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Freida5 (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:42 AM Original message |
CNN is all over Obama for rejecting State of Black Union invitation. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sen. Obama has an election to win, Tavis wants publicity. I guess |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. sure, don't want to upset the white folks who might be offended by the bluntness of the discussions |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. And you're grasping at straws, as usual. Why isn't Mrs. Obama good |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. the same reason Bill Clinton's no substitute for hearing from Hillary herself |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. If Bill hadn't screwed up SC for her, he'd be front and center in every |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. That's not the rationale Tavis is using for dismissing the substitution of Michelle |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. HIs rationale is to make this an issue when it shouldn't be. He is |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. How dare he question the actions of your icon? |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. And I bet a months pay he'd be there instead of her... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. So, on the one hand, people express "concern" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. He rejects Michelle the same as he would Bill Clinton as a substitute. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Sorry, but I don't believe for a second Tavis would reject Bill |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Tavis said so |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yes, Tavis says so...he also says that Sen Obama never |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. that was later on, after the controversy erupted, that Obama sent the letter with the offer |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. You trust Ms Smiley on this matter. I don't |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Are you a member of a 'cult' because of who you choose to believe? |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. No. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. then don't suppose (as you did) that those agreeing with Tavis are in a cult |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I didn't suppose anything about "those." |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Does Tavis have a cult? |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. I don't know why people ask rhetorical questions |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. you know |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Honestly, I never get involved in these ad hominems |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. give it a rest. I happened to catch Joe Madison's radio show when this occurred |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I'm black and I take an opposite position to the 'callers' |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
65. Err. Who died and left Smiley boss of the "black agenda?" (whatever the hell |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
104. and more and more people in the black community now agree |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. big deal.... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I imagine Sen. Obama feels the same way. nt |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Essence Mag: Why Obama should skip... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Excellent find; end of discussion. nt |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
67. in other words, since he's got the black vote anyway |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
81. I think the idea is that he has to get elected so he can |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. institutional level...like institutional racism? |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I think... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. it's a sad reality |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
94. "everyday" in paragraph 3 should be two words. One more reason to vote for Hillary. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. And, if Hillary failed to show up? She would be vilified as usual. |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Sliding slope... sliding slope... |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I learned this craft from Obama supporters who always cry "racism" |
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GDavis (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:12 AM Original message |
Having secured the black vote BO is trying to 'whiten' himself for white votes |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
91. I keep hearing about all these cry's of racism...but I don't |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. White victimhood. The gift that keeps on giving. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #50 |
82. I think you mean black victimhood, but that's not something you would probably notice. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. whoa...that's telling. |
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chitty (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. My guess is |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. They'll forgive him AND defend him. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
105. already forgiven. Actually, there was nothing to forgive him for. |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. CNN Is Pushing Hillary |
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Freida5 (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That is good, helps to offset MessNBC and Fox |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. That's a joke, |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
60. gawd--please inform yourself before spouting off garbage. |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. After searching on the internet; most of us AA have NO problems |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Clinton is trying to win also, |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Please stop, how did Hil "miss" the fisa voe then? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. No thanks, I won't stop |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
63. You know, I'm sorry but there are some of us who cannot |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. She's gotta follow different rules though, I know you're not surprised by this. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
70. speak for yoursefl...please |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. Obama has an election to win, just in case people have lost sight of that fact... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Oh BS, |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Oh, so is Chelsea running? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. What the hell does that have to do |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
96. Obama is not the one who offended AAs. Hillary did. So of course.. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
21. Sorry, this won't put a dent in Obama despite your desperate |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
107. exactly, and at this point we see hillary's attendance as just another |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
25. Will Hillary be talking about how LBJ made the civil rights movement possible? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. She might talk about how LBJ |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Obama refused as McClurkin won't be there |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
34. The State of the Black Union will improve if Obama is elected. |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Thank you and most of us AA's understand that. |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
109. Alcoholics Anonymous? |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. self-delete |
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ncdem1975 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
69. exactly |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Great post. Welcome to DU! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
73. the black vote, the black vote, the black vote!!!!!!! |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. Shove it, CNN and Tavis |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Why is that exactly? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Hillary dissed the state during the primary and after Obama's win. That's why! n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Deleted sub-thread |
sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
44. He deserves it. This reminds me of the McClurkin mess. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
47. Yeah. Like CNN thought Tavis's State of the Union was such a crushingly important event LAST year. |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Exactly!!!! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
52. Everyone knows that "black" leaders are supposed to go to "black" conventions... |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
53. is the state of the black union going to change if he goes to this event?lol |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
54. Obama offered to send Michelle, THEY declined, end of story. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
55. Tavis Smiley is an insufferable, pompous, egotistic ass. Ugh! |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. I'd guess that more white people are familiar with Tavis than black. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. really? |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. My workplace is about 80% black. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. ahh...what state are you in? |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #80 |
87. GA. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. smiley has been on black radio for some time |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. And many black folk don't listen to any sort of political radio either. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. yes...i know |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
92. Tavis is a legend in his own mind. Period. nt |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. he's pretty well-known in my circle |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
57. alert on this - DU rules broken here - please raed them |
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texas_indy (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. But, how can this be? The MSM is under orders by the vast right wing conspiracy |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
71. Concentrating on Texas and Ohio, Pennsylvania are much more important |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. You didn't get the memo? Ohio, Texas and PA don't matter either. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
86. It's his Sista Soulja moment; a smart move politically. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. that was staged (and bad) performance art |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
97. This won't hurt him; it only bruises Tavis's ego |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
98. In the long run not going to this will help Obama |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. ...as long as it doesn't get a lot of media attention. - nt |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
100. So the CIA network is bothered by Obama's absence.... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
102. CNN always seems to think they know what black America thinks. |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
106. SOBU officially said they did not invite Michelle, and Michelle did not offer. |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
108. If he DID, you Hillars would be all over him for playing the race card. |
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