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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:25 AM
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Potential running mates according to the AP
http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20040405/D81OF8RG0.html


Potential running mates most often mentioned by Democrats interviewed by The Associated Press are:

_North Carolina Sen. John Edwards. Kerry's final major rival in the primary race is mentioned by virtually all after a relentlessly upbeat campaign that impressed many. Working against him is the difficulty of making an argument for change with two senators on the ticket. Edwards told reporters last week, "I don't think we ought to prejudge" a decision by Kerry.

_Bob Kerrey. The former Nebraska governor and senator is, like Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran. Though he has impressed many with his work on the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, Kerrey has said he's not interested in joining the ticket. Retired Gen. Wesley Clark would also burnish the ticket's military credentials.

_Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. Adding gender balance to the list, she also is a moderate elected in a Republican state and could offer Kerry a bridge to groups like the Democratic Leadership Council.

_William Cohen. The Maine Republican served in the Senate, then as defense secretary under Clinton. His selection could be seen as a bold stroke and a nod toward bipartisanship.

_Virginia Gov. Mark Warner. A fresh face after winning election in 2002, Warner could help in important Southern states. Like all governors, he has struggled with budget problems, and his plan to close the deficit relies partially on tax increases.

_New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson. He would bring a Hispanic flavor and a nod to the nation's largest and fastest-growing minority. A former U.N. ambassador, Richardson also would provide foreign policy experience.

_Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack. He is in the middle of his second term in a state that narrowly went Democratic in 2000. He has pledged not to seek a third term and has left little doubt about his interest in higher office.

_Rep. Dick Gephardt. The longtime Missouri congressman saw his bid for the nomination fade early, but he maintains strong ties to organized labor. There is pressure on his behalf.

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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:31 AM
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1. Shhhhhh...
AP rule #1: Whatever you do, don't mention General Clark!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:32 AM
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2. Well, he is mentioned in the Bob Kerrey line, but you have to look for it.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:38 AM
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4. So he is.
Of course, not too apparent for those who would skim the names (like me :)).
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 02:45 PM
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21. But you still made a good point Sadiesworld
I repeat, no way Kerry wins without ClarK.

Does anyone have info on Pres. 2004 fundraising, by quarter, or month?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:44 AM
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5. He was mentioned
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 07:44 AM by bowens43
and the mention was much more then he deserves. If we're going to go with a right winger let's at least chose someone with some relevant experience.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:48 AM
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7. What makes him a right winger?
His progressive tax ideas? His environmental concerns? Do tell.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:54 AM
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8. Wow
You'd think that the baseless, mindless lies would have ended after he dropped out of the campaign.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:31 AM
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12. Me thinks you should run on over to Clark's website
and do a little reading. Then come back and give the Clark supporters a much deserved apology. People shouldn't talk with a mouth full of marbles.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:17 PM
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32. You know he's not a right winger
You know he has relevant experience.

Why continue this baseless attacking? It's very tiresome.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:11 PM
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16. They did mention Clark only once.
n/t
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 02:23 PM
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18. That ticked me off!
After reading stories that make no mention of Clark's existence on this Earth, I was surprised to find a mention, and yet he doesn't even get his own bullet.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:56 PM
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38. wes would do us no favors because media doesn't like him
I was a clark guy but i am not sure that he would be a good choice with the media bias against him being so obvious.
We need to pick someone who the media will get down on their knees for and pleasure nonstop. Does such a candidate exist, probably not in this KROVE induced media world.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 02:43 PM
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20. RE: Shhhhhhh!
You said it Sadiesworld, whatever you do, don't mention General Clark!
Whoa, that was a close one! Operation Ignore continues.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:36 AM
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3. Kerry/Kerry....has a certain ring to it. My choices:
Kerry/Edwards
Kerry/Clark
Kerry/Richardson
Kerry/Graham

I am willing to support ANY ticket that will beat *. ABB.

Call me wishy-washy....I don't care. Bush* - worst president ever.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:47 AM
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6. So we can't discuss Hillary today?
:-)
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:05 AM
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9. The problem is
we've got so many damn great :kick: choices :) !
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:59 AM
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14. Not on THIS list we don't!
OK, Edwards himself is not that bad, but 2 senators on a ticket is suicidal.

Bridge to the DLC?? Shit, the DLC not only has the bridge, but they stole the land on both sides of it.

Cohen? can we say P-N-A-C ?? I don't fucking think so!

Would it be too much to fucking ask to have someone on the ticket who is not a globalist fascist warmongering asshole??
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:50 AM
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15. Okay :) n/t
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:28 PM
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24. Was Cohen sec. of defense 1st or second Clinton term? n/t
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:36 PM
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26. 2nd term
And he was a total disaster. No way Cohen has a prayer of being VP.

LOL--I bet there aren't many things Kerry could do to get Wes Clark to stop campaigning for him, but that might be the one. Before making a pass at Gert! ;)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:29 PM
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25. Yet we can't seem to find one from Ohio...
If they only had a popular long serving dem governor there, we'd have another big advantage in this election.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:22 PM
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33. How about Jerry Springer?
He's from Ohio :evilgrin:
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:28 PM
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34. don't know much about ohio.
what you're saying makes sense, but i'm gathering you, like myself, don't know anyone from ohion who fits the bill. perhaps, someone here does.
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Per DU copyright rules
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Thank you.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:43 AM
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13. Can't access the message any more to edit it. :(
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:27 AM
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11. They left out Ed Rendell...
n/t
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:16 PM
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17. I guarantee you it won't be Kerrey
For one thing, a Kerry/Kerrey ticket is just too weird.

In addition, Kerrey serves on the 9/11 commission. The report is expected to be released sometime this summer. Kerrey's credibility would be undermined by accepting a spot on the ticket.

Kerrey's from Nebraska, which Bush will easily carry.

And finally, Kerrey is probably the Democrat who has been most receptive to social security privatization proposals.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:52 PM
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27. he's also a fucking war criminal
no way. the fact that the */Cheney ticket has 2 war criminals on it doesn't mean it's OK for us to add one just because we'd have less.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:58 PM
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30. Do you think all Vietnam vets are war criminals?
I think its time you put all your cards on the table.

If DU'ers wonder why the American public is predisposed to trust Republicans on national security, I suggest that sentiments such as those expressed by ButterflyBlood are one of the reasons.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:30 PM
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35. no, otherwise I'd count Kerry as one
however Kerry didn't slaughter a villiage full of civilians like Kerrey did.

Hell, one of my punk music magazines had an interview with a band where one of the members has taught at the university Kerrey runs now. And in it, he calls Kerrey a war criminal.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:34 PM
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37. Bob Kerrey has been credibly linked to a massacre of civilians
And this would only get more coverage if he is nominee.

On thw whole I'd call this a pretty piss-poor list..all DLC except fopr the one actual Republican.

hopefully it is a ruse...
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 02:25 PM
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19. This is the first time I've heard Gov. Sebelius's name.
Sounds attractive on paper - a Governor from a Southern state to balance a Senator from a northern state. Could she carry Kansas for us? What about Colorado and Missouri? Those three would be a treasure trove of EV's. And being DNC doesn't bother me - all the better politically, in my opinion, and that's my first goal.

Anyone know anything on this person?
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:36 PM
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22. Governor Sebelius from a Southern state??!
LOL!! Kansas is the original abolitionist state. That's the main reason it's historically Republican.

I live in KS, but grew up in GA. Heck, in the REAL south, they don't even think of Missouri or Arkansas as southern states.

OK, now that I'm done rolling on the floor, I will say Kathleen Sebelius is a great Democrat. But she's not ready for VP. She's only mid-way thru her first term as governor. Before that she was the insurance commissioner. Her time is coming, but it ain't now.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:04 PM
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23. Clark adds balance on more than one level
1. Brings National Security and Foreign Policy experience to the ticket. Supposedly Kerry's weak point and the *'s strong point. Clark would reduce * to rubble on this point.

2. Clark is from the south and did well in NM, AZ and of course won OK, Clark is very well liked and respected in Ohio because of the Dayton Accords

3. Clark has a well put together fund raising group that has stayed together since after his exit from the primaries.

4. Clark had and has a following of moderate Repukes and swing voters, the term Regan Democrats was used repeatedly in the begining stages of his cmpaign

5. He is a Washington insider who does not owe anything to anyone on Washington so he can not be labeled as "business as usual"

6. Clark is the candidate that was able to bring up his faith and use it in his campaign which appeals to moderate Chrisitians

7. He is smart, articulate and has a certain amount of appeal because he is a good looking man who is easy to listen to and look at, as sad as that is in this country looks count.

8. I have a biased view and proud of it.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:55 PM
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28. Terrific analysis, Nashyra
I agree completely, & couldn't have put it better myself.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:58 PM
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29. Bill Cohen is a Repug
& was not a good Sec of Defense.

What does he bring to the ticket? Besides, he's from Maine!
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:00 PM
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31. If Kerry's going to choose a Republican, it would be McCain
Not that I think McCain would be offered the slot (or would accept if offered).
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:41 PM
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36. Edwards is the clear front-runner, at this point.
I like Clark a lot, and I like several of the other names being floated, but it's as clear to me as the nose on my face that edwards is the front-runner for the VP nod.
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