd that was for sure, like when we won the Fiesta Bowl last year. |
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It just doesn't happen often enough, though.
LoL
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101. As incredible as the Fiesta Bowl win was, (and I bleed blue and orange) |
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I'd give up a BSU bowl win for a Democratic sweep here in November, just for once.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:41 PM
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52. Saffron robe fitting at 11:30 AM, Will |
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I'll meet you at Tom, Kate, & Suri's afterward.
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Thu Feb-07-08 07:53 PM
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54. Did it feel good to vote for him? |
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Your reasons are very logical, but did you feel the HOPE?
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:45 PM
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58. Who Do You Think Will Be Swifter, Stronger And More Mentally Ready To Ward Off The Attack Machine? |
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To me, it's not about the war or any other policy. Who will win, will be who is best prepared mentally, tactically and willfully to defend against and counter attack in response to the RW attack machine. I think Obama may hold his own to some degree, but at some point may find himself flustered and vulnerable. I think Hillary is absolutely stronger than he is in that arena, and will skillfully not only deflect the attacks, but also turn them against her opponent in such a way to give her strategical advantage. I'm convinced this trait as it relates to the GE is the one most vital trait our candidate needs to have, and I think Hillary absolutely wins out in that category.
Do you think Obama would be better than her in that regard? Or do you think that trait isn't really as important as I'm making it? I'm curious your as to your opinion on that.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:49 PM
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60. I've never been in a cult, either, but it's great to see I have lots of company. N/T |
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:21 PM
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64. I anxiously await your conversion testimonial. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:23 PM
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65. Are you a proud "cultist"? Or did you just jump on the "bandwagon"? |
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At any rate, enjoy! Go "HOPE AND CHANGE!" It's all a crap shoot!
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:31 PM
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69. To all your questions. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:27 PM
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66. My inner debate goes back and forth about who'd be better in the GE. |
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I don't buy the idea that Clinton vs. McCain "takes the war pretty much off the table." Their proposals are diametrically opposite, and Obama's voting record is the same as Clinton since he's been in the Senate.
I see his appeal (at least prior to RNC and PAC attacks) as his plus; if he can drive more voters to the polls, that's important. Clinton's plus is her sense of strength on policy -- and on matters of foreign policy in general and 'security' in particular.
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:48 PM
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71. I'm a cultist also.... and so is my wife and so are my college-aged children |
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.....we all voted for Obama.
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:57 PM
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72. Good logical decision making there |
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We are all struggling with trying to determine (assuming they are nearly identical on issues - which I agree with you on)
1) Who will be the better President - i.e. can get things done (you didn't address this)
2) Who can actually get elected so that 1) even applies.
We could have circular arguments 100 posts deep and still be no closer to agreement.
I respect your choice - at least you didn't say "GOBAMA!" :D
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:01 PM
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73. Yes you are. WillPitt, I am amazed and saddened. nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:21 PM
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74. I voted for Hillary, but I want them both! Clinton/Obama 2008! nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:23 PM
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75. Welcome, must warn you, its addictive eom |
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:24 PM
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76. yes you are, amazed and disgusted. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:31 PM
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77. From one cult member to another |
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Fri Feb-08-08 12:03 AM
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80. If Will Pitt can join |
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I quess it's time for me and Hubby to sign up. Never been in a cult, as long as we don't have to wear the Mormon uniform.
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Fri Feb-08-08 12:16 AM
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82. Thank you, for voting for Obama |
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in the Massachusetts primary! I voted for Obama in the New York primary.
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Fri Feb-08-08 01:44 AM
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Congratulations, and best of luck. :toast:
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:58 AM
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85. If that's supposed to be a confession, I guess we'll forgive you. |
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Fri Feb-08-08 04:43 AM
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86. Well, gawrsh, now that Nance & BillPitt voted for the big "O" I might as well join the crowd |
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NOT! I'm disappointed in both of you. Not for your choice of candidate, but for your need to proclaim your choice and jump on the bandwagon. I'm somehow expected something different from you.
Guess you're just human like the rest of us mortals.
Oh well. Another bubble burst. My last illusion dissolved. Nance... YOU surprised me the most. You have always been my hero. No more. It just doesn't matter anymore I guess.
No more DU heroes for me. You were my last two.
Please pass the kool-aid.
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Sat Feb-09-08 01:28 AM
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109. "My last illusion dissolved." |
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If that's true, you reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally need to get out more.
Never been anyone's last illusion before.
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Wow. This place is awesome.
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Fri Feb-08-08 04:46 AM
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87. k...no k&r here though... |
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Fri Feb-08-08 05:44 AM
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89. Uh oh. You're another one of them kool-aid drinking cultists. |
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Fri Feb-08-08 08:14 AM
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91. I am from Mass and voted for Clinton |
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I feel the same way as you. Both are good candidates. I will be happy for and work for whomever gets the Nom.
The only place we part ways is that I believe Obama would be leveled in the GE. I just think Hillary is stronger and wiser. She knows the enemy and how to combat them.
I think the terrific field of candidates we had this year says alot. Makes me very proud to be a Dem.
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Fri Feb-08-08 09:08 AM
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92. We are going to hear him speak |
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Today at the Key Arena in Seattle. We will be accompanied by a Japanese friend, a Hiroshima survivor.
My husband and I will caucus tomorrow.
GOBAMA!
Cult ure Club!
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Fri Feb-08-08 09:14 AM
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93. You think too much to be a cultist!!! |
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After years of reading your posts, and after meeting you once a few years back, I see you as least likely to join a cult. But as passionate and excited about Obama--as many of us are--I can see where some people get uncomfortable.
You are definitely a person who thinks deeply before they leap. To see you come out for Obama makes a lot of us very happy!
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:20 PM
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99. As a rule, too much thinking creates the paralysis of analysis. |
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Often we know from what the rest of our body tells us if something is a good thing or just so-so.
That adrenalin rush and rest of our emotions more often put us in places where our thinking brains might have been too slow to act. Good or bad that is how we are wired.
I can attest from the years here that WilliamPitt has occasionally acted and posted on emotion but i am quite sure he is not coming from that place with his original post here.
That cold killer instinct is an emotion that is devoid of all others for the other side of that coin.
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94. "CULT" is Penn's rovian term for momentum. |
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Fri Feb-08-08 12:53 PM
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95. McCain will lose many Indies and RWers who listen to Rush. |
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I'm not sure who Obama would lose. :shrug: Anyone who would not vote for Obama, likely wouldn't vote Dem anyway.
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Fri Feb-08-08 12:53 PM
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96. did you get your cult packet in the mail yet Will? |
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:22 PM
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100. Your decoder ring is in the mail. |
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Very glad to hear of your choice, Will!
Working my ass off for Obama in Ohio, Jennifer
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and was DAMNED proud doing it!
never.felt.better.
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107. You remember. Well done, sir. nt |
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