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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:47 PM
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So now we defend Fox News appearances.
Obama, goes on a well known racist, xenophobic, GOP propaganda network because they called him a chicken with their little "Obama" clock. Reminds me of McFly.

Hillary, the supposed champion of women everywhere legitimizes the "news" program of a known sexual predator who was rich enough to make his little "problem" silently go away, for only a few million dollars.

And both of them in one form or another are defended on DU. Un-fucking-believable.


Psst FOX IS THE REAL ENEMY.... Nothing good can come from appearing on a propaganda network. Nothing.

I have an idea, why don't we just give up. We're doing everything the GOP wants, we are being played like fools and we are blaming each other. Sad..
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:49 PM
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1. On. The. Money . nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:50 PM
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2. Deleted by moron who wrote it. Delusional....Sorry
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 07:56 PM by cliffordu
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:51 PM
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3. Of course
Because we all know Hillary was gonna whoop some GOP ass on the good ol O'really show. :rofl: :rofl:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:04 PM
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27. Just like Obama did.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:05 PM
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30. Which is why I'm taking them and DU'ers
who defend this to task.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:52 PM
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4. I won't defend it. I can only hope they stop doing this sh!t
because I'm hanging on to the Obama campaign by a thread as it is.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:53 PM
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9. Know what you mean. If an independant party were a viable
option I'd be looking at it.

I knew you wouldn't defend it. No real liberal would. :toast:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:52 PM
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5. There you go, pisses me off as well. So, let Fox keep their little countdown clock
on how many days or whatever that Obama was supposed to appear. How many new voters do you think he got from the Fox watchers. Then the other candidate follow and goes on Jerk Bills show, unfucking believable. Look at the WSJ article about the latest poll showing over 70% of the country thinks we are going in the wrong direction but yet McCain is almost tied with either dem candidate.

All I can hope is that we get it together soon.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:53 PM
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6. Yep, I am totally disappointed with both candidates for doing that....
They certainly are the enemy and have been for the last (almost) 8 years. I don't think that either candidate exercised very good judgment with respect to this.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:53 PM
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7. Who was first on Fox?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:55 PM
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12. That's your excuse?
Please... If Hillary was all you think she is she would have denounced Obama's appearance and not gone on. Instead she went one further and went on O'Reilly, the worst of the worst. Keep fooling yourself.
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:59 PM
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18. Childish
I used to say that stuff when I was 8! "He did it firts!" lol
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:00 PM
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20. So Obama was judging from the whiiiinnnnnneeeee.
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:02 PM
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24. ??????????
Huh?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:09 PM
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36. Forget it...
The words "a few cards short of a deck" come to mind... Also the word TROLL.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:13 PM
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39. Confucius said...
Not to enlighten a man who can be enlightened is to waste a man. To endeavor to enlighten a man who cannot be enlightened is to waste words. A wise man wastes neither his man nor his words.

Probably not exact, but you get my drift.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:02 PM
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25. Johnny did it first! Neener neener!
:puke:

Fourth grade yet?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:53 PM
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8. i won't defend any democrat that goes on Faux, there is no need to dance with that devil, Faux
needs to marginalized.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:54 PM
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10. silly - it's aparently OK only if "saint" obama does it...!!!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:56 PM
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14. Really.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:01 PM
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23. So the fact that I made sure to include both Obama and Hillary
in my rant makes no difference to you? Are you that fucking brainwashed? Christ I'm starting to think there is something to this whole "cult" thing. Or is it a pathological need to see only what you want to see? And why is it only Hillary supporters seem to think this thread is only about her, Obama supporters seem to get it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:03 PM
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26. Pssst... Kool Aid Poisoning...
Severe case...
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:45 PM
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48. Obamalade.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:56 PM
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50. Doh!
:rofl:


Good one... That's not to say Hillary doesn't have her own brand;)
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:44 PM
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47. I give you credit for trying, but, ultimately, you couldn't control yourself:
"Instead she went one further and went on O'Reilly, the worst of the worst."

Him hit me first.

Her hit me harder.

Wah!
:cry:
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:57 PM
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15. Who said it was ok if O did it?
What I have read seems to indicate we are in agreement that NEITHER candidat should have done it. Did I miss something?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:59 PM
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19. Are you fucking blind or just stupid? Try reading my post
Before you embarrass yourself again
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:06 PM
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32. Walldude, just forget it, you tried.
:toast:
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:55 PM
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11. This is way too doctrinaire for me; we don't need no steenkin' roolz from you
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:57 PM
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16. LOL Rules... what are you fucking kidding?
GDP and the primary are fucking loony bins, no rules are going to help us. I'm just stating my opinion.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:55 PM
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13. The difference is...
...Obama appears to have been goaded into going on, while Hillary seems to be requesting her appearances. I don't support either, but one does seem worse than the other
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:58 PM
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17. Why shouldn't either of them speak wherever they want to? Fox reaches a lot of voters
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:04 PM
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The Fox News network reaches no one that votes for a progressive
candidate. Fox's audience is compromised of the 20% of people who still support Bush. A study has shown that watching Fox news actually makes you dumber.

Do you really believe that a Fox News viewer will vote for Obama or Hillary? Then you don't know Fox News. They exist for one reason, to push the agenda of the GOP.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:08 PM
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34. I watch Fox. Never supported Bush.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:11 PM
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37. And you believe what you see on there?
Then I can't help you. :rofl:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:36 PM
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43. I did not ask for your help.
I'm quite capable of separating truth from lies.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:07 PM
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33. Yes!!!
Finally, a voice or reason.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:16 PM
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41. One day when you aren't so full of yourself try watching the movie
Outfoxed.. while all us unreasonable people wallow in our knowledge of exactly what Fox is.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:37 PM
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44. I know what Fox is
my pop always said "know what your enemy is thinking and planning."
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:42 PM
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46. Hey mine too,
he also said not to trust them. Too bad neither candidate was raised by my dad. Maybe they would have thought twice about legitimizing them..
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:59 PM
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51. Sounds like our Dad's were similar.
Smart, honest, hard working men. A handshake was my Dad's contract. I miss him very much. I miss what he could have taught me.
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:00 PM
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21. Like being slightly pregnant
Both were wrong.
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:05 PM
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31. Right
...but Obama was facing a much bigger shitstorm than Hillary has all campaign. I believe that he was pulling out all the stops on the "damage control" express. The worst Hillary faced was sniper fire, right? What's her excuse? Haha!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:04 PM
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28. The point being... both should have been stronger
than to do this... stupid, stupid, stupid... neither can really be trusted... but either can be trusted more than McCain... we're doomed.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:18 PM
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42. Is that your own personal opinion or do you have a link?
"Hillary seems to be requesting her appearances." I personally THINK she was invited and didn't go looking for that interview. But she was really great according to my opinion and ALL the pundits.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:01 PM
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22. Welcome to the light, walldude!
Now you are getting it! "We" have swallowed the GOP Kool Aid in massive gulps! They have "Us" parroting their bullshit!

Whew... so good not to be alone.

I'll support the Dem in the GE... but I really can't stand either of our candidates much anymore. They are now only slightly better than McCain in my book... I'd never vote for Mc Four More Years! But I'm beginning to smell a big rat.

I'd rather see Rev. Wright in the White House... I'm dead serious.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:08 PM
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35. Thanks...
This is just nuts. :crazy:

Another year of hold my nose and vote.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:11 PM
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38. I hear that
I saw the writing on the wall when Edwards dropped out too soon... I still wonder why... other than, yep, you guessed it... the FUCKING MEDIA chose our candidates, not us!

Freedom of the press used to be a sacred part of what made us America. Before we can make any changes in our government, we are going to need to clean that house first.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:05 PM
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29. The vast left wing conspiracy has been dealt a sucker punch
Why shouldn't moderate dems watch FNC?

Bitch about CNN MSNBC and FNC when they don't worship at the O alter. To friggin bad.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:14 PM
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40. Because Fox News is a GOP propaganda network.
Racist, Xenophobic, Democrat and liberal haters the lot of them. Not to mention that their lead show is hosted by a known sexual predator who only kept his job because of a multi million dollar payout.

Try watching the movie Outfoxed.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:38 PM
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45. a moderate conservative like hillary
is just what fox news wants.

plus, shes a clinton... and all republicans lust after anyone with that name.
ratings ratings ratings!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:51 PM
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49. Obama got good ratings on Fox News Sunday
So the dems are a boost to their ratings, the other networks would appreciate that

Daily Kos and HuffPo does not have the reach
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:03 PM
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52. They exist for one reason, to push the agenda of the GOP.
needed to be said again.
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