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Thu Feb-07-08 08:18 PM
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Obama has won 16 states to the Clintons' 11. |
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After Saturday's contests in LA, NE. and WA he will have won 19 to the Clintons' 11, almost double.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:18 PM
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1. We can't get too cocky. |
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He could lose one of those states. I think he'll lose Maine.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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5. Maine is on Sunday. I was speaking of Saturday. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:23 PM
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29. Re-read the Constitution, Funkmaster |
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In matters of foreign policy and the appointment of federal judges, land does matter.
Not to mention the fact that for the last 7 years we've had a leader of the free world who's dumber than dirt.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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38. I've read it, buckmaster. |
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Land doesn't vote.
And the constitution is entirely silent on political primaries.
But the fact remains, more PEOPLE have voted for Clinton than for Obama.
Unless you're being sarcastic, then :P
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:19 PM
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Clinton has won more human voters. Land masses don't count. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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8. Barely, and not for long. nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:21 PM
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20. Land counts in the GE |
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Can Hillary compete in those lands ?
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:31 PM
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56. Will Obama win Wyoming come fall? NT |
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:56 PM
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87. No; population does. Check the Electoral College. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:22 PM
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24. But only in the lead by the super-delegates she can bribe. Billary is very effective in secret deal |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:19 PM
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3. Are there polls saying Obama will win WA? NT |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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Not that we need one..... nobody around here likes Hillary. (With the possible exception of Maria Cantwell's staff)
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:21 PM
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19. There are, something like 55 - 41 |
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And there's no real reason to think the northwest will go to Clinton. I just worry because Murray and Cantwell endorsed her and have a built-in organization.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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4. She has only won 6 states? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:21 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:24 PM
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34. New York and California are two of them |
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It's not a small accomplishment
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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6. Facts I tell you. Mere facts. I oppose those facts and replace them with my own opinion |
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Yeah, let's see the story after Saturday. This is Obama's month.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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7. I think your counting is off |
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I count NH, NV, CA, AZ, OK, AR, TN, MA, NJ, NY and I suspect I'm missing a few.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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9. I Hope You're Not A Math Teacher |
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New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, Michigan, California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Arkansas, New Mexico, and Arizona...
Twelve
You should call yourself SpecialEdStudentGuy...
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:22 PM
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22. he once made some post highlighting the fact that he is an "english teacher"... |
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with half the words spelled wrong.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:31 PM
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cough (depends on what the meaning of "or" is) cough
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:39 PM
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83. Hey, I'm not an english teacher |
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85. Just a quote changer. nt |
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86. Then why shouldn't I talk about Calguy being an english teacher? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 11:35 PM
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Just letting you know that some people here know what kind of person you are.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:39 PM
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64. My Guess Is Phys Ed Or Industrial Arts |
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:40 PM
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:23 PM
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26. michigan and florida? does`t count |
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new mexico is being recounted. that makes 9 or 10
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:24 PM
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Ten is only equal to six if you're a Spec Ed student....
See post nine...
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:44 PM
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68. i just read where they are going to recount every ballot...? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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37. Florida, Michigan ... Hillary's snakes just can't get over the fact that they don't count. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:30 PM
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54. I'm Not A Snake, Idiot |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:27 PM
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45. Isn't it amazing that people |
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post stuff that is SO easy to debunk?
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:28 PM
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50. That's actually 13 ;) |
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59. I Never Claimed To Be DemocraticMathGuy |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:20 PM
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10. Let's not count our chickens before they hatch |
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Remember New Hampshire. There are also a lot of bonehead pollsters out there.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:21 PM
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I thought that she won 8 or 9 states on Tuesday alone?
I saw this stat on Obama's website, but I don't get it.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:21 PM
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AR, AZ, CA, MA, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NY, OK, TN
Am I missing something? Even if you throw out the "ties" its more than 6.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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36. plus Missouri was a tie,, if you wanna play the delgate shit |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:35 PM
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58. Notice How Team Hillary Took The Missouri Tie With Grace And Didn't Piss And Moan For A Recount |
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73. Did you see their speeches on Tuesday night? |
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Hillary was classy and Obama was combative.
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:24 PM
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80. yes, Hill talked policy and Obama dissed Hil |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:28 PM
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51. Ok you fixed one...now 16? |
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IA, SC, AL, AK, CO, CT, DE, GA, ID, IL, KS, MN, MO, ND, UT
I've got 15.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:21 PM
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15. "Hey, my guy got the states with 12 people in 'em". |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:22 PM
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23. After The 00 Election Freepers Would Show A Map That Was Mostly Red |
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That's because the most densely populated areas vote Democratic...
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:26 PM
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43. Indeed. It was lame then too. NT |
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16. I count 8 or 9 on Tuesday alone for Hillary plus 4 others. |
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17. Thanks for finding the most superficial take possible on the shallow horserace view of it. |
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Your point conveniently ignores the fact that she beat us in the two largest states that have voted so far. Winning California wasn't a fluke, it was the sign of a competant politician with a wide appeal outhustling our candidate.
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NH Nevada NY California NJ Massachussets American Samoa Arizona Arkansas Tennessee Oklahoma Florida Michigan and more than likely New Mexico
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25. Michigan and Florida don't count. No one campaigned there. nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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That was their dumbass fault |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:27 PM
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46. Yeah, what's the point of being ethical... |
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..and honoring pledges that you've signed?
Chumps indeed.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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40. Other candidates were on the ballot |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:28 PM
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49. Just not the other candidates people were interested in voting for....n/t |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:29 PM
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52. Clinton was the only name on the MI ballot? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:37 PM
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61. The only name of the top three candidates people were interested in voting for... |
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Yeah.
Would you like to bet?
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"Nobody else was even on the ballot in Michigan, fuck."
That is wrong. A rational person would just admit it, instead of changing the argument when it's so goddamn easy to copy and paste exactly what you wrote. It makes you look like an idiot.
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It's my freaking state. I know who was on the ballot there. It's pretty obvious what I meant.
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:00 PM
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77. so "nobody else was even on the ballot" |
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means other people were on the ballot. Gotcha.
I didn't realize the language barrier was so distinct in Michigan.
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78. Yeah. You're pretty clever. |
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62. Edwards and Obama were not on. I think thats what she means. nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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39. Sorry, but you can't win a game no one played in. nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:23 PM
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28. 1. American Samoa is not a state... |
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2.Florida and Michigan don't count
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30. blah blah blah, you tell that to the voters chump |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:26 PM
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42. You mean the voters who had to chose between Clinton or Uncommitted? |
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Oh yeah, that's a real election.
Hey, if Hillary gets elected, maybe she can make all the elections that way. She'll get 100% of the vote and can stay President forever!
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:22 PM
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21. It's not states..it's dele-gates |
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27. Where are people getting this idea that Louisiana is a given for Obama? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:24 PM
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33. I don't see that one either |
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Saturday could be a huge disappointment. I hope there is a good ground team out there. :scared:
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88. Louisiana's population is over 30% African-American, |
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which means at least 40% of Democratic voters, maybe 50%. If the AA vote breaks for Obama like it has in other southern states, Clinton has no shot.
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Nevada, New Hampshire, California, Massachussetts, Arizona, New York, New Jersey, Tennessee, Arkansas and Oklahoma add up to six?
Let's hope you don't teach algebra.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:24 PM
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35. CA counts for a lot more the Idaho, Utah, North Dakota, Delaware, and Connecticut combined. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:29 PM
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53. just NYCity voters alone equal the combined voters of 11 middle states combined too |
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57. and dont make me point out North dakota..... |
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That Obama can win that caucus with 65% and only get 8 delegates to Hillary's 5.
or Alaska which looks like 400 people participated in.
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65. I think Alaska was some convention-style thing? |
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I read somewhere today that it was excluded from popular vote totals of all the Super Tuesday states because it wasn't the same.
Though I would think that would apply to caucuses vs. primaries too.
I've seen some Alaskans on DU...
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:25 PM
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41. oops ....to bad acreage doesn't vote |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:27 PM
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44. while it might be a morale boost for mr. obama |
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it's not a contest of who can win more states or even more overall votes. the delegate count is what matters, and then only as a demonstration of momentum and electability for the superdelegates.
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47. Those states are mostly small and |
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they are mostly caucus states. He is not doing very well in real primary. So called wide margin wins are mostly caucus states. Cult members can do very well in caucus, most of them even don't have to work unlike Clinton supporters.
On the whole, there are more Hillary support than Obama supporter.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:28 PM
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48. 6 of his Super Tuesday wins were red state caucuses. |
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He demonstrated no ability to appeal to mainstream Democrats.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:37 PM
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60. It seems like a lot of Hillary's states touch New York or Arkansas too |
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Though she did do OK in the Southwest.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:39 PM
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63. HOOT--a zillion Obamababy posts YELLED that is the delegates that counted HOOT |
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That's NOT today's talking point!
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:46 PM
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69. Obama loses a state... |
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...and y'all are quick to remind everyone: It's the number of delegates that counts.
Clinton wins more delegates, and all of a sudden it's the number of states that counts.
It is hard to keep up with the constantly-shifting goalposts, but at least this one's clear.
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Obamanation is going to shift the goal post to favor their show pony. I promise you that if the Superdelegates go for Obama in a tight race, the Obambots who have decried them will suddenly do an about face.
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Btw, love that endorsement in your sig line. You know, I always believed in the NY Post a lot more than that silly RFK, Jr. ;)
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75. It was the "prize" endorsement of the primary season. |
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I was sincerely happy for Obama that he got it! :D
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:27 PM
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82. yeah--Obama babies do the flip flop real well |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:59 PM
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76. Too bad some of them are "empty" of people. loll |
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Seriously, More people voted for Clinton! NY, CA and NJ alone probably have more votes than most of Obama's wins. You do the math if you want to refute that. I can't be bothered. I seem to remember she got about 1 M more votes or maybe that was 100K... who knows. After Saturday... she will probably still have more total votes. Wait till after Texas and PA and come back and we'll talk about it. Deal?
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