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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:26 PM
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Proof That Clinton BETRAYS American Workers With Strong Support of Outsourcing Jobs to India
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 11:33 PM by Dems Will Win

HILLARY WON'T STOP OUTSOURCING - OBAMA WILL

Clinton Woos the Outsourcers that Workers Fear

This month, she made a similar case to a conference of Indian workers in Silicon Valley, saying she supported an expansion of visas. “Foreign skilled workers contribute greatly to our U.S. technological development,” she told the group via satellite.

Clinton acknowledged the strains on American workers and called for more job-training programs. But her words seemed to distance her from those who would end outsourcing. Increased U.S. job losses, she said, could cause Americans to “seek more protection against what they view as unfair competition.”

The Tata deal, she said in a 2005 stop in India, exemplified the cooperation that will “help to prevent the kind of negative feelings that could be stirred up” by critics of the global marketplace. She called those critics “short-sighted.”


http://bp2.blogger.com/_d9PxlbCXrxA/RuyouHU0hII/AAAAAAAAAAc/eB1_hnP758g/s200/Hillary-Tata+Smooch.jpg

Today, on the campaign trail, Clinton often strikes a different tone. Addressing union audiences and Democratic crowds, she does not highlight her support for expanding foreign-worker visas. Instead, Clinton often laments a system that, as she told a government workers union last month, rewards companies for “moving our jobs overseas.” “Outsourcing is a problem, and it’s one that I’ve dealt with as a senator from New York,” Clinton said during a Democratic candidates debate in June. She said she had tried “to stand against the tide of outsourcing.”

...

But critics say that Tata has done more to undercut workers in upstate New York than it has helped - and that Clinton is wrong to argue that exposing U.S. workers to competition from foreign workers is helping both groups.

Since Tata arrived in Buffalo, “the reality is that it probably created many more jobs for workers overseas and displaced lots of American workers,”
said Ronil Hira, a public policy professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology and a prominent critic of outsourcing.

A report released by two senators said that Tata was one of the biggest users of foreign-worker visas in the United States, employing more than 7,900 visa recipients last year. The large number of visas suggests that companies are circumventing laws designed to protect American workers, Sens. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said in their report.

Clinton and many other lawmakers have called for cracking down on visa abuse. At the same time, she has backed an increase in the number of foreigners admitted to the U.S. each year under the main type of visa for high-tech workers.
The cap is 65,000 each year; companies are seeking 115,000.

And her campaign continues to telegraph - sometimes in front of Indian American audiences - that she sees benefits to a globalized world.

Three weeks ago, her husband drew applause at a conference of 14,000 Indian Americans in Washington as he extolled the benefits of “open borders, easy travel, easy immigration.” He said the outsourcing debate bothered him because it failed to acknowledge the contributions of Indians who settled in the U.S. The same day, he headlined a fundraiser at the conference for his wife’s campaign.


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/30/2857/


PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU THINK CLINTON'S SUPPORT OF INDIAN OUTSOURCING IS A BETRAYAL OF THE AMERICAN WORKER
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:27 PM
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1. Can't wait for Obama to pound her on this stuff in the debate
Especially the one in Ohio
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:28 PM
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2. I sure hope he exposes the Tata Support
If you'll pardon the expression.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:15 AM
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29. !
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:37 AM
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13. The OHIO and TEXAS trusted journalists are salivating...
... for the end of the embargo.

The Clintons cannot handle the truth of their donor ties.

- Dave
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:59 PM
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27. Gupta, Tata, what else is there?
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:00 PM
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22. Let's see Ronald Regan traded half the hotels and motels in the U.S. to make India ready for U.S. J.
And you want to pin this on Bill Clinton, wake up and smell what has been going on for years, Bill Clinton with both houses republican had to do lots of thing he didn't want to do, and is voted in every poll that I have seen one of the best 5 American Presidents of all times...
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:02 PM
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23. She will have him stuttering and mumbling all the debate
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 12:03 PM by surfermaw
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:51 PM
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26. Hope a Hope
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:53 PM
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3. Look at the Clinton Library Donors...you're VERY HOT on the trail here n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:10 AM
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4. Vinod Gupta
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vinod+gupta">Vin Gupta is a must-know name for any would-be-effective Obama supporter.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:16 AM
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5. Thanks, everyone should read this link
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:22 AM
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7. Ohio media is being briefed about the Clintons' dealings with him...
... and how they hurt the Buckeye State. That's just one small part of what waits for the Clintons this week.

- Dave
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:32 AM
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16. The media doesn't seem to want to touch this

There were articles in The Buffalo News (Buffalonians got screwed by Tata & Clinton)
and The Washington Post a while back, but it didn't seem to catch. Now that Clinton
is faking that she is for the workers, it really should be headline news.

Perhaps the unions backing Obama know this, but they aren't mentioning it in their
endorsement statements.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:59 AM
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18. Timed for primetime introduction to Rust Belt voters...
... since she won't get off the stage.

- Dave
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:17 AM
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6. not a pantsuit! Look!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:23 AM
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8. The look of avarice on her face is palpable
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:51 AM
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20. I wouldn't trust her to run a profitable call center. n/t
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:35 AM
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9. hmmm
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:07 AM
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12. No apology for the IWR vote in India, either: or, no Sorry in a Sari
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:45 AM
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10. Nafta - Immigration - Offshoring
Hillary is a fake. Do I need to yell it?

She already has hecklers and protesters, but I don't need to tell you where this road will lead.




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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:47 AM
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11. Vinod Gupta. n/t
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:00 AM
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14. kick
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:03 AM
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15. Obama won't "end" outsourcing either. The best you can do is slow it.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:42 AM
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17. So why was Obama campaigning in Iowa while Hillary was in Congress fighting this?
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 10:43 AM by Tom Rinaldo
Cornyn Seeks Interim Relief For America's Technology
Companies

Introduces Amendment Aimed at Protecting U.S.
Competitiveness
Thursday, July 19, 2007

WASHINGTON— Building on his efforts to protect U.S.
competitiveness, U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, ranking
Republican on the Immigration, Border Security and
Citizenship subcommittee, today introduced an
amendment to the Higher Education Reconciliation,
currently under consideration by the Senate, which
would strengthen employer access to skilled employees.


“A key part of the American economy is our ability to
innovate. Yet, today, our country’s technology
companies are facing an impending crisis which
requires critical interim relief,” U.S. Sen. Cornyn
said today. “USCIS’s announcement this year that the
cap for H-1B workers was met in just one day, coupled
with the recent July announcement that
employment-based visas were no longer available for
those with advanced degrees, makes clear that industry
needs interim relief today until we can return to
comprehensive immigration reform. This amendment will
go a long way to help out businesses that are the
life-blood of the U.S. economy and I hope my
colleagues will join me in supporting it.”

Specifically, the Cornyn Amendment would allow the
Department of State and DHS to “recapture” unused
employment-based visas. This is not an increase in
employment-based numbers but rather, a direction for
the agencies to use all the visa numbers that are
available today. These visa numbers will be
distributed to nurses and physical therapists and
aliens with extraordinary ability, advanced degrees,
and needed skills. In addition, the Cornyn Amendment
also includes a one-time H-1B increase of 115,000 (up
from the 65,000) for FY 2008 only.

Sen. Cornyn serves on the Armed Services, Judiciary
and Budget Committees. In addition, he is Vice
Chairman of the Senate Republican Conference and the
Senate Select Committee on Ethics. He serves as the
top Republican on the Judiciary Committee’s
Immigration, Border Security and Refugees subcommittee
and the Armed Services Committee’s Airland
subcommittee. He served previously as Texas Attorney
General, Texas Supreme Court Justice, and Bexar County
District Judge.

S.AMDT.2339
Amends: H.R.2669 , S.AMDT.2327
Amendments to this amendment: S.AMDT.2348
Sponsor: Sen Cornyn, John (submitted 7/19/2007)
(proposed 7/19/2007)

AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To provide interim relief for shortages in
employment-based visas for aliens with extraordinary
ability and advanced degrees and for nurses.

TEXT OF AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED: CR S9629

STATUS:

7/19/2007:
Amendment SA 2339 proposed by Senator Cornyn to
Amendment SA 2327. (consideration: CR S9588; text: CR
S9588)
7/19/2007:
Point of order raised in Senate with respect to
amendment SA 2339.
7/19/2007:
Motion to waive the Budget Act with respect to
amendment SA 2339 rejected in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote.
55 - 40. Record Vote Number: 266.
7/19/2007:
Amendment SA 2339 ruled out of order by the chair.

COSPONSORS(6):

Sen Enzi, Michael B. - 7/19/2007
Sen Gregg, Judd - 7/19/2007
Sen Smith, Gordon H. - 7/19/2007
Sen Sununu, John E. - 7/19/2007
Sen Coleman, Norm - 7/19/2007
Sen Voinovich, George V. - 7/19/2007


Amendment DENIED

http://tinyurl.com/28rvda


Here is the actual Roll Call:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00266

Note this:

Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Not Voting
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Nay

Note this:

Not Voting - 5
Brownback (R-KS)
Byrd (D-WV)
Johnson (D-SD)
Lott (R-MS)
Obama (D-IL)

Here is where Obama was instead:

http://tinyurl.com/ysnrln



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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 AM
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19. Can you help me with where she stood on the IWR? Thanks!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:24 PM
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24. So her going to India to tout outsorcing doesn't bother you? Thanks for that...
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:56 AM
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21. Let's add to the collection of proof:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

I love to toss this in the face of people who say that HRC is the best for economy and labor. We've known this since 2004 that she's nothing but a neo-lib in Dem's clothing.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:07 PM
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25. Thanks. Funny, Tata brought 8 jobs to Buffalo, the rest came from India
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 03:08 PM by catgirl

Too bad Lou Dobbs didn't have all the info. when he interviewed Hillary.
That would have been a very uncomfortable moment for her. She would
have lost a lot of votes too.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:27 PM
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28. I mistrust Obama on this as well
There is a reason why those two are frontrunners, and it isn't because of their populism. We will just have to push whoever wins the nomination and presidency from the bottom.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:02 AM
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30. Hillary is far worse
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:00 PM
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31. kick
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