Exultant Democracy
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:21 PM
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Here is a hug for any Clinton supporter who saw the "Red Phone" commercial today |
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Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 06:23 PM by LeviathanCrumbling
:hug:I'm sorry that your candidate is partaking in the same type of low brow fear mongering that we have been decrying for the last 6 years.
For what it is worth I don't put all the blame on Hillary, I think most of it should go to the totally incompetent and immoral team that Mark Penn put together for her.
The sooner this is over the sooner Mark Penn and his boys will stop defiling the Clinton legacy.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:22 PM
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1. Is Giuliani advising the campaign now? |
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That can't be good! :shrug:
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:35 PM
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17. Giuliani's advisors did endorse her campaigns Double Giuliani Gambit. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:23 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:40 PM
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25. Now they even respond to criticism like republicans |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:47 PM
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34. Hit the nail right on the head. |
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They are desperate so they look the masters of desperations.
I urge Hillery Supporters to call for her to stop this madness now. Yes I am fully willing to see her do poorly in Texas and Ohio where she will need double digit leads for this continue. However, Out of my tiny tiny bit of respect for Clinton I think she needs to be given the chance to stop this now.
Please ask her to stop this!
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:24 PM
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3. Keep your hug. I like the ad. |
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Anyone who doesn't look at their candidate in terms of ability to lead in case of emergency is a fool.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:24 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:36 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 11:35 PM
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45. oh, my deepest apologies, english isn't my first language |
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i'm one of them immigrants
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Sat Mar-01-08 01:03 AM
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Sat Mar-01-08 11:55 AM
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48. it's "as am I", with an "m" |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:26 PM
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7. Must not be much of an emergency if she won't ANSWER THE DAMN PHONE |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:30 PM
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10. Do you understand that it was a fear-based negitive attack ad? It's called getting in the mud |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:58 PM
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38. Its not a negative attack ad. Shes not attacking ANYONE. |
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Shes advocating that people think about the ability of the candidates to handle the unforeseen.
Are you telling me that you haven't assessed the candidates ability to handle national emergencies?
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Fri Feb-29-08 07:11 PM
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40. This is a negitive fear based attack ad .Are you familiar with the Daisy Girl ad? Same thing. |
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Not to mention that Clinton's people already said that they were going negative this week and this is the crown jewel in their "Kitchen Sink Attack."
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Fri Feb-29-08 07:25 PM
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41. Ads about valid issues aren't attack ads. She isn't attacking him. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 07:38 PM
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42. Sorry there are only a few categories of political ads, there is no question as to what type it is. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:32 PM
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12. What ability to lead?!?! |
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Every display of so called leadership Clinton has had has been an unmitigated disaster. From her botched health care task force to her completely inempt campaign, Clinton has shown repeatedly that she is NOT someone who has sound judgement or even marginal leadership ability.
I have yet to see one example where Hillary has lead, taken a risk, shown sound judgement that countered conventional wisdom and she's had her supposed 35 years to do so.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:24 PM
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4. That was pretty dumb if you think about it... |
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Why run an ad that would give your opponent the opportunity to attack you on your weakest point - the Iraq War???
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:26 PM
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6. When has Hillary Clinton |
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shown any evidence that she's prepared to handle an emergency with a calm cool head.
FFS, she called a press conference and basically challenged Barack to a duel over some campaign fliers.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:28 PM
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9. You can't get it together to run a planned national campaign how |
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are you going to lead in a emergency?
I liked Hillary at one time but either Barack is that good or she is that bad, which is it?
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:33 PM
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13. She was ready on day one to win the whitehouse. She needed a plan for day two but she wasn't ready. |
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I guess that goes to show what all of her years of political experience is worth.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:31 PM
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11. Not just the Iraq war... |
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it gives undecided voters the chance to ponder Hillary's actions over the past few weeks.
Calm...cool...collected?
Try bi-polar.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:26 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:34 PM
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Oh, what I'd do for a real PC. :)
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:35 PM
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15. She obviously has the experience and leadership, just ignore that whole IWR thing! |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:36 PM
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19. yes, past time to drop it. its over. all that is left is your's and others constant whining1 |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:40 PM
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24. A decision that contributed to the loss of thousands of lives and billions of dollars. No thanks! |
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Goodbye Hillary! You will never achieve the presidency, and rightfully so!
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:41 PM
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26. No taking your own adice I see. Oh well. Whin away |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:35 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:36 PM
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20. Let's not scapegoat Mark Penn. |
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It's Hillary's campaign, she's got to take responsibility for her failures.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:37 PM
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21. "Fear mongering." LOL |
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It's a valid question.
The world IS dangerous. We DO have an enemy. I know some people here don't think we do, and I'm not going to argue that point with people who don't believe we have threats facing us.
The question of who you'd rather have in the Oval Office is a valid one. I haven't been a Hillary fan throughout this campaign, but this ad is one of her best so far, in my opinion.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:38 PM
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22. You're either with Clinton or the terrorists. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:42 PM
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28. You either love Obama |
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or you hate hope and change and hope and change and hope and change and...
:cry:
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:44 PM
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31. So you agree with me? |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:47 PM
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The Obama campaign is about hope and change and hope and change and hope and change and hope and change.
Stop me before I start weeping and get faint over this magnificent hope and change candidate. But don't ask me about his experience and knowledge! I'll be too busy weeping and fainting over him.
Yes, we agree.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:39 PM
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reason why I'd want Hillary to be the one answering that phone.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:41 PM
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If you'd rather have a "community organizer" from Chicago answering it, I'm not expecting much else from you.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:43 PM
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29. Thank you. I thought it was good also. The term fear mong..is too overused and |
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abused. made fun of when there are threats out there!
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:45 PM
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32. Yep. There are some among us who don't think |
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there are threats. They think it's all made up. Their ability to ignore the reality of this speaks volumes about their approach to picking a candidate -- and look who they pick.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:52 PM
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36. Yes it gets overused when it suddenly is turned on Clinton. |
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This is almost getting dizzying! Thankfully the people of Texas and Ohio are seeing this crap and hopefully will respond.
In case you have not noticed.. People are being tired by some higher up that they must be afraid of the boogyman. Just because Clinton is a dem does not mean she gets a pass for taking a play out of the republican playbook.
I know there are threats so does the United States which has had that line shoved down their throats since Bush took office.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:44 PM
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30. The jury has been out on this since LBJ putting little children in an ad and threating disaster |
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is about as low as you can go. The only played the Daisy ad once before they pulled it, how many times has Clinton run this ad already?
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:46 PM
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33. The jury is out? You mean people haven't decided? |
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Doesn't seem that way to me.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:53 PM
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37. Yeah you would think that is what I was getting at, too bad I mixed up my idioms. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:59 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 07:40 PM
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Only Obamaniacs see anything wrong with that ad. :eyes:
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Fri Feb-29-08 08:20 PM
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44. If this was 02, 04, or 06 who would be running an ad just like that? |
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To answer my own question it would be the republicans not the Democrats.
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Sat Mar-01-08 01:22 AM
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47. You must be joking... |
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I'm a D.K. supporter and couldn't give a rats ass whether Hillary Obama or Barack Clinton wins.
The fact that ANYONE here is justifying this ad is mind boggling.
This is exactly the kind of crap you expect from Rethugs.
"Vote for me, or your children will die a horrible death while they sleep."
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Sat Mar-01-08 11:58 AM
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49. Talking about national security = fear mongering |
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nice political spin from Obama...but, he is good with words after all. We can expect pretty words from him.
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