Drunken Irishman
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:09 PM
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Does Clinton need to win BOTH Texas and Ohio to stay in this thing? |
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Or can she split?
I think she needs to win both and by a wide margin if she's going to stay in this thing. I think she can do well in Ohio, but I really think Obama will take Texas. What happens if Clinton wins Ohio, by 5 and loses Texas by 5?
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM
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1. She needs both in landslides. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM
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or he will squeak out with more delegates, about 150-200 more then her.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:12 PM
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4. the super delegates could break for her, |
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if they want to lose the general election. otherwise they have to side with the winner of the pledged delegates.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM
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3. I beleieve I read somwhere that some of her staff has said... |
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she has to win both and with large margins.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:13 PM
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Pennsylvania too
Big risk here for her. Not on ly does Obama have a head of steam coming into this-especially if he wins Wisconsin next week- but he gets several weeks to campaign and this guy closes gaps like nobody's business.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:13 PM
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6. She needs to win both, and at least one of them by a 15 point or larger margin |
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:13 PM
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7. She not only needs to win, she needs to win BIG |
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She wont help herself just by winning, with proportional delegates she needs lopsided wins to gain enough delegates to overcome the sweeps Obama has put together.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:15 PM
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10. She needs both by HUGE margins. |
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The supers aren't stupid, especially if they are up for election soon. If they break for HRC based on a a 2% victory in Texas, there will be hell to pay.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:14 PM
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8. Winning the states not a big deal - winning a larger share of the delegates it |
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Apparently the rules in Texas would allow for a Nevada result, where she may win the state popular vote, but get fewer delegates. Since the name of the game is delegates, a close win in one or both states may not be enough to catch up to Obama, if Obama keeps on winning by larger margins. Depending on which organization is doing to calculations, Obama either already has the lead in delegates or is close behind, and that is WITH the super-delegates factored in. He has a clear-cut lead in the non-super delegates.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:15 PM
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9. I think she needs to take both and do so handily to be able to lay claim to the nomination. |
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Unless the pledged delegates race (not includ supers) is close after OH & TX (within say 20 delegates), I think she should concede the nomination to Obama and begin laying the groundwork for her supporters and infrastructure to be added to his.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:16 PM
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11. She cannot split. Needs to win both. The media is hyping it that Obama must also sweep |
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If he splits Potomac Tuesday then he'll be vulnerable.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:19 PM
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12. After today we should have a better idea how much she needs for OH/TX |
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Granted it will be precisely accurate after Wisconsin/Hawaii, after todays expected sweep we should be able to calculate what minimum proportionate Clinton will need to even out with Obama.
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:26 PM
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13. Depends on Obama sweeping everything else. |
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If Obama sweeps nearly everything else, then she will need her big three (OH/TX/PA). Every delegate he does NOT win elsewhere is a delegate she need not win in the big three.
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