So it looks like Kantor didn't call Hoosiers "shit" and "white n****rs"....

[mrreowwr_kittty]

....As far as I know.

I take him at his word on that.

[Elidor]

1. "those people are shitting" was the only part I could make out

I couldn't hear the alleged slur, he was too quiet.

[question everything]

29. Don't we all? As needed, in the toilets?

[NJmaverick]

2. well it SOUNDS like he definately called them shit

but "white n***rs is open to debate


With camp Clintons record of lying, I don't take any of their word for it

[bunnies]

3. ...

:spray:

[TwilightGardener]

4. He called them shit or shitty. It's as plain as day, and in context.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. It's so muffled on my laptop I can barely make out what he's saying.

So I'm just going to take Mickey at his word that he didn't call Indianans shit and white n****rs.

As far as I know.

[olkaz]

7. Exactly.

Good god, the Clinton machine has damage control people EVERYWHERE.

The fact that most of the articles on this PLUS the youtube video being pulled is scary.

[JoFerret]

39. Deafness and blindness to fairness and reality

are a trait of irrational partisan followers.

Can this lack of judgment and decency be overcome by common sense and judgment?

[Jed Dilligan]

5. Guilt by association.

It's not just for black people anymore.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. *snerk*

[janetblond]

8. The video has been removed from YouTUBE

Let's see if CNN or MSNBC has the GUTS to report THIS news!
QUOTE from youtube ... what's left of the covered up video which has been destroyed.

"Bill Clinton Campaign Chairman and Hillary Clinton '08 Advisor Mickey Kantor tells George Stephanapoulos and James Carville: "Look at Indiana...it doesn't matter if we win. Those people are shit. How would you like to be a worthless white ni**er?" (more) (less)

There you go!
Carville, Stephanolpous, the Clintons ... all racists!
Poor Maya Angelou.
What DELUSIONAL old black lady!
Disgusting!

[KittyWampus]

9. exactly, make the fucker deny he stopped beating his wife. And Obama will stop giving Hillary

the finger!

[leftynyc]

20. He already has denied it

and has hired himself a lawyer. He's got a case.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

22. John Kerry had a case against the Swiftboaters too.

He won the lawsuit and everything.

[leftynyc]

25. He never brought suit

And I've always considered that a huge mistake. He should have taken them to the cleaners. He threatened to do so but never followed through.

[2rth2pwr]

10. Now we know what the politics of Hope means.

We were hoping it was true. Please, please, pretty please let it be true.

Oh, we will so smash her with this, oh God I can't stand it.

It's not true? oh shit,....but don't you see the look in his eyes, the hatred?1!!

C'mon we can still make this work!


The Politics of Hope.

[ej510]

12. Oh he did 4:52 mark.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U&feature=related

[mrreowwr_kittty]

16. Does Ignored have a problem with my OP?

What's wrong with it? Is there something wrong with adding "as far as I know" and "I take him at his word" to the end of something?

[JoFerret]

40. Nothing at all sweetie

.

[dailykoff]

13. I heard him say "I have to take a shit"

and "I love youre white knickers"

[Dr Fate]

15. LOL- thats what I heard too. n/t

n/t

[closeupready]

14. It's maybe a little ambiguous, but using common sense,

the initial interpretation makes more sense, because it would be like saying, in effect, "it doesn't matter whether we are winning or losing in Indiana, because Indiana doesn't matter." Also, considering that Indiana is traditionally a red state, again, the initial interpretation makes more sense. As to his comments about "white n****s", I can't honestly say that I can hear exactly what he is saying.

[skooooo]

17. People from Indiana are called "Hoosiers." nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

18. Sorry! nt

[SwampG8r]

19. please what in gods name is a hoosier anyway?

i always wanted to know

[Stuckinthebush]

21. A person from Indiana

;)

[skooooo]

23. There are a few theories..

..maybe none of which are true, but here they are:


"Hoosier" comes from the slurred phrase "who's your father?"

Or the other explanation is that it was a slurred way of saying "Who's there?"

[SwampG8r]

24. you gotta be kidding me

[skooooo]

28. That's what I was told as a kid..

..and I grew up there. YUP!

[question everything]

31. 'tis true

Frontier banter

This idea suggests the term was a greeting. When approaching a man's home in those early frontier days, you shouted from afar, "Hello, the cabin!" to avoid being shot. The inhabitants would then shout back "Who'sh 'ere?" (who's there). As it got slurred together over time, the country folk came to be called Hoosiers.

A variant of this story combines "Who's" and "your", such as in "Who'sh yer 'pa?". Additionally, the poet James Whitcomb Riley facetiously suggested that the fierce brawling that took place in Indiana involved enough ear biting that the expression "Whose ear?" was common enough to be notable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier

[SwampG8r]

32. wow

i really do learn something new every day
thanks all for the answers to one of lifes mysteries

[Fermezlabush]

26. Why would he have done that? They just handed then a victory. Why slam them?

What's the logic in this story?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

27. What's your problem with my OP?

You're acting like there's something wrong with adding things like "as far as I know" and "I take him at his word" to the end of a statement!

That's funny because Clinton supporters have told me, repeatedly, that adding those phrases does not cast doubt on what the person is stating.

:shrug:

[khaliljohnson]

30. No, he didn't

The lie has been debunked.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

33. As far as we know. nt

[WA98296]

34. I own the DVD, and he says, "THOSE PEOPLE ARE SHIT" referring to Indiana folks

[spooky3]

35. please read the million other posts at this forum that explain how you couldn't possibly know that

[spooky3]

36. Indystar: "Video that slurs Hoosiers is a hoax" - includes comments from the two campaigns

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/NEWS0502/805030475

(you may need to go to bugmenot.com for a username and password)

A video showing a longtime supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton using slurs to describe Hoosiers spread through the Web like a virus Friday, triggering a firestorm of protest before the video was finally exposed as a hoax.

snip

On Friday, Kantor, who said he is "not officially involved at all" in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign, immediately denounced the footage as outrageous and false.

snip

Kevin Griffis, communications director for Barack Obama's campaign in Indiana, said the Illinois senator's campaign had nothing to do with the video. "We have no idea" who created it, he said. "We absolutely did not have any role in this. We have no idea where it's from."

Clinton on Friday told The (Lafayette) Journal & Courier that she, too, had no idea who was behind the video. "It's just something that is clearly unfortunate that people would go to all the time and trouble to make something up like that," she said. "And I assume nobody would believe such a thing because it's totally wrong."

snip

[Evergreen Emerald]

37. "And I assume nobody would believe such a thing because it's totally wrong."

Clearly Clinton overestimates the DU crowd.

[spooky3]

38. LOL!

[JoFerret]

41. She clearly has a higher standard.

and a measure of common sense.

[Yossariant]

42. Yeah. Too bad for Obama. Many IN voters think he's behind it, even if he's not.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

43. Sure they do.

As far as you know.