Stuckinthebush
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:21 PM
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What I've learned from DU |
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Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:50 PM by Stuckinthebush
I'm a concerned voter. I'm a Democrat. I have been coming to DU daily since February of 2001 as a place where progressives meet and discuss issues and politics.
I have enjoyed my seven years in this fine community and anticipate that I will enjoy many more.
In terms of elections, I come to DU to understand the intricate policy differences between candidates. I come here to engage in intellectual discussions that are enlightening, thought provoking, and supportive. I value the quality time I spend here and thank Skinner and the gang for providing this forum.
Based on viewing the conversations here the past few months, here is my take on the two front runners in the Democratic primary:
Hillary Clinton is a power hungry politician who can't make it on her own without the help of her husband. She is a liar and closet conservative. She voted to put troops on the ground in Iraq and since she will never apologize for this she is not fit to be the President. She will be overly hawkish because she will feel that she needs to rattle the sabers in order to prove her ability to be a fighter when necessary. She has a annoying laugh and is a racist. She will make a terrible president because she doesn't really care about you and me, she just cares about power. She is really in league with the Joe Lieberman's of the world and is a DLC water carrier. Progressives can't trust her. She can't win in the South because the south hates her for her coldness and the fact that she is a woman. If she is the nominee then the Democrats will surely lose the General Election because everyone hates her. If I don't vote for her, however, then I'm a misogynist and Hillary-Hater.
Barack Obama is a fake progressive who has a piss poor plan to provide Universal Health Care. Hell, he only wants to cover 80% of Americans in his plan. He is too green to be trusted with the reigns of power. He has never voted for anything in his political life choosing to vote "present" all of the time. He has a cozy relationship with some shady people. He is too connected to corporations and will never push to enact legislation that will hurt his corporate masters. His followers are cult-like and Obamanics. He tries to be JFK but he's no JFK! He keeps a messy desk. He wants to talk with our enemies instead of blowing the crap out of them. His only allure is that he is a black man. He has limited plans with limited specifics. All he is running on is the word "Change". If I don't support him then it is because I'm a white man and a racist. He's unfit to be the president because of his lack of experience. If he wins the nomination then he will never carry a southern state because he is African-American. He's just a "feel good" candidate.
So....based on what I have learned here I have decided to support neither of these candidates and write in my mother. She's absolutely wonderful.
-sarcasm off -
Now, if you over the top Clinton supporters and over the top Obama supporters don't cut it out, then you will be sent to your virtual rooms without virtual dinner!
Damn it people! Cut the crap out and stop staring at your navels long enough to realize that what you are doing is highly destructive!
Thankfully, I know that the majority of DUers are as sick as I am at seeing the poo being thrown around the monkey cage here. We also know that there are a minority of DUers who are engaging in the foolishness.
Act like adults! Act like progressives! Act like critical thinkers who can engage in debate without name calling!
Damn it to hell....
Now go to your rooms.
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:22 PM
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Stuckinthebush
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:24 PM
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3. I don't know...my mom is nicer |
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:23 PM
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2. But the posts about real stuff seem to die on the vine |
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:25 PM
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4. I guess poo throwing is much more fun |
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That says to me that elections are about personalities and rah-rah football-like thinking.
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:31 PM
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8. No one has the time to discuss substantive questions... |
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Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:32 PM by kentuck
We are all too busy posting our snide remarks about the Obama "cult" or the Hillary haters.
On edit, I think we should return to the past requirement of a minimum of at least three full sentences in every post. That might slow them down for a few seconds anyway. :-)
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:37 PM
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12. Well, you made your three this time |
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:36 PM
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I kicked and recommended it. I try to post at every thread of substance that I find in GD-P because this IS the real stuff we should be concerned with.
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:27 PM
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:27 PM
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6. I could not have said that better myself. |
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I wish it was over. Thanks for your post! It was awesome. :hi:
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:29 PM
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I just saw one too many of "those" posts today and had to let it out.
Thanks.
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:36 PM
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11. When I logged on after work today.... |
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I was shocked to see several posts in GD-Primaries that mentioned....I can not even say her name out loud.....Her initials are M.L. and it was mentioned by Clinton haters. Dear God. I thought we were on the same team. The team named Democrats. I feel heartbroken after I saw that today. What have we become?
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:47 PM
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Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:51 PM by Stuckinthebush
we have become what we despise.
Sad, huh?
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:33 PM
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9. Time out is called for, I think |
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We need to address the serious concerns facing us.
I challenge every Clinton and Obama supporter who have only posted flamebait type threads to post a thoughtful thread on the ISSUES and how we can get across to independents where your candidate stands on them. Give us some tools to use to convince folks out there to vote Democratic. List some things we can say about McCain we can use to convince a person not to vote for him. And, finally, take a look at GENUINE concerns about YOUR candidate and tell us how to address those concerns when we are talking to people we're trying to convince to vote.
We need the independent voters to win a big victory in November. Spend some time thinking about how we can make sure they go Democratic.
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Fri Feb-08-08 02:42 PM
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Wouldn't it be nice if we spent a fraction of the time tearing up McCain as we did our own Democrats?
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Fri Feb-08-08 03:02 PM
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15. I love it..GREAT post! n/t |
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Fri Feb-08-08 03:17 PM
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16. You've convinced me. I wanna vote for your mom, too! |
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Great post. Thanks!
O would some power the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us.
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Fri Feb-08-08 03:17 PM
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Fri Feb-08-08 03:19 PM
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18. Sorry, meant to reply to the OP |
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Fri Feb-08-08 03:26 PM
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19. Oh come now, mine was MUCH better! n/t |
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