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debatepro (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:09 PM Original message |
Top Hillary Supporter: Some Whites In Pennsylvania "Are Not Ready" To Support Black Candidate |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. WHY IS OBAMA PLAYING THE RACE CARD AGAIN |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
88. Polls say some will not vote for a black nor a women. What is so unusual with the OP?? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. Like Mark Penn, he's a tub of goo with a mouth. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. An observation no different |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yup, and Barack himself saying he needed to "solidify" the black vote |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Yes, such a crafty tactic. |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I have heard Michelle argue the race issue at gatherings, but those rarely get aired.. |
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DiamondJay (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. "black american will wake up" |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Um, what about Hillary asking for the women votes |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. That isn't the topic. |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Of course it is |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. it's one thing to be proud of who you are... it is another to use it to destroy & manipulate others! |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Yes, the Obamas can push race as an issue but no one else |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
85. How true. And the media stays silent they are scared of being called racist. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Exactly. |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. Oh no, |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Where has Obama, his spouse, or his surrogates argued against HRC on account of gender? |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Not a Clinton supporter |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. WRONG! The comparison would be Obama surrogates arguing that Hillary, being a WOMAN, |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Some folks say..." |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. Pathetic |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. PA politics |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I live here. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. I'll predict. I live in eastern PA. This state WILL go for Hillary, and it will have nothing to do |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
89. Nice to hear. Thanks for your post |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. are those whites "ready" to let black people vote? |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. Beats me. |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. He is only saying what a lot of people don't say but |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. But he didn't go on to say, "and there are a lot of people who won't vote for a woman," did he? nt |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. No, but if he or anyone else did, that would also be |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Right. But he wasn't repeating truisms - he was highlighting a particular candidate. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good gawd almighty, ClintonCo pulls the Race Card out of their sleeve once again. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. You can tell alot about a candidate by looking at those who speak on their behalf |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Like Big Babies for Bama who whine when something doesn't go their way. |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Sarcasm, right? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Do you think race is NOT a factor?! |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. Ed Rendell is being blunt and politically incorrect, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. "We shouldn't nominate a darkie because some of those racists |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. Clinton only gets a chance because she is a women (Obama chant for last year -but is that the gender |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. You haven't seen anything yet, wait until the GOP slaughters him in the GE, what will he do then, |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. How dare he state the obvious! |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. Good old corrupt Fast Eddie once again with foot-in-mouth disease |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. Gov. Rendell is NOT "the Clintons" |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Rendell endorsed Billary n/t |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
22. A few people I know have said the same thing. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. How is this post not racist? n/t |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He was being sarcastic |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I was indeed being sarcastic. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. Deleted message |
incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes, he was calling for blacks to be lynched |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. If you refuse to vote for someone, simply because of their level of skin pigmentation |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
66. If you refuse to read an article, simply because you're blinded by rage |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
67. Does pointinig out that they exist make you a racist? |
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crazylikafox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Your post is extremely offensive |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Excusing racism (as DLC bastard Rendell did) is extremely offensive |
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debatepro (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Now that is offensive.... |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Are you stupid? |
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debatepro (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Is this a rhetorical question? |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
84. Little confused here. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Here's a real pic with his best friend: |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Big Eddie is Jewish |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. gah |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
77. Do you know anything about arguing, gaspee? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. well gee, that was fucking stupid... |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. "You've got a friend with a pointy white hood in Pennsylvania" |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. Rendell should know about this, considering who he beat in 2006 |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
31. PA is a true swing state. |
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my2sense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
36. Speaking the Obvious |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. Like all of the Clinton's race baiting, this one was calculated to be a wedge |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Yes, and it won't work this time either. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. He's an old pal of theirs, and wouldn't have done it without their OK. |
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BlueStateGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
40. Unfortunately, it is probably true. And they probably aren't ready |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. I thought maybe that was only |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
47. I will be SO thrilled if PA becomes the racist hotbed of this race |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. sometimes my country embarrasses me........ |
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southern_dem (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
51. Some things are better left unsaid |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
61. Ah, and so the race baiting returns. And then the Clinton supporters |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
62. So some people aren't ready to support a female commander-in-chief. |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
70. I Live In One Of The Most Conservative Counties In PA... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
71. I would imagine these "conservative whites" wouldn't vote for a woman either |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
75. I'm sorry I'm just gonna say IT! |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Well - I'M just gonna say it!! |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. Nuclear $$ backs Obama..?? Rezko-Auchi-Alsammarae: power plant |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. What a really dumb set of statements |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
90. and Hillary is in it to be the first woman president...big whoopdie doo |
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adabfree (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #75 |
97. Way too much piss in your beer..lol |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
78. ed rendell says "bluntly"? Bluntly |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
79. Coming from Ed "Gore should concede" Rendell, this is no surprise. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
82. I hate to say it but it's true. |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
83. Some whites not ready for a black president? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
86. Polls say a certain percentage will not vote for a black or a woman. |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
87. whites not ready to vote for an African-American candidate are plainly RACISTS |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
91. I'm having a little trouble with this... |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
92. My parents are in Pittsburgh |
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adabfree (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Agreed |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
93. Get a clue. Whoever wins, we'll have to deal with either racism or misogyny n/t |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:36 AM Response to Original message |
94. I'm a Pennsylvanian and I want to make Fast Eddie |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
96. More race-bating from the Clinton camp |
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