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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:47 AM
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If Zogby says that Clinton is "slightly" trailing McCain and Obama...
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 10:47 AM by Lirwin2
Then we know that in reality she's at least 30% ahead of each.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:49 AM
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1. Give zogby a check and he will have your candidate ahead..
uh huh obama folks remember california? New Hampshire?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:57 AM
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2. hmm
My view of zogby has that its always leaned a bit in our favor. He had Gore over Bush in the end of 04.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:59 AM
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3. That's Not A Pollster's Job
A pollster's job is to tell us to the best of his or her ability how people are thinking whatever the results are...
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:08 AM
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7. i woudl agree,
But zogby has a history of leaning a bit.
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:02 AM
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4. Is that the same
John 'Obama will win CA by 13%' Zogby ???

or was it 17% -- LOL.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:04 AM
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5. Also the same as...
"Obama will win New Hampshire by 15%"
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:06 AM
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6. It's actually been really funny to watch, over the last three months, the opinion of DU invert.
It used to be Obama supporters whining pathetically about how polling was wrong, or crooked, or conspiratorial, or otherwise biased in favor of Clinton. Meanwhile, Clinton supporters remained on the side of reality.

Now, of course, that the polling favors Obama, Clinton supporters are whining pathetically about how polling is wrong, or crooked, or conspiratorial, or otherwise biased in favor of Obama. And now, Obama supporters are sitting on the side of reality.

If Clinton regains the edge, I of course expect the camps to switch again.
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:11 PM
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9. I call Zogby wrong ...
well, er ... like ... he IS wrong and by many percentage points and nearly ALL the time any more ...

Don't worry -- the Z-man will continue to spin it for Obama and the rest of the republicans. The problem is ... no one believes him anymore.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:08 AM
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8. I did notice when it was a statistical tie -- 49%-48% -- she was "losing."
I think Obama was ahead of McCain by 3 points, which might still have been within the margin of error -- I don't know, since they didn't mention the margin of error at all. (This was msnbc.)

It would have been more accurate to say that all were essentially tied, as well as to mention that none have launched a general election campaign yet and it's still VERY early for those polls to be meaningful!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:12 PM
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10. Keep telling yourself that.
I understand that hope is the only thing Clinton supporters have left.
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 PM
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11. There's a big difference between
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 12:43 PM by JorgeTheGood
Hillary supporters' hope and a professional pollster that can't find his A$$ with both hands ... F*CK -- I know 3rd graders that can guess better than Zogby can poll ... LOL.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:36 PM
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12. agreed
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