So I had about 20 Church ladies in my house today

[Perky]

My wife hoted this party for a friend of ours who is doing a home-based business ans she invited like 40 frinds from Church and about 20 of then showed up. I got volunteered for daddy day care.

Lucky me and seven kids for 2 hours.

So. I am coralling the kids for a video in the family room and one of the ladies comments to me on how well Obama is doing I agree... but that set off a church-pleasant conversation about Politics. Now understand that our fellowship is quite intentionly apolitical. Very middle of the road, multi-racial but has a good number of military and defense contractors (The Church is about ten miles form the Pentagon). But we typically stay out of politics on sunday mornings and it never gets mentioned from the politcs. So because we are typically quiet about politics, these types on conversations are alway tricky.


Anyway, these ladies ranged from 30 to about 55 I guess. Alot of socio-economic diversity and the ten or so who had this conversation all commented about how they have been watching things unfold,


What was amazing was that while no one would cop to voting for Obama they all had pleasant things to say about the candidate. The amusing part was that like five of them said they had republican relatives who were voting for Obama. There as a general agreement that McCain was old and the odd thing was Hillary was never even mentioned.

So I waited for a pause and asked the only question I could without my wife throwing a crockpot full of appetizers at me: "So who do think is going to win this thing in November"? In unison 9 out of the ten said Obama. The other just took a deep breath and asked " so who else is coming"

I left for the family room and my wife just rolled her eyes....

[ryanmuegge]

1. I think it's been established in the public consciousness that Obama is our nominee.

Although I think that's premature, but a lot of people I know have been talking about the general election in terms of Obama vs. McCain.

A lot of people in my family are still supporters of Mike Huckleberry, though, unfortunately. There's a big religious right contingent in my extended family.

[Perky]

4. Actually the 9 out ten were saying that Obama would win the General election.

[ryanmuegge]

5. That's pretty much been my finding, too, when I talk to people around here.

Most people don't even mention Clinton, like in your experience.

[OzarkDem]

17. Check the polls, only a 5 pt spread between Obama and Clinton

in national polling.

[ryanmuegge]

18. Yeah, I know, but the momentum effect of the media talking about Clinton being essentially done

seems to have had a greater effect than the polls indicate.

By the way, I don't think this is anywhere near over. The media is acting like it is, though.

[goodgd_yall]

2. An observation

I think it is also quite acceptable to say you are for Obama, but it isn't to say you are for Hillary Clinton. I imagine if they are church ladies, it might even be more risky to say you support Hillary. Hillary has the reputation for being an outspoken liberal and very supportive of women's rights. That in itself might be a turn off to church ladies.

[Perky]

3. Actually they all know I support Obama.

It acutally is somewhat stunning to me that I have not met anyone in the Northern Virginia areas who was actively backing Hillary. I kjnow there are some out there....but no one seeams at ease talking about their support.


That strikes me as a little odd ane actually somewhat troubling.

[goodgd_yall]

6. I was at a tea attended by many local peace and justice activists

Those of us who were Hillary supporters were in the minority and I, for one, kept quiet about who I was supporting knowing I was surrounded by Obama supporters. I think I imagined being put on the defensive and I just wasn't wanting to be in that position. I think feelings are strong on both sides and we're past the point of civil discourse on each candidate's good and bad points. Although, I later did have a chance to speak with an Obama supporter and it was a pleasant experience.

[Arugula Latte]

10. I've heard her criticized in liberal circles for not being liberal enough.

[Cha]

7. Great story Perky..I love these

homespun anecdotes. There was much talk at work today about the Dem primary and I almost lost it with a hilary supporter giving me her disingenous talking points..but I kept my cool and didn't say anything negative when she was whining about Michelle Obama "having to think about it" when asked if she would vote for hilary. All I said was, "you feel that way but there are others who understand what Michelle is talking about." Her worry is that the Dems won't come together because this is what hilary and bill have been working for all this time". The phone rang just in time to same me from saying something I would feel bad about afterwards. It's all about hilary and bil doncha know?

Another encounter was with the publisher of our small town paper and he and I are on the same page, so to speak. He thinks Obama has a good chance on getting the nom and we were excitingly talking about "the unearthly" phenomenon known as Obama.

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[monmouth]

11. Geez, why couldn't I ever find a nice husband/dad like you....n/t

[jlpohio69]

12. I had lunch with 7 co-workers the other day

and we also talked about politics, an no one at the table is planning to vote for Obama. So who is right??

We could go back and forth for days on a topic like this saying "my church group said, my cooking class said, my co-workers said", but we will never get anywhere as no one will ever agree who is right.

[Vinca]

13. 9 out of 10 church ladies can't be wrong.

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

14. Bouncy, bouncy

[grantcart]

15. well no cookies for you

I too love reading these honest little anectdotal stories from all candidates

[UALRBSofL]

16. Porky, I love the church ladies

They are a hoot. That said, they are on the right track voting for Hillary and I'm glad you didn't sway them. LOL. :)

[Yurovsky]

19. My lone GOP relative ...

is a brother-in-law who worked for a drug company. About the most far-right black man this side of Alan Keyes (who doesn't count due to his obvious insanity). This guy works for this company nearly 20 years, making a good living, allowing my sister to stay at home and raise their 3 kids. About a year ago, he was laid off (along with a suspiciously high % of other senior employees at this company) and forced to forego any legal recourse if he wanted the severance package. So he had to decide whether or not to pay the mortgage or spend the next several years pursuing what he felt was a legitimate claim of age discrimination.

Meanwhile, the CEO who was let go about the same time walked away with over $210 MILLION dollars.

Needless to say, my brother-in-law has had a bit of an epiphany. He'll be voting for Obama this November, the first time since I met the guy nearly 25 years ago that he won't be voting republikan. I have a very strong sense, given the current economy, that he won't be alone.