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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:59 PM Original message |
Has any Presidential candidate won 11 straight primaries and LOST the nomination? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Depends on the states...he hasn't won TX, CA, MI, FL, OH, PA, NY, or NJ. nt |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Again with the "only some states matter" theme..... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It's just a mindfuck to me that this is possible. nt |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Why? Should we have instead a nomination process counting only those states? |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Those are the states with the most delegates. You can't win without them. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. What makes you think that he wouldn't win them in the GE? |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I'm not saying she is - Obama hopefully can win a lot of them. |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. But He Will In The GE... |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. What depends? Either it's happened before or it hasn't. n/t |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. and MI and FL were not competitive races no delegates were divided. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. And TX, OH, and PA havent even voted yet. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. No-one won Michigan and Florida, because there were no valid primaries there. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Clinton hasn't won OH, TX or PA either. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. There is something called Super Delegates |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. As I said in my OP, I'm well aware a Clinton comeback can happen. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. believe me, in the end the super delgeates will jump on the bandwagon of the person with the |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. First time for everything. nt |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama wins are caucus and open primary states |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Obama has won FIVE closed primary states, Clinton has won FOUR. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Big diff? How does that address my question? n/t |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. It was convention voting only until the reforms after '72/'76 came into play, no tract record. n/t |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. How about afterward? |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I think the SD won that one for Carter. n/t |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. There were no superdelegates then. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Your right, just remembered something about some Gov and Congress reps not getting elected delegates |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Or maybe you were thinking 1984. Looks like Gary Hart won 26 states. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. Wow. Maybe history WILL be made ... |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. I think it's important to note, and perhaps more telling than anything.... |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Wait a minute. Didn't Edwards drop out before Feb. 5? |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. You're right. What I should have said was... |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. He didn't drop out, but suspended to hold his delegates or get back in. n/t |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. Here's another question... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. its not an invalid question, but dont you think you should try to answer the OPs question |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I would if I could n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. NJ used to be in June - so I doubt it |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Yes. Senator Ted Kennedy in 1980. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. This is the first year that CA has been relevant for a long time. |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Yes |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. Is anyone going to give a straight answer to Robert's question? |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Thank you, stevenleser. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. Humphrey won none. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not since 1968 |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. You are partially correct. A small handful of states held primaries, but most did not. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. My research indicates the answer is NO. |
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