So Who WILL The Clintons Support If It's Between Obama And McCain?

[SoFlaJet]

here they are today sticking up for John McCain and the republicans (again) on this public financing issue. They are using all of McCain and the GOP's talking points against Obama themselves-same as they've been doing with Obama's slogans. Do any of you put it past the power-hungry Clinton's to try and sabotage an Obama candidacy in the general election so they could try for it again in 2012? Remember who the first two senators were to come out publicly WITHIN HOURS in criticizing John Kerry on his botched Bush joke punchline...Senators McCain and Clinton-in that order. I don't put it past them after what I've been seeing from the Clintons in this primary season.

[blm]

1. Let's see - who did Clintons stick up for when it was Bush v Kerry?

Bill defending Bush PUBLICLY (summer 2004 book tour) on his Iraq decisions when Kerry was attacking those decisions:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville siding with Bush and sabotaging Ohio voters on election night:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


Hillary siding with Bush AND MCCain in 2006 against Kerry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[SoFlaJet]

8. hey blm

did you notice none of them actually answered the question I asked...I wonder who THEY will support

[MonkeyFunk]

57. They'll support Obama

just like when Bill Clinton campaigned for Kerry shortly after his heart surgery.

[OzarkDem]

9. Nasty and dishonest

You've really become a disappointment. Like some Dem Clinton haters, your lives must be miserable. Maybe you should seek counseling.

[Alexander]

12. Everything blm said was honest. Nice try, though.

Maybe you could refute what blm said if....oh, wait, never mind, you can't.

:eyes:

[OzarkDem]

14. No, it wasn't

It was distorting facts. Sad that this is all Obama's supporters have to offer. No discussion of issues, just attack, distort, divide and attack. Just like the GOP.

[blm]

41. Name ONE distortion. Were YOU cheerleading Bill's 3week defense of Bush in 2004?

Or did it piss you off as it did many of us blogging here at the time?

You think Carville was working for Democratic voters when he made that call to WH on election night?

Get a grip. Smell the coffee. Open your eyes.

[MonkeyFunk]

59. I've repeatedly explained to you why your

carville story is pure bunk. You just ignore it.

[blm]

68. One would have to take the most benign possible view of Carville's action to believe

your self-proclaimed debunk.

Some of us have seen the documentary Our Brand is Crisi and know exactly what Carville did.

You think Blackwell would have dropped the provisional ballot numbers on his own without the heads up from Carville. How SWEET and generous of you, but there is no reason to believe it was mere coincidence.

You also have nothing to say about Bill's 3 week book tour where he publicy defended Bush throughout over the same issues on his terrorism and Iraq war decisions that Kerry was attacking Bush.

You think Bill was just being sweetly naive about that timely defense of Bush?

Sell it to those who never read the BCCI report - those who have know exactly what Bill has to hide when he protects BushInc.

[MonkeyFunk]

70. No

one must take the most malevolent view in order for your story to work.

And not one single person in the Kerry campaign has ever made the claim you're making. Not one. You don't find that odd? A major Dem figure betrayed a candidate and gave the election to Bush, and nobody says a peep about it?

No, your story is a big fiction built around a handful of small facts.

[blm]

72. Kerry's been showing his disgust for Clinton betrayal for some time, now - you all are

just too arrogant to have picked up on it over the past year. Or thought you could overcome it anyway.

You also have no answer about Clinton's 3 week book tour where he repeatedly defended Bush in 2004 - as if he didn't REALIZE what he was doing at the time - at the same time backing Bush on terrorism and staying silent about Kerry's contributions in the tracking of terror networks and their funding that we know from BCCI report - the same BCCI Clinton wouldn't even mention in his book. No wonder he had nothing to say to support Kerry - he was hiding from it himself, wasn't he? Jackson Stephens and Dubai sure made it worth his while to cover that all up, didn't they?

How much did Bill bank recently from Dubai via Yucaipa? 20 MILLION?

[MonkeyFunk]

76. Yet not one Kerry supporter

or anyone involved with his campaign confirms the story you pieced together. Not one.

Not a single one. None of them. Not even Teresa, who's rather famous for making her opinion known.

[blm]

77. You fight your way - Kerry fights his WITHOUT hurting the overall party the way Clintons do

BCCI - BCCI - BCCI - focking traitors to the Dem party AND betrayer of all who care about accountability and open government.

[MonkeyFunk]

93. And yet nobody

not even his famously outspoken wife, will even privately confirm the story you've pieced together.

Why?

Because your story is a lie.

[blm]

98. That's YOUR false conclusion. I know better than you and know exactly what steps

they've been taking. You think everything happening to Hillary today is happening in a vacuum?

Just remember - Kerry was planning on running against Hillary and had a national network firmly in place. A network of quiet doers not bigmouthed talkers.

Obama is doing quite well organizationally all over the country isn't he, and has been for quite some time, hasn't he??

[Debi]

20. Yep, If a Clinton isn't on the ballot

who will the Clinton's vote for? :shrug:

[cboy4]

25. This post belongs on Free Republic and not DU,

Shame on you.

[TwilightGardener]

36. Like ridiculing John Kerry, as you did below?

[cboy4]

52. There's a difference between tough love and pure

hate wienerdoggie.

I don't compare John Kerry to the Republicans like you people with Hillary Clinton.

[TwilightGardener]

56. Well, the problem is that many of us see very cozy relations

between Hillary and Bill and folks like PNACers, the Bushes, and McCain--all the while they blame the "vast RW conspiracy" for their permanent aggrieved state of victimhood. Hillary LOVES to portray herself as always "standing up to Republicans", but...I find that's not what it seems to be. It helps her in this election, there's a lot of Dems that fall for it, but she's not the OPPOSITE of Republicans, and she's not as estranged from them or their agenda as she'd have us believe. The GOP sees her with much clearer eyes than a lot of Dems do, IMO--that the Clintons are power-hungry, and all about the Clintons, and that the Dem party is merely their vehicle to power.

[blm]

79. You can't. No one in DC has UNCOVERED more BushInc crimes than Kerry and no Dem

in DC has ever protected BushInc crimes more than Clintons have.

IranContra
BBCI
CIA drugrunning
Iraqgate


YOu side with continuing the protection of BushInc and smear and attack those who did more than anyone in DC to expose BushInc.

[blm]

39. You have no QUALM with TeamClinton 's moves against Kerry? Did you even READ the links?

Or watch them?

You think Free Republic would even COMPLAIN that Clintons helped Bush?

Try some PERSPECTIVe, cboy.

[SoFlaJet]

32. and I can see that vindictive bastard Carville

feeding little things to the McCain camp since he goes to all the republican outings with his republican wife-he IS a scumbag sorry-again, another guy who was once a hero of mine for what they did in the 90's who I have really grown to mistrust

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

37. How dare you post the truth AND provide documentation

no wonder some people are accusing you of lying, you put the truth and provided a way
to fact check it!

[Buzz cook]

69. Hey BLM how ya doin?

I know you loved Kerry and all but it's a stretch to say that the Clintons sided with Bush in 2004
They both actively campaigned for Kerry. The points you raise were mere quibbles and one of them was in 2006 a couple years too late to effect the election.
It was Kerry that didn't fight in Ohio. It was Kerry that decided to trust the media to deal honestly with the Swift boat attacks.
There's lots of blame to pass around for the 2004 election theft. But the Clintons aren't in it.

I don't think there's a question that the Clintons will support Obama.
My own opinion is that Obama will refuse that help, but if he wins the nomination that's his call.

[blm]

81. So Brinkley was lying about the backstabbing? Clinton was being naive when he

went on his 3 week book tour in 2004 and defended Bush on the very issues Kerry was attacking him?

Carville didn't KNOW the WH would call Blackwell with the information about Ohio ballots?

YOU can believe that it was all naivete on TeamClinton's part - I know they also had plenty to keep quiet regarding BCCI and DIDN'T want Kerry in the WH accessing thse documents any more than Bushes did.

You can choose to believe whatever you want - the swifts DIDN'T sink Kerry - Kerry won. And if Terry McAuliffe had secured the election process after 2000s theft, Kerry would be in the WH. But McAuliffe had no desire for Kerry or ANY Dem to win in 2004. His only focus was on Hillary2008.

Clintons protect Bushes. They always have and always will. And Robert Parry gets sliced and diced daily now because he had the nerve to connect the dots.

[Buzz cook]

92. Nice talking to you again after all these years BLM.

I think you mis-characterize Clinton's comments as a defense of Bush.

Carville is not joined at the hip with the Clinton's. It was up to Kerry to challenge in Ohio.

BCCI? are they illuminate` as well? After the Starr chamber the Clinton's went through you think the OIC left out any charges? You think there was something thing that the right wouldn't attack the Clinton's on?

Yes Kerry won the election just as Gore did. There were many straws breaking the Camels back in both cases and it's fruitless to excuse one straw. It's also dishonest to place all the blame on one.
You're ascribing incredibly toxic motives to McAuliffe. At least you've picked a real person instead of a shadowy "they"

Robert Parry and consortium news are still an important web site. I don't see him getting sliced and diced on a daily basis.Bartcop may be down on them because they've joined the chorus, but I still like them. I disagree though with Parry's coverage of the Clinton's. I don't see him connecting dots so much as taking a leap of faith.
It's a similar, if smaller, leap to what the 9/11 truthers have taken.

You have an up hill battle BLM buddy. Considering how many lies have been told against the Clintons by both people on the right and on the left; I can't see you swaying any Clinton supporters with charges that require them to be traitors to the nation.

[blm]

97. Whitewater was a DOG AND PONY SHOW - Bushies used it to get into Rose Law Firm

where the biggest client was JACKSON STEPHENS - the man who brought BCCI into this country. You think THOSE files didn't need a thorough scrubbing considering his decades of dealings with GHWBush and BCCI?

You think Starr would have let ALL those matters of Stephens' lengthy relationship with Clinton go by if Stephens hadn't been heavily linked with Poppy Bush for decades? But you didn't hear much about Stephens's files at Rose did you?

Get real - this is not about illuminati - BCCI is STILL as real as it gets and Sibel Edmonds can attest to its continuing agenda.

You care to SHOW me using Bill's book what he chose to DO with all the outstanding matters of BCCI, buzz? Did you even KNOW that Jackson Stephens and Marc Rich were named figures in BCCI? And that Rich was also named in IranContra? If you think Poppy Bush was hiding criminality by pardoning IranContra figures, what was 'naive' Bill Clinton doing when he pardoned one?

Your problem is that you believe everything that RW machine was throwing at the time were simply attacks on Clintons, when after reading Clinton's book and hearing of the undermining of Gore and Kerry, I know BushInc was just using those trumped up attacks to obscure the deep-sixing of all the outstanding matters in IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI and CIA drugrunning.

Hey - didn't Bart have an analysis a long time ago that basically had the powerstructure going to Poppy Bush and telling him to take a dive on 92, because after Kerry's BCCI report was released in Dec 1992, Poppy would be impeached and all the BCCI matters would be dragged into the public square?

Jackson Stephens had Poppy's ass covered with his boy in Arkansas - he bankrolled Bill's political career and his primary campaign for exactly that type of moment.

If Bill wasn't put there to cooperate with Poppy and Stephens and Dubai, buzz, please tell us what he DID DO with that report and its outstanding matters including accountability for Stephens, Poppy, Marc Rich, and many others?

[uppityperson]

2. Nader.

:shrug:

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[tyne]

7. I had forgotten

that Hillary decided to not believe that Kerry was joking....when he clearly was.

[sniffa]

4. Half-heartedly support Obama

similar to the support given Kerry in 2004.

[ShortnFiery]

16. Bingo sniffa! "Half-heartedly support [for] Obama similar to the support given Kerry in 2004."

That's also my prediction. :hi:

[Debi]

24. And Gore in 2000 n/t

[Metric System]

5. "They are using all of McCain and the GOP's talking points against Obama"

Why does this sound familiar? Oh, yeah! Hillary Clinton is divisive and unelectable...Harry and Louise-style attack ads against health care...

More in this article:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/16/5118/80393

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Same tepid support they gave Kerry. nt.

[SoFlaJet]

11. you know what Warren

in retrospect maybe all those RWers who have been wailing for the past 15 years about The Clintons were right all along-maybe we were wrong in defending them for so long. They are showing themselves to be soulless creatures to this democrat and former fan and defender

[Metric System]

17. Tha't right! Clintons- bad. Bushes- good. Why am I not surprised an Obamaniac is adopting RW views?

[Warren Stupidity]

31. I so did not get that from the post you responded to.

I must have a reading comprehension problem.

[blm]

88. Bushes and Clintons are on the same side against Open Government Democrats they fear.

Which is why they NEED Hillary to get them back in the WH to continue the protection of BushInc.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[Frances]

13. I support BOTH Hillary and Obama

and will happily vote for whichever is the nominee in the general.

I would argue that the Clintons will support Obama if he wins to exactly the same degree that Obama will support Hillary if she is the nominee.

[Warren Stupidity]

15. On a practical level I think not.

Obama is much younger than Clinton and could afford to fully support a Clinton presidency while looking forward to a 2016 campaign. Clinton can't. From a completely selfish viewpoint it is in her best interest for Obama to lose so that she gets one more shot in 2012.

[Debi]

27. Like she did for Kerry and Gore n/t

[Frances]

67. I think Hillary did everything those 2 candidates would let her do

[blm]

84. They didn't ask for her man Carville to sabotage Ohio voters did they?

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

They didn't ask Bill to spend his 3 week book tour repeatedly defending Bush on the very issues Kerry was attacking him, did they?


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

[Frances]

66. I think this will be Hillary's last run for the presidency

I don't think she will try again, no matter who wins in 2008.

I don't think Obama will do any more for Hillary than she for him.

[SoFlaJet]

19. I'm not talking about you Fran

I'm asking who will the Clintons, Bill and Hillary support in the election if it's not her on the ticket-it's a serious question because they have been showing lately that they care about one thing and one thing only POWER-at any cost...

[Unbowed]

23. Exactly.

There will be schedule conflicts, of course.

[cboy4]

29. Did someone say John Kerry?

[TwilightGardener]

34. Yeah, that crazy windsurfer. What a silly pasttime. Did you know Hillary shot ducks?

She wants you to suddenly know this, as of yesterday.

[bunnies]

38. She shoots ducks???

For real?!

[TwilightGardener]

42. Yep, someone posted this yesterday--she decided to reveal

that her dad took her hunting as a kid--pander pander pander.

[cboy4]

44. You mean like Senator Kerry?

:eyes:

[TwilightGardener]

48. It worked so well for him, that Hillary had to jump on that same "I love guns!" wagon--

if it was stupid for him, it's even stupider for her. Hope there's no photo op in the offing.

[blm]

85. Yeah stupid of Kerry, an EXPERT marksman and 50 yr hunter to pick up a gun...or

did the media who already KNEW he hunted his entire life choose to PRETEND Kerry was just playing a hunter for the cameras, as part of their effort to protect Bush?

You want to side with corpmedia LIES, cboy, then that shows YOUR level of integrity, doesn't it?

[blm]

43. Kerry's an expert windsurfer and cboy thinks that makes for a bad patriot.

Do you complain about his uncovering of IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning, too? I know Bill Clinton had no respect for those investigations. I see you side with Bill and Bushes on that.

[cboy4]

49. No, I think when you're being swiftboated, you

should be fighting back rather than taking to the water.

[Warren Stupidity]

55. Ironically the windsurfing attack was the other major

rightwing smear against Kerry - the 'flip flopper' - and was independent of the switftboat attack.

[cboy4]

62. What does that have to do with my point?

I don't control what they say.

[blm]

64. You fight the lie or enable it. THAT should be the ONLY point.

It was a Dem MACHINE that didn't perform, the DNC, other Dem lawmakers and the microscopic left media.

You think Bush fought his own battles? Kerry beat the crap out of Bush decisively in EVERY matchup. How did the DNC do up against the RNC? How did left media do against the RW message machine?

Think about it.

[blm]

63. Check the actual timeline of your charges, sunshine.

.

[TwilightGardener]

10. They want control of the party. They won't help him win in November, if they can help it.

If Obama loses to McCain, Bill is still the King, as the last successful Dem Prez, and Hillary is still the Queen-in-Waiting--they may not have gotten back into power, but their legacy and their grasp on the party would be intact.

[Unbowed]

18. Oh they'll support the nominee of the Democratic Party...

with much the same enthusiasm they supported John Kerry in 2004 (just enough so as not to look like bad Democrats and get their asses in a sling with the Democratic Party). There IS always 2012, you see.

Bottom line for me is which candidate puts the welfare of the country before personal ambition. I believe Senator Obama is running because he believes he can unite the party and help our country. Sad to say, I think there is a lot of personal ambition behind HRC's run. For Obama, it's a calling not a career move.

[JohnnyLib2]

21. Gooood Lord. You are talking about a Democratic 2 term president,

a Democratic 2 term Senator and so forth. Why the fearful demonization?
Both have been working Ds for 3 decades or more; both have raised millions for the party. Support others if you will and certainly vote for others, but please let's keep a little perspective.

They will support our nominee, probably not to the satisfaction of all if it is not Hillary. Sheeeesh!

--JL2, shaking his head

[burythehatchet]

28. JL2, I believe it is our adherence to party labels that is killing our cause.

It makes our analysis less intensive as we defer to party identification. Zell Miller was Democrat. As was Joe Lieberman. Ben Nelson calls himself a Democrat. As does Mark Pryor.

[TwilightGardener]

33. The Clintons' motto: "La partie, c'est nous".

[Metric System]

22. Why would Obama want Hillary's support anyway? He says she's divisive so you'd think he'd want to

distance himself from her. Make up your minds ObamaNation!

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. Let's find out who MICHELLE OBAMA will work to support first, shall we?

I've never voted for a REPUKE in my life. How about you? Have YOU?

[IndianaGreen]

30. They will do to Obama what they did to Kerry in '04

The Clintons have never shown a shred of scruples.

[blm]

46. It can't work for them again - too many Dems now know what they did to Gore and Kerry

THAT is what is making the difference, and why Clinton camp is imploding, too.

[Buzz cook]

74. Now that's sad

nt

[Caro]

35. So Who WILL Obama Support If It's Between Clinton And McCain?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

[CatnHat]

40. I know

people already who will actually "sit this one out" on a Obama/McCain ticket. As for myself, after this election is over, I am switching to independent. I have a feeling that many will do the same thing.

[high density]

45. You could say the same exact thing about a Clinton vs. McCain race

My Democratic caucus was full of independents changing their registration to Democrat so they could vote for Obama. This hyperbole from both sides is tiring...

[CatnHat]

54. But, one aspect

you fail to recognize is the fact many will "sit this one out". By the way, the people I know who are "sitting this one out" if it's an Obama/McCain ticket; are Clinton supporters. And I'll tell you why, believe it or not, Clinton supporters "feel" as strongly about her, as you do about Obama. Get used to it; it's down the middle; with no end in sight. Many have switched to Clinton also, no matter how much you wish and hope, that's the reality of politics.

[thoughtcrime1984]

71. If you want McCain, then you deserve him. nt

[high density]

83. The flamers/crybabies on this forum are the only ones I've seen threatening to sit anything out

I support Obama but I will vote for Clinton in November if that's how it plays out. I hope and expect a great deal of my fellow Obama supporters would do the same, and likewise for the Clinton supporters should Obama get the nomination. Those that don't support the Democrat evidently want McCain to be president, and I don't think that would be good for anybody.

[robbedvoter]

53. I am about to. But will vote democratic in November - whatever that will entail

[Evergreen Emerald]

47. Wait. Clinton has already said she would support the Dem Nominee--Obamas have said they do not know

What a dishonest thread.

[LordJFT]

50. Actually Barack said he would and Hillary said she would before and her support for Kerry was only

lukewarm. So what a dishonest post of yours.

[SoFlaJet]

51. yea but we all know they have a credibility issue

when it comes to a "pledge" and doing the opposite-so yea this thread IS about dishonesty

[Evergreen Emerald]

58. oh that's right...Obama's lies are forgiven on this board

I keep forgetting we are through-the-looking-glass where Obama's lies are not lies

[Warren Stupidity]

60. Got a link for that?

"Obamas have said they do not know" - please back that up.

[SoFlaJet]

61. At this point from and what I've seen from the Clintons

I just don't trust these people anymore-I USED to, but not anymore. I can see them doing everything in their power to sabotage an Obama General Election campaign against McCain-through their slimy surrogates. The question will then be; How will all these Clinton "democrats" feel about "their girl" then after it comes out? Sound paranoid or does it sound like typical Clinton politics? You make your choice on what YOU want to happen in November and live with the consequences-me? I'm choosing Barack Obama

[mondo joe]

65. Do you want them to? Since you've demonized them, it's hard to know if you

think they should or shouldn't support Obama.

[book_worm]

73. Outwardly they will support Obama but do very little just like Lamont/Lieberman in '06

[Buzz cook]

75. Pretty much sounds like you don't like the Clintons

So when did that start?

[ronnykmarshall]

78. What a load of shit.

[TheWebHead]

80. no matter who wins the other will offer luke warm support

will do very little if any stumping and will turn down any vp offer from the other. either will calculate that if mccain wins in november, they are basically anointed to be the 2012 nominee.

[rodeodance]

HEY--Obama did the finance stuff all by himself--take some responsibility !

here they are today sticking up for John McCain and the republicans (again) on this public financing issue.

[NastyRiffraff]

82. Silliest. Question. Ever. on these boards

Hillary and Bill will support Obama, if he's the nominee.

Barack will support Clinton if she's the nominee. Not sure about Michelle.

[NMMatt]

95. You obviously don't know the Clintons very well -nt

[RoadRage]

86. Politics aside, I think she's much better friends with McCain then she is with Obama.

Publicly, she will support Obama, but behind the scenes I could see her helping McCain with info her campaign learned while campagining against the Obama camp.

If Obama wins, in all liklihood he's in for 8 years.. if McCain wins, she can say "Obama couldn't beat McCain - let me have a shot at him" and run again in 4 years.

It's all politics.

[SoFlaJet]

87. So does anybody else think the Clintons-IF they lose to Obama

would pull a "Lieberman" and run as a third party candidate? Would you Clinton supporters STILL support her as an independent?

[Frances]

89. I would not support Hillary as an independent

anymore than I would support Obama as an independent.

I really don't see why someone can't be an Obama supporter without tearing down Bill Clinton's presidency.

Bill Clinton had high approval ratings from the public (polling Dems, Repubs, and independents) when he left office. His ratings were extremely high when Dems alone were polled.

So, do those same Dems that gave high approval ratings to Bill when he was in office now want to change what they felt then?

Or, do we have people posting on this board who were not Dems back in 2000, either because they were Repubs then or they were not old enough to have an opinion?

[Maddy McCall]

91. EXCELLENT POST, FRANCES.

:toast:

[NMMatt]

96. Bill Clinton was a decent president

And great president compared to the current office holder, no question. However, then, as now, I realized that they always put their own interests ahead of the good of the party and the good of the country. However, they are also not stupid.

Hillary would not run as an Independent. That would be political suicide. Publically she would endorse Obama, but probably wait until late in the game, and keep the Democratic Party polarized as long as possibly. I wouldn't expect her to do anything to help Obama. In otherwards, the Clintons will do everything they can to undermine Obama, but not in such an obvious way that it turns off the Democratic Party. Were Obama to loose (very unlikely) in November they will come out and vocally criticize Obama, his campaign, and set themselves up for another run in 2012.

[Frances]

99. And you think Obama isn't looking after his own interests?

You don't get where Obama and Hillary are without thinking about yourself. That's the price of admission.

That said, I will vote Obama OR Hillary over McCain any day of the week.

I would like to add that I think it would benefit us all to be realists about what life will be like if Obama is elected President.

There will be a hard core group of people who don't like anything he does and will do everything they can to prevent his program being enacted. That group will not include Hillary supporters.

I remember when Reagan was God, er-President. Everyone thought he was great, except a small group of us hard-core Dems.

That's just life. It wouldn't be good for everyone to agree. That would mean we were all robots.

[Maddy McCall]

90. That's the most assinine thing I've heard.

Of course they won't. They are diehard Democrats.

[NMMatt]

94. They will support whomever they perceive to be best for themselves

I'm not even sure why people would even question their basic calculation at this point. It would probably, like you say, be McCain - but not publicly, because that would hurt their chances in 2012.

[workinclasszero]

100. Lets see...two DLC big business shills...

I figure they go McCain. They are already using McCain's talking points so....