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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:59 PM Original message |
CALIF: "The scale of disenfranchisement is huge – 94,500 of 189,000 decline-to-state votes." |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. This does not bode well for the future. More people register as Independent these days |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. But in this case you didn't have to REGISTER |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Are you sure about that? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. Here we go: "You must register to vote by the 15th day before an election |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Regardless of the Clinton or not association - are they going to do something about this? |
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REDFISHBLUEFISH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Florida is COMPLETELY disenfranchised, yet you protest this? PATHETIC! |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. If FL voters were permitted to vote, they were not disenfranchised. |
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seybor (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Totally illogical - If you held mock elections in your basement |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. If they didn't vote, what was Hilly bragging about? |
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seybor (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Huh? My point is that voting empowerment |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. There may have been disenfranchisement in FL, |
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seybor (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. OK, captain paranoid |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. This was clearly a ballot problem, not voter error. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why are non partisan voters helping pick the parties' candidates? |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. agree. Who cares if they don't count |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. To get candidates who represent the country |
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sidwill (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. Will they actually count? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. They're going to "look at" the situation |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I think this needs CLARIFICATION |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Election rights groups are talking about litigation. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. Considering that independents are much more likely to vote for Obama |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Ah... but Clinton won more of the independents in CA /nt |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:05 PM Original message |
I couldn't care less if non Democratic voters don't count in Democratic primaries |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. Even if they're voting for Hillary? |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. they probably are, she won more indys. I don't care. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. And, here unenrolled voters are not permitted to vote in the primary at all. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I think California voters have to be registered in advance to vote, |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. I'm sure you're right. Different states have different names for "unenrolled" voters, |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. gee it could be people who cannot read a ballot? nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. Uncounted ballots in New Mexico |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. What a shitty little comment there, at the end--smooth and sleazy move. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. "looking at" ballots is not a recount. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. If this has been going on since 2004, you'd think SOMEONE would have mentioned it BEFORE NOW |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. County election officials DID know. That's the smoking gun. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. SNEAKY? Once is sneaky. Twice is mean. Three times is VOTER APATHY. |
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seybor (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. Thank you for bringing in that last paragraph |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Are you crying and outraged by the disenfranchisement of 1.5 million voters |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. They weren't disenfranchised if they voted. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. If they are not counted they are disenfranchised. It will be rectified |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. They were counted. Remember Hilly's "victory" speech? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Of course he does |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. Also the young folks didn't know about |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. You had me until the last sentence |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Because it was widely known which voters would be disenfranchised |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Got anything to back that up? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. If it's an election, and Hillary won, you have to know that there might be |
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REDFISHBLUEFISH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Like Florida? Yeah disenfranchisement! Its BAD say Obama fans,,,unless.... |
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wnslnadu21 (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. bullshit, this really doesn't disturb you? really? |
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seybor (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. I'm a Clinton supporter & it disturbs me, though |
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wnslnadu21 (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I totally agree with you, it is a state problem. |
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wnslnadu21 (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
28. It doesn't matter who is most likely to get the votes, this should disturb all of us |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. That's OUTRAGEOUS! |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
38. Rut roh. Is this getting any traction in CA? Is there any way to "retrieve" those votes? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Nevermind, found the answer to my own question. Somebody from CA please keep us posted on this. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. Get your brain in gear instead of your Clinton hate!!> |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. That's how it worked in Nevada. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. I thought they were going to manually recount those nonpartisan ballots /nt |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
54. Or, "How Clinton won California" nt |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
57. If you can't read and comprehend a simple ballot |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Wow, FLASHBACK ! That's what the Republicans said in 2000. Are you even old enough to remember that |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Not the same case |
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