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Tue Feb-19-08 06:25 PM
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Clinton deciding to go Ultra-Negative only helps Mccain. Figures she would sell us out. |
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Howard Wilson was just on continuing to hammer away with the "plagiarism" charge, more than ever. they are trying to ham-string Obama permanently. hurting everyone in the long run for thier own intrests.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:26 PM
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1. HA HA----recall who stated this with his REPUG neg. ad of Harry and Louise. get real |
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:46 PM
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5. Like 2 people sitting at a table is the same as this nonsense. |
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How can you support this type of meaningless distraction? Anything to win, right?
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:27 PM
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2. The public financing thing was surreal. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:28 PM
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3. She forced him to use recyled words in his NEW campaign and forced |
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his wife to say dumb things.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:29 PM
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4. People who are surprised apparently forgot 2004 |
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When Sen. Clinton led the team that talked Kerry into backing down fighting OH. This is about her, and incidentally about pissing on the 49% of the country who hates her (and sadly many of her supporters seem to feel that way too).
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:05 PM
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6. Of course you can provide proof of this statement? Let's have it |
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:12 PM
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8. Proof of which statement? I made 2 |
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Obviously there's no remote chance of proving the 2nd statement; it's an interpretation of her behavior. The first statement I cannot document with links; it's just what all of us working on Capitol Hill heard in '04. Actually I think Roll Call did an article on it which I will try to dig up, but that itself is hardly proof since it's only sourcing staffers.
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:15 PM
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Obama is well known for surrounding himself with Fightin' Tom daschle's people. Remember how hard he fought between 02-04?
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:12 PM
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this is nothing. If this actually hurts obama past this week, then he's got bigger problems.
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:22 PM
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10. Republicans are plenty good at finding attack lines against Democrats |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 07:25 PM by Tom Rinaldo
What we need to know in a primary is how well our candidates respond and hold up under fire. It actually is better for us if a line of possible attack against our ultimate candidate emerges before the General Election campaign begins than during it. In a way it is similar to what is called "getting out in front" of a negative issue: Flush it out, make it old news, move on. If Obama becomes our nominee it will be far better for him to deal with this "borrowed words" matter now rather than have it freshly sprung on him in an attack ad by the Republicans.
Remember there was a Republican candidate running against Deval Patrick back when he made his speeches the first time. The Republican Party already knows exactly how Patrick defeated them in Massachusetts. They were there at the time paying very close attention.
The problem for any opponent of Obama in the primaries is that Democratic primary voters have misgivings about Democrats attacking other Democrats, so it is a double edged sword to initiate an attack; it can cut the one wielding that sword more than the intended victim. The Republicans will have no such concern. As soon as it would have done them the most good they would have used this against Obama themselves. They didn't need Hillary Clinton or anyone else to point this out to them. Political operatives carefully study the political campaigns of their adversaries. They know who Barack Obama's campaign manager has managed in the past. They are already pouring over the records of those campaigns for clues how he will manage Obama's current campaign.
The Republicans already knew all about this potential "controversy" and they would have made damn sure the public found out also at the appropriate time. It's just the Democratic primary voters who had no clue this might come up.
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