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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:33 PM Original message |
So, how's the "Let's all hate Nader" thing working for you folks? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. My suggestion |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't you think there are bigger problems.... |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Those of us who don't want * to become a real dictator, that's who. |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Then make sure that Sen. Kerry appeals to the voters. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I can't make Kerry be anything other than what he is. |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Then don't blame Nader, should Kerry lose |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I blame Nader for what he does |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. That's true. I think his point was blaming Nader for what he DOESN'T do. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I disagree |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I disagree |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Right, and focusing on ElectionTheft2000 |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Maybe becuase it IS the issue, ya think? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. No, I don't |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. If you don't like the way I frame the issue, post your own thread. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. If I want to post in this thread, I will |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Then quit bitching because I didn't frame the question YOUR way. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Nope |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. I didn't say quit posting. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Nope |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Knock yourself out. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. Let's get this straight. If Nader had dropped out in Florida, |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Nope. |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. What do you mean by "empirical evidence?" |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. This one |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Agreed. Assumptions are not empirical. They are contrary |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I don't know, frankly. |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Frankly, I would like to hear Nader address the |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. Nader was responsible in part |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. I seem to remeber having corrected you on this once before |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. True enough. I don't have any special insight. But your |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Huh? |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. It doesn't make much sense, however, that a "Green" would vote for Bush. |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. If we democrats believe that Nader will take more votes from Bush, |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. what brilliant political strategy |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
79. Who is this person? |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Why don't you get real? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Deleted message |
Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
115. You don't *know* that. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You mean "Nadir" ?? ... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. THERE'S a unique joke. n/t |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. A Lot of Us |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Nader did not make the ballot in Oregon. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. He even failed ... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I'm pretty sure St. Ralph is on FLA ballot |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That sucks. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
45. small minds have little room for fact |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. So vote for Bush for all I care |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. I don't hate him, but I do think he should be forcefully rebutted when |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. I don't hate him either. In fact, I love him |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
95. How do you manage to ridicule him without looking incompetent? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #95 |
108. So why aren't you running for President? |
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lastknowngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. Lovin' it it works for me. |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Does it help you register new Democrats? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. It's helped me |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Well, |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. blah, blah, blah |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #43 |
109. Go Ahead |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. success is how you measure it |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Well, I guess some CAN argue with success |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
103. good post. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. *hurriedly launders asbestos boxers* |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. LOL! |
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( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. I Like Ralph Nader |
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LiberalManiacfromOC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Same here |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't disagree with anything you've said |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 07:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. That much I agree with. |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 08:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The differences grow smaller |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 08:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Pray tell, enlighten us, knowledgeable one. |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. The bigger picture |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Does that bigger picture include images of poor people? |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Poor people are the focus of that view. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. No, poor people are the focus of their blather |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Right. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. The left's circular firing squad at wrok again |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I never said it was a bad thing. |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I'm leaving for the weekend |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. "There's no need for charity if there is no poverty. " |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
107. I think I see what you're saying: |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Actually, that's your argument |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Okay, then, back to the original topic: |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. Thank you for the most logical "Nader" argument I've seen... |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Thank you. |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Ding Ding Ding !! |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
30. I do not hate Nader. I just disagree with its strategy. |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I agree it's ill-advised. |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I think we should try, calmy, to convince his potential supporters |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. MUCH more productive use of time, I'd say. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
49. Good post CL... and here's the key right here..... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. and technically |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Sad ...... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. yes it is sad... |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. I could respond tit for tat ... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. awww c'mon....petty needs? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Yes, petty needs |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
96. Perhaps she just assumed that Kerry's flaws were pretty obvious |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:23 AM Response to Reply #96 |
111. So now Mr Toad speaks for others |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
112. Sangh and Trajan |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
57. I have a lot of respect for you CL, |
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NightTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
62. Couldn't have put it better myself! |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You can see that denial in posts to this thread. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. can't even imagine there IS another truth besides their version.... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. So aside from YOUR version, which other versions are truthful |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
75. Campaigns have lots of problems, |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. What right do we have to ask anyone to drop out? |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Who wants to focus on blame? I simply want Nader to get his |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. 'Intuitively obvious'? |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. I said "intuitively obvious EVEN TO THE MOST CASUAL |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I'm more than a casual observer, and it is not 'intuitively obvious' to me |
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balanced (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
86. I would like to hear Nader say, "What have I done?" |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #86 |
116. Your *opinion* of what 'the right thing' is differs from Nader's, I'd wage |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
87. Nader has no chance to win, Reality 101... |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. i've driven a corvair,that's how i know nader is wrong. |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Dear me, I hope you have more to go on than that |
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BeachBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
114. How's it going? Not bad actually.... |
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jadesfire (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
117. Nader has done some good... |
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