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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:21 PM
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Delegate math: Why Clinton winning and even winning big in IN will result in an Obama win
If North Carolina Obama by 10%
Obama 69 delegates to Clinton's 46
=_________________________
+23 Obama delegate gain.

If Indiana Clinton by 10%
Clinton 43 delegates to Obama 29
=_________________________
+14 Clinton delegate gain.

Total net gain for Obama
=_________________________
+9 delegates

See for yourself:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/

And no, Obama will not come close to losing NC, see here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5303475
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:24 PM
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1. us,
as always, a stellar post.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:26 PM
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2. Didn't you also tell us that Pennsylvania would turn around once Philly precincts came in?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:29 PM
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4. ruggerson
still arguing about PA? The state was tailor made for Clinton , yet, he cut the lead in two. Indiana is another white trash piece of shit. You'll win.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:31 PM
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7. No I was commenting on the OP's prognosticating abilities
nice to hear what you think of PA and IN.

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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:34 PM
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10. I was raised in PA, ruggerson.
Tell me, is Indiana a big state?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:39 PM
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14. compared to what?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:41 PM
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18. Say, Ohio, California, New York, PA.
Get it?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:43 PM
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19. compared to those
uh, no. Is this a new game? Is Idaho a big state?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:44 PM
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22. Let's bring in the caucuses, ruggerson.
You're humble opinion, please?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:48 PM
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25. What about them, Condem?
I feel like I'm in a coutroom drama with someone who just graduated from the Upper Asuza School of Law and Technical Training.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:53 PM
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28. So many of you Clinton supporters disregard them.
Have you ever been to one?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:55 PM
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29. I don't disregard them
I just think they're not as democratic (small d) as primaries. I would like to see the process changed for 2012.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:56 PM
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30. Again, ever been to one?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:03 PM
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32. I've never lived
in a caucus state, why?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:08 PM
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34. The Clinton's whole argument is the caucus states....
and why they don't do well in them. Why is that?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:40 PM
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17. I never said he would win, I said it wasn't over and that the MSM was too early to call it, and...
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:43 PM
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20. gotcha
I do remember you called Missouri correctly
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:46 PM
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23. Thanks for being fair
It is appreciated. :hi:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:49 PM
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26. Sure
:hi:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:30 PM
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5. Ah, no I didn't, I said it was too early to call
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:37 PM
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:39 PM
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15. coming from you, that's hilarious
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:28 PM
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3. Thank you, USRChange..
The more of these reality posts the better!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:31 PM
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6. I called Indiana tonight.
Only got to talk to three people out of my 25, left messages for most of the others, only 3 were not interested.

The longest conversation and the most interested listener was concerned with college education for his children. We talked about Obama's tax credit plan for higher education. They guy didn't commit his vote, but he took the 800 number for talking to issue experts and upon parting company the callee said he and his wife would be going to the closest Obama visit they could find.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:33 PM
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8. You rule!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:51 PM
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27. Thanks! Had to quit after the 25 though, because we were having tornado sirens
for about 30 minutes of it.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:03 PM
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33. I've been caling for the state party but will look to cal IN for Obama this weekend
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:33 PM
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9. Regardless of what happens now...Obama is still leading..
and will continue to do so.

The Most States, the most delegates and has rasied more funds too..Obama 08!

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:08 PM
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36. all 50 states!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:37 PM
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11. As in past elections, I have discovered that the calling assuages my anxiety, but . .
my favorite thing is door-knocking, because it helps relieve my worry AND I get to be active out of doors.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:38 PM
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13. Excellent work on your analysis! THANKS! K&R!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:39 PM
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16. Hillary NEEDS 68% of the vote in ALL the remaining contests to "close the deal"
Edited on Thu May-01-08 09:42 PM by rocknation
And that doesn't factor in her superdelegate lead dropping into the the teens.


41-point or more margin of victory = blowout

36 - 40 points = a "real" win

30 - 35 points = good, but not good enough

11 – 29 points = a wash

5 - 10 points = useless

1 - 4 points = concession speech


:headbang:
rocknation
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:44 PM
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21. We should e-mail that to the Clinton campaign
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:47 PM
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24. what are the crossover possibilities in these two states
what are the possibilitites of significant subterfuge by republican trouble makers? Is it same day registration?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:00 PM
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31. 2% either way? No same day according to this:
Six states have made registration as simple as it can be. Minnesota, Maine, New Hampshire, Idaho, Wisconsin, and Wyoming allow voters to register at the polls when they arrive to cast their ballot. North Dakota abandoned registration entirely in 1951. Five of these states have the highest voter turnout in the country.

http://www.gothamgazette.com/elections/sep.01.shtml
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:08 PM
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35. so do you have a projection in either of these states?
I would have thought that NC would be a blow away because it has both AA and high educated white on the coast?

Did you do a projection on Indiana and I missed it?
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