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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:01 PM Original message |
When, and more importantly, why did Democrats begin to hate the Clintons |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't hate them, but they lost my trust with Travelgate |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. It's COMMON practice to replace people with your OWN people |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Billy Dale had run that office since Jack Kennedy hired him in 1960 |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You are saying that Billy Dale lost his home and his retirement. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Yes -- because he was framed on trumped up, non existant charges |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. If only they had replaced |
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Penndems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Travelgate started under Bush 41 |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Which is why he was exhonorated? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. he was found not guilty |
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Penndems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. The Clintons weren't found "dirty", Yael |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. She DID vote for the war |
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SoFlaJet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. we will never "hate" the Clintons |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Party lost a lot of seats when Bill was President |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. i think that was not Bill's fault |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. He signed the Telecommunications Act |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. yes he did. |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. I don't hate |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. so he should have leaned further right to avoid this? nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. The war on Iraq. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. When they used their position to amass power for themselves rather than build up the party |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Most cogent argument made to date |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm trying to understand this as well. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't hate the Clintons |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. Democrats tend to be hyper-critical of their candidates & elected officials |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hmm..finally got the White House back after 12 years...how quickly |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. The congressional corruption did hurt. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:08 PM Original message |
when Obama gained a halo nt |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. No many turned to Obama because |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. You're right... |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. We have big challenges ahead of |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. ditto |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I agree with you so much. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. that's not what the question was |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Not from me! |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I would vote for DK too |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Me TOO!! |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Your assumption is wrong. |
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k8conant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. When did Hillary stop liking the war? about 2 months ago? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't hate them. They both lost my trust in the 1990's |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. I don't hate the Clintons. I worked for Bill in 1992 and I was pretty |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. when they started acting just like Republicans just for another shot at the Big Time |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
66. And that was back in October, |
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COFoothills (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
15. Don't hate them...never will... |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. For me.... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. When the female half of the partnership |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's not about hate. It's about divisive politics and poor judgement. |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. A lot of the posts here lately seem to be about hate. n/t |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. Don't turn this on me! |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. First off, it's not the Clintons |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't hate the Clintons |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. I wouldn't say its hate. |
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politicaholic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hate is the wrong word I think... |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. I've pondered this question a lot lately. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. For me |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. I think the first thing was NAFTA. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. Still don't hate her but she lost all my respect. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
38. I don't hate them, I just dislike them and would like to hold our elected officials to higher |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. It goes back to NAFTA, excluding the grass roots from Hill's secret health care meetings, the |
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Middle finga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
41. I don't hate her but I don't like her. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. You sure nailed that one. |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. Voting for Obama does not mean I hate the Clintons |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. Speaking for myself, I love Bill Clinton, but can't stand Hillary. I had my doubts about.... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
48. somewhere during the nearly 2 decade long media hate blitz.. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
50. I think that the unmitigated disaster of the past 7 years |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. When the "lesbian Hildabeast" decided to stay with her "cheating husband"... |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. I didn't like Bill because he moved the party to the center. Hillary for that and other reasons |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. I don't hate the Clintons. I'm just tired of them in the White House. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
62. The results of NAFTA and Media Dergulation of '96 that came home to roost after |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
63. People always find others to blame for their own failures. Some Democrats are no different. n/t |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. Deleted. Meant as a reply to a thread, not the OP |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
67. bottom line: dems are suceptible to media spin just like anybody else. nt |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
68. I don't hate the Clintons. I'll always be grateful |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
69. Why is 'not my choice' 'hatred'? |
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MzShellG (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
70. They lost my trust when they started hanging with Bush....and defending W on Iraq. |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
71. South Carolina |
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Obamaman2008 (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. When she stopped being honest nt |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
74. Reading these replies, I would hate to be Obama.... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
76. It's the war, stupid.. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. January, 2008: New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina did it for me. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
79. NAFTA and Outsourcing.... n/t |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
80. Iowa |
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