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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:31 PM
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Would You Support Any Dem Candidate?
That agreed with you on every issue EXCEPT Abortion?

Let's say this fictional Dem towed the Progressive line straight down the path, except held Sen. McCain's view on Abortion -- only in the case of rape, incest, or danger to the mother, and none of the so called "partial birth" abortions?


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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:34 PM
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1. dennis kucinich ? he is now prochoice
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:36 PM
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2. and mccain is prochoice when it comes to his daughters
he said if his daughter wanted an abortion he would accept the decision and support her.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 03:34 PM
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21. McCain is personally pro-life but doesn't...
Believe in government involvement.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:50 PM
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3. Sorry, I don't do litmus tests
I have voted for anti-choice Democrats, and even pro-NAFTA Democrats before. And, given the demographics of my state, I may have to again.

I'm not a single-issue voter. Therefore, even though there may be issues that are important to me, I do not base my vote solely on a candidates' position on one issue.

And, BTW, if Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern were running today, did you know they'd both be considered "pro-life" by NARAL? Al Gore was a solid "pro-life" vote in the Senate until 1988, when he first ran for president. Dick Gephardt was also solidly "pro-life" too, until 1988 (when he also ran for president).
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:13 PM
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4. The abortion issue isn't even on my radar screen at the moment.
Getting neocon shitbag corruption out of the government is. That's my "litmus test" currently.
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:35 PM
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5. So, would having a Republican on the ticket be a problem for you? /nt
If he/she agreed with Dems on most subjects?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 03:36 PM
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22. Once again, McCain is personally pro-life...
But doesn't believe in government involvement (at least until the third trimester).
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:44 AM
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6. yeah
but not without my reservations
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ChrisNYC Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:50 AM
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7. Yes, but
I live in NY, where abortion will remain legal even if they overturn Roe v Wade. While it may seem insane, I actually generally support the states' rights argument, although I do feel certain fundamental rights are protected from government interference. (Abortion included, IMO) My biggest problem would be with Supreme Court nominees, as I think it would be very difficult to find a progressive judge that opposed Roe. To the extent one could be found, I would take that Dem in a second over W. Then again, I would never vote 3rd party except in a lost cause. (Such as when I voted for Golisano for NY Gov because he supported legalization of drugs and Pataki was winning by 20 points)

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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:44 AM
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8. Yes, the only single issue
to me is getting rid of the repugs.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:47 AM
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9. Interesting question
Will my not voting for this fictional Democrat mean I'm helping a guy who's toeing the GOP line win? Are there other options, etc.?

I don't think of myself as a single-issue voter, but I gotta tell ya, messing with half the population's control over their bodies might be a dealkiller for me. Although if the other guy's worse on everything else, it might be a "hold yer nose" vote.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:04 AM
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10. Most of the time.
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 06:05 AM by ih8thegop
Abortion is one of many factors in my decisions on for whom to vote.

I'm more concerned about the economy, the environment, healthcare, etc.
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 05:08 AM
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11. Depends
If I can't find a better candidate on the abortion issue who is otherwise comparable, I probably would.

However, I'd be very reluctant to vote for anyone who opposed stem cell research.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:39 PM
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12. Not just a theoretical question
We elected Democratic congressman Mike Michaud up here in Maine. He is 100% along the party line in very way - except abortion. He happens to be strictly pro-life. The truly interesting thing about his election is that his Republican challenger was a pro-choice fiscal conservative (One of those RINO's we're famous for up here in Maine. The campaign was fascinating to watch because of the huge crossover on both sides regarding endorsements. (The Christian Civic League endorsed Michaud, the Maine chapter of NOW endorsed the republican)
In the end, Maine sent a Democrat to Washington, but lost a vote on the side of choice.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:51 PM
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13. if my only other option was voting for Bush, yes
if you are talking presidential candidate. I think it would be a sorry state of affairs if both candidates were anti-choice though.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:03 PM
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14. Yeah
This seems like the view of the Catholic liberal dem, points in case are Dennis Kucinich before he was pro choice, former Michigan rep David Bonior, Wisconsin Rep David Obey, and others. These guys tend to be more moderate on cultural issues but very liberal economically and on foreign policy, so the answer is yes. I like these types of politicans.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 02:26 AM
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18. we are a big party
the abortion rights issue is very important to me and it would affect my decision in deciding who to support. but i would never accuse any of those guys you listed as being like jerry falwell or other similar right wing figures. and at least kucinich, bonior, and obey support using government to help those who need it such as pregnant women who need health care and other women who can't afford to raise their kids. this is unlike republicans who often are anti choice but then they don't even want to help the pregnant women or the kids that are born.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:45 PM
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23. its important to me
but you're right, they are not like Falwell or the right. These types of dem are generally very liberal economically, however some blue dog dems, conservative dems is generally what a blue dog is are generally southern and more conservative economically so I would prefer the liberal catholic view. I thought this was the view of my grandparents but now apparently they are pro choice. I'd take the pro life dem over a pro choice republican honest.
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DietVanillaCoke Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:05 PM
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15. I Don't Think...
I don't think that a president's anti-abortion stance would result in any change significant changes in abortion rights. I can't imagine a Dem candidate actively seeking to outlaw abortion, as that would no doubt alienate his or her base.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:03 PM
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16. I could support Anti Choice candidates in some races
but not for President. The president nominates to the SC and we can't lose Roe. If the candidate were anti choice but promised to place pro choice justices, I could consider it... but even that is a stretch.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 02:14 AM
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17. Who's the opponent?
Abortion rights are very important to me, I'd have a very difficult time voting for someone who wasn't pro-choice. I'm even peeved at these "partial birth" people who haven't fought to get the truth of that procedure out to the public.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 02:50 AM
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19. Would I vote for a moderate on social issues,
who is very liberal on economic issues?

Yes.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:14 PM
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20. Of course. If I wouldn't, I'd be no different than the one-issue Rethugs
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Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:31 PM
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24. Well, Is There A Single, Absolute Issue Dividing The Right From The Left?
It seemed to me as if the right of choice would do it, but not one response was an unequivocal "NO"

What one single issue, without a doubt, separates a Dem from a non-Dem?

Or is the only such issue the matter of what that little line reads on your voter registration card?
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