Exilednight
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:12 PM
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No Matter Who Gets The Nomination, And Who They Choose For Their VP.. |
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When our candidate takes the office, should the role of VP be diminished from the powers that shrubeney have given it?
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:14 PM
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1. If Clinton is elected, any VP will have a problem |
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because of Bill-imo. The role will be fuzzy regardless.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:15 PM
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Has he played a powerful, behind-the-scenes role in her senate career?
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:16 PM
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4. How ya gonna keep him down on the farm... |
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Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:17 PM by babylonsister
I just don't see him organizing state dinners. He has a strong personality and a large mouth.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:21 PM
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has he played a big role in her Senate career?
Why spread the right-wing lie that he's really bucking to be President again, himself?
He doesn't have to organize state dinners - he'll have plenty to do. But the notion that he'll be a powerful second-in-command is unfounded. Furthermore, the VP isn't even the second-in-command, usually, except on paper. The Chief of Staff usually has much more real power.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:31 PM
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9. A senator is not a president. Doncha think he might attempt to have |
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some input? And didn't Hillary try to use him until he failed her in her campaign? Didn't she try to attach her experience to his? Come on. We can agree to disagree, but that's what I saw.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:48 PM
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10. sure he'll have input |
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every first spoiuse does.
Your assertion that he'll usurp the VP's role, though, is entirely unfounded.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:50 PM
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12. But not out of the realm of possibility which is why a VP for Clinton |
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would have to think long and hard before they took the job.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:53 PM
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16. Nothing's out of the realm of possibility. |
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It's within the realm of possibility that Michelle Obama will usurp the VP's role.
You're just making shit up.
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Thu Feb-21-08 10:06 PM
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19. Get outa here! You're not facing reality! Enough! Like I said, |
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you are you, I am I, and never the twain shall meet.
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Thu Feb-21-08 10:11 PM
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20. You're the one who mentioned |
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"the realm of possibility".
As I said, you're making up shit.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:14 PM
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2. Actually, there's a pretty good guidebook on how to run it |
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It's called the Constitution.
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Exilednight
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:20 PM
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5. The Constitution, where it concerns the VP is ... |
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vague at best, and very open to interpretation. shrubeney's interpretation is much different than mine and yours.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:22 PM
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Is there anything inherently wrong with a powerful VP?
Al Gore was exceptionally powerful in his term. It worked out OK.
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Exilednight
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:27 PM
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8. Gore wasn't nearly as powerful as Cheney was. |
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I'm a firm believer in restoring checks and balances. As much as I am looking forward to a Democratic President, let's be practical, we might get a good 8, 12, or 16 year run out of this, but at some point a repug will win the Presidency again. It's my belief that limits need to be put on the President and Vice President, and their power roles must be diminished from their current levels.
I just don't want to see another cheney have this kind of power again, and let's face it the repugs aren't going to do anything to lessen that power.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:49 PM
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11. Yes, it's a problem when the VP says he doesn't have to reveal things.... |
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...to the public or Congress because laws concerning the executive branch don't apply to him.
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Thu Feb-21-08 10:03 PM
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18. That's not a function |
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of the role of the VP. It's a function of having an asshole in the White House.
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:51 PM
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Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 09:52 PM by Eric J in MN
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Thu Feb-21-08 09:51 PM
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15. The VP shouldn't be allowed to create an Office of Special Plans... |
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...to cook up his own intelligence reports.
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Thu Feb-21-08 10:01 PM
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17. I was just curious to other peoples thoughts about this. I believe we need to ... |
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not lose sight of what we are all fighting for, and praying that our next President, no matter which Democrat it may be, has the strength to do the right thing.
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