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Tue Feb-26-08 11:17 AM
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A thread comparing the Clinton Campaign to a LYNCHING gets 25 recs? |
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I would like to thank the great majority of Obama supporters who showed class, humanity, and a knowledge of our history, for not recommending such a thread.
Thank you all, very much.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:19 AM
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1. i am with you on that. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:21 AM
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2. I rarely agree with you |
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but I do on this. I admire much of that poster's writing. I thought that thread was way over the line.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM
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15. Thank you very much, cali |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:23 AM
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3. any kind of racist or sexits rhetoric of that nature |
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Should never be recommended.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:25 AM
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4. I'm glad I missed that thread and you are absolutely correct. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:29 AM
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5. nevermind. I see it. Havent read it though. nt |
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Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 11:30 AM by bunnies
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:32 AM
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6. I know. I.....don't know what to say. |
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People have lost all sense of perspective. It seems that Hillary Clinton has become the scapegoat for every wrong this country ever committed.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:36 AM
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I have seen posts comparing her/her campaign to Hilter also.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:15 PM
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:02 PM
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28. The amount of bile being spewed by both sides on this site is horrific. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:05 PM
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30. True, but I don't recall seeing Obama being accused of murdering people. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:51 PM
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54. An Obama supporter here yesterday said that some Hillary supporters are homicidal. |
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:wtf: Said he would be the first to admit that some Hillary supporters are homicidal.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:53 PM
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55. That's true. I have to wonder what some people are thinking |
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when the post stuff like that? :scratches head:
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:34 AM
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7. and glad the HITLER one finally got locked also. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:44 AM
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16. The "strange fruit" thread is not locked. |
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Apparently it is now ok on DU to compare Hillary Clinton's campaign to the lynching of black people.
Will any Obama supporter speak against these tactics, or do the 25 recs speak for themselves? Is every Obama supporter in agreement with this comparison? Hillary Clinton's campaign is the same as lynching?
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:50 AM
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22. I gather you didn't see my post upthread. |
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I am an Obama supporter and as I said, that thread was way over the line. I'm happy to distance myself from it.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:59 AM
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25. Thank you, Cali. I hadn't seen your response. Now I do. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:15 PM
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37. i do not know the strange fruit one. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:19 PM
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40. I don't want to link it or kick it. The title is Strange Fruit Campaign. |
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The OP is reference to Hillary Clinton's campaign and several lines from a famous song about people being lynched in the south.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:21 PM
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Thu Feb-28-08 09:07 AM
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70. I'd be curious to know how many people did not know what the song meant. |
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I had no idea. I wonder how many people who are unfamiliar with that song might have rec'd the post before reading the replies?
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:53 PM
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56. Billie Hoilday...Strange Fruit..hanging in the trees...twistin in the breeze... |
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It was her signiture song
famous jazz singer in 40's 50's
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:35 AM
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8. And this one only has 1, lol. n/t |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:39 AM
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12. You think this is funny. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:45 AM
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17. I think that starting a thread to complain about another thread is funny, yes. |
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Especially when you only get three a day.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:48 AM
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20. You're a credit to your candidate. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:50 AM
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23. This thread is saying thank you to the majority of DU's Obama Supporters. |
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If I only was allowed one thread a week it would be worth it to let them know how much I respect them.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:14 PM
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35. OP is thanking Obamasupporters. I hope you Recommended this thread. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:34 PM
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:36 AM
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9. Everyone who recommends it should be tombstoned. |
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DU should have zero tolerance for that kind of behavior.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 AM
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:27 PM
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46. what about the OP of that thread? |
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who is one of the more popular and respected (though not by me) posters on this board?
Or is this whole thing just a symptom of what a shithole DU has become - that the Hillary campaign can be compared to the lynching of black men and it not only remains unlocked, it gets a ton of recs?
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:34 PM
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48. It has been suggested that the OP didn't know 'Strange Fruit' was the bodies of murdered black men, |
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Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 12:43 PM by MethuenProgressive
Murdered black men and boys, that is. I find that impossible to believe.
edit, spelling
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:38 PM
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52. since that OP prides himself on his ability to pull obscure |
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quotes from historical figures off google and post them to back up his ramblings...
I also find that hard to believe...
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:55 PM
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57. I don't believe for one second that the OP of that horrid thread was |
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unaware of what the lyrics are and mean. He meant to imply that the Clinton campaign was analogous to lynchings - I am shocked at this particular DUer and sickened by the depths to which this board has stooped...
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:37 AM
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM
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14. Thanks for posting this thread, MP. The other one by water on the brain made me sick |
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Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 11:44 AM by mtnsnake
K&Ring yours :thumbsup:
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:48 AM
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19. The important thing to note is how few Obama supporters recommended it. |
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Pro Obama threads and polls can get 100s of recs and votes here. The overwhelming majority of DU's Obama supporters did not rec that thread. That shows class.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:49 AM
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21. I see very few Obama supporters disagreeing with the thread. Very few. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:52 AM
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24. Sadly, not enough of us have |
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chimed in here, but give it time. And only 25 people rec'd the other thread. Too many but hardly the majority of regular Obama posters.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:00 PM
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26. That thread created a very bad impression of Obama in my mind. |
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I've always said that I will vote for either candidate. But threads like that....they're so divisive.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:06 PM
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31. the more I think about that thread, the more I dislike it |
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it's cloaked in a kind of pseudo-intellectual garb that's intended to make it more palatable or something. I can understand how it would leave you feeling disgusted with Obama supporters, but I'm not sure why you'd transfer that to Obama himself. I've seen posts here comparing Obama to Jim Jones and to to Hitler, by Clinton supporters, but I know Clinton has nothing to do with what posters on the internet do.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:08 PM
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32. That's what I keep telling myself. Obama didn't say it. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:59 PM
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58. Exactly. And the majority of his DU supporters didn't think it was 'greatest' material, |
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Important to remember that.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:45 AM
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:01 PM
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27. I saw that thread, and didn't want to go there... |
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Until this thread.
So I just got back from reading it, and immediately recommended here. This thread needs to be adjacent to that thread, IMHO.
The OP in that thread is just extremely clueless, I say that because the alternative is far too horrible to judge based one one post.
Needless to say, That post is repugnant. It needs to be locked, and it needs to drop to oblivion post haste.
Signed,
An Obama Supporter
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:05 PM
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You recognize that it's a lousy way to gather support for Obama.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:09 PM
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33. Wow, that's... out of control. I'm glad I didn't see that. |
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I honestly don't get this. Even if you don't like Clinton's policy proposals (which are pretty standard, and there's no chasm between her and Obama, as countless people have pointed out) and you prefer another candidate, what's with the demonization? I really do think that there's a bunch -- and not a fringe bunch, either, though it's become standard to dismiss them as such -- who think Hillary Clinton is the enemy here.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:10 PM
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34. oh yeah, and k&r. n/t |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:17 PM
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38. second thoughts are good:-) thank you |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:19 PM
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39. How low can we go? Pretty low, apparently. Really low. |
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And no apology from the OP. I asked him to clarify his statements and got stonewalled.
Just throw out a lynching reference and run. I've asked the admins to delete that OP.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:21 PM
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42. The OP wrote in that thread that his post was a reference to the Clinton campaign. |
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It's very clear. The OP compared the Clinton campaign to the lynching of black people.
I alerted on it as well and asked that it be deleted or locked. Instead, it's sitting on the Greatest Page.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:35 PM
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51. They take their time with those threads. |
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Anything anti-Obama gets the boot immediately.
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Tue Feb-26-08 07:29 PM
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61. The mods have had plenty of time. Evidently they approve. |
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No other conclusion can be made.
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Thu Feb-28-08 12:23 PM
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Tue Feb-26-08 07:32 PM
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63. o knock it off, or learn how to read things in context |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:21 PM
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41. obviously low enough to parachute off a dime |
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Thu Feb-28-08 09:12 AM
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72. I'll be borrowing that line. ROFL. But so true, DU has gone that low. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:22 PM
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44. That thread was disgusting |
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but no worse than half the shit I see here every day.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:26 PM
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45. I thought it was much worse than usual. |
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I might be biased. I studied African History and the history of the transatlantic slave trade. I read first-person accounts of the horrors of slavery and Jim Crow.
No matter how much a person might disdain Hillary Clinton, comparing her campaign to the systematic torture and murder of generations of people is totally over the line. It's a slap in the face not just to her campaign, but most of all to the millions of people who were victims of these horrors. It's a slap in the face to anyone who has ever fought against these horrors.
Such comparisons cheapen discourse to the point of meaningless. If Hillary Clinton is as bad as the Ku Klux Klan and her advisers are as bad as Nazis, then there must not be anything all that horrific in the world - the Klan and the Nazis are no worse than a Democratic campaign for president. That's the overall message and I abhor it.
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:29 PM
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:35 PM
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50. Excellent post. Thank you. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 12:48 PM
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53. Excellent post - this primary has raised the bar on "trivializing for points and profit" |
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Everything is used to score points, from the war in Iraq to human rights abuses to Gitmo to the KKK. We are given the signal for a insta-identification of victims, villains, and enemies. It does cheapen discourse, you're right. I'm not sure what means anything anymore.
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Tue Feb-26-08 01:03 PM
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59. Not only that, yardwork, but if the Senator Clinton and her campaign |
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are as bad as murdering/lynching KKK and murdering/torturing Nazis, then Republicans, by comparison, are better. I think that we are way beyond the looking-glass, here. This is approaching the level of Party destruction and no one seems to even be aware...
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Tue Feb-26-08 07:30 PM
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62. Good post, thank you. |
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Tue Feb-26-08 01:53 PM
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60. It is heartening to see some of the most highly respected |
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posters at DU standing up against the utterly vile posts that some are making.
Thanks for doing so.
I think there are a lot more positive people here than negative, it's just that the negative ones are really, really loud.
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:14 AM
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Its not too difficult to guess which candidate they support.
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Thu Feb-28-08 08:48 AM
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68. I am positive the mods have seen it. |
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Evidently it is allowed by DU rules.
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:19 AM
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66. I would ask for you to provide a link, but I don't want to see it. |
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As I said in another post, the race is basically over. And in spite of some concerns I harbor about Obama, I will fully and completely get behind Obama as the nominee and will support and vote for him.
But of course, I have to have people spit on me right before I do so. Because I supported Hillary Clinton. Because I participated in a "lynching".
Really goddamned nice.
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Wed Feb-27-08 09:30 AM
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Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 09:34 AM by independentpiney
The author of that other op writes many very thoughtful, interesting posts. That wasn't one of them to say the least. It didn't deserve recs for the content and shouldn't get recs simply because of the authors good standing on DU.
And I am an Obama supporter.
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Thu Feb-28-08 08:53 AM
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69. I didn't see, and am glad I didn't. |
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I am disappointed at any message of hate. We can debate without getting defamatory.
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