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Sun Feb-17-08 02:06 PM
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National Review front cover...praying for a HRC win in the Dem Primary |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:07 PM
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1. So why are the Republicans backing Obama? |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:16 PM
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I really think that alot of them are dazed from McCain becoming the nominee. Then others are pissed at the Bushies and want a big change too. This election isn't about just what we want, it's important that the angry/disenfrnchised Repubs get something too. They still need to figure out what they want. Hillary? Maybe, Obama says he'd reach across the aisle. Who really knows? I just have a hard time believing that they'd prefer a dem to McCain.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:25 PM
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12. Moderate Repubs are for Obama, it's the Wing-nuts that |
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are pulling for Hillary in the primaries. The Mods will still vote for Obama
in the GE, and the wingers want nothing more than the chance to vote against her in the GE.
To read this any other way, would require rose-colored glasses.
If you have another pair, I would be happy to see things your way.
:sarcasm:
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:11 PM
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21. The wingnuts that are screwed to the right support Obama. |
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When wingnuts become unscrewed they support Hillary.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:15 PM
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27. Nuts like Lincon Chafee? |
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Or the Mc Cain Advisor that refused to continue on Mc Cain's campaign because he could not in good concious work against Obama because he thinks he's a great man?
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:29 PM
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13. the conservative elite wants her |
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So they can run against her. They know how weak McCain is. The Republicans who are for Obama are regular folks who are fed up with the Republican agenda and all of the failures we've seen. They get no inspiration from McCain--no indication that he will change anything. So they abandon the party.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:08 PM
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2. It's their TYPICAL reverse psychology. They REALLY want to run against Obama. |
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They'll chew him up and spit him out. He's the one they are praying for. They don't fool me.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:11 PM
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3. That comment is so ignorant, it doesn't even deserve a response. n/t |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:13 PM
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When President Obama is sworn in, will you admit you were wrong? |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:18 PM
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10. Except it's right, many liberals aren't supporting her. They're supporting Obama. |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:32 PM
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16. Yeah and the aren't going to chew up Clinton either |
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:26 PM
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23. Correct, they also timed it just right for the |
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big contests coming up.
She can beat them and they know it.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:28 PM
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29. Yeah, they've been planning it since the 90s |
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Get real, they have been ramping up the hate on hillary for a long time. They are confident that they know how to campaign against her and are relishing the opportunity. Obama simply wasn't a likely possibility to the GOP until January, and a lot of the hardcore 'pubs I know are talking like they're part-time employees of the Clinton campaign. They really do not want to run against Obama. Of course, if they have to they'll pull all the stops out and give it the old college try, but the most vocal opposition I've seen to Obama from 'pubs is the xenophobic/racist 'he's a Muslim socialist and he's scary cuz he's black' drivel that very few take seriously any more. Most of the GOP opposition to him is distinctly half-hearted.
The 'GOP will eat Obama for breakfast' pitch is strictly from inside the Clinton camp. Anyway, if she's having so much trouble beating Obama how is she going to compete against the Republicans? Those who think Obama is giving her too hard a time would probably have a brain aneurism once they saw a GOP campaign against Hillary. There seems to be this attitude that Republicans will rip Obama to shreads but will just do a rerun of the 1992 camapaign against Bill Clinton if they face Hillary.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:36 PM
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33. You're exactly right. |
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If they REALLY wanted Clinton, why announce it? Wouldn't that hurt their chances of getting what they want? Keep in mind, they've used Osama tapes in the past general to scare people into voting their way. It's all a game with them. Trust nothing from them. They never tell the truth.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:12 PM
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4. They did the same with Dean in 2004 |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:14 PM
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6. Bingo! If the GOP wants to face Hillary so bad you'd think they wouldn't be talking up Obama so much |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:17 PM
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They wanted to face Dean, hence the 04 cover Now they want to face Clinton, hence the 08 cover
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:20 PM
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11. I'm certain they did NOT want Dean to be our nominee. |
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Karl Rove at a rally, "Go Dean! Go Dean!"
But we had that F'ing shotgun wedding with Kerry instead. That worked out real well. :(
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:32 PM
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in almost everyone voting for him?
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:39 PM
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They indeed wanted him. Not everything is reverse psychology.
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:29 PM
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24. The MSM, right arm of the Repuke machine is giving Obama a free ride. |
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That's the valid way to discern who they want to run against.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:44 PM
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19. And look at who ended up the nominee and BEATEN TO A PULP! |
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by the MSM and the Swiftboaters! That's their plan for Obama. GUARANTEED. They REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to run against Obama. They're foaming at the mouth over the prospect.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:13 PM
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5. Ya think they got old man Buckley |
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tied up in the basement?
Those crazy kids.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:30 PM
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14. Because they really want to run against Obama. |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:33 PM
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:49 PM
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20. Actually, THEY DO! It's how they work! They pretend they want a certain candidate, the Dems vote |
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against the candidate the repukes SAY they want (when REALLY it's the other candidate) which is EXACTLY how the repukes expect the Dems to vote and then they get the candidate they REALLY want to go up against.....and beat them to a PULP....John Kerry/Swiftboaters.
The repukes acted like they REALLY wanted to run against Dean in 2004, when they really wanted Kerry. They had their Swiftboaters waiting in the wings for JK. We all know how THAT ended up.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:18 PM
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28. Believe what you wish |
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because you choose to. Reality is quite different though.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:30 PM
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Believing in your 'theory' requires believing that the entire anti-Hillary industry the GOP and its affiliates have been running since the late 90s was nothing more than a smokescreen designed to get the party to nominate someone else.
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:18 PM
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22. They See Which Way The Wind Is Blowing |
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At a town-hall meeting in Derry, N.H., in January, Mitt Romney tried to stir the crowd in the immediate aftermath of Barack Obama’s upset victory in Iowa: “We cannot afford Barack Obama as the next president!” About two people applauded. The next day, in Nashua, he mentioned Obama, but added, “I can’t wait to meet Hillary Clinton face to face.” Sustained applause.
Taken together, those two very different reactions provide a reliable barometer of conservative sentiment toward the Democratic candidates. Conservatives have long experience loathing Hillary Clinton. It has become second nature. If they ever do come to feel the same way about Barack Obama — and they may not — it will take time. Hillary Clinton will long hold pride of place as an object of scorn and a source of motivation for conservatives.
Without Hillary they have no chance in November. They know it too.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:01 PM
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25. Of course they want Hillary... |
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Their voters are so demoralized and discouraged that only Hillary can possibly get out their voters.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:03 PM
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26. anyone who doesn't realize how badly the republicans are salivating over a hillary candidacy needs.. |
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to pay closer attention
they hate her. hate her. hate her. hate her.
more than anything else on the planet.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:30 PM
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30. Their mouths are dry, I assure you. Hillary is their worst nightmare. |
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:42 PM
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34. you keep telling yourself that |
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:49 PM
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35. I'm on a few winger e-mail lists--i.e., what the wingnuts are saying to one another... |
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...and they ain't lickin' their chops at the prospect of her Presidency. They'll croak if we pick Hillary.
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Sun Feb-17-08 04:31 PM
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32. Hillary will unite Republicans, run off Independents, and divide Democrats. Simple math. |
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How can any rational Democrat want that??
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