Are there any Clinton Policy Wonks remaining?

[populistdriven]

Please explain to me how to defend Hillary on the gas tax thing. Absolutely no one believes that this will help the average joe. It will mean big profit for the oil companies. It will cost the government millions to administer and billions in lost Highway construction money. Watch this video and explain the policy to me please:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24434370#24434370

I think this is the single worst possible position she could take on gas price policy.


One more question:

Are there any Clinton supporters left who still resent what the Republicans did to Impeach Bill? I am a member of MoveOn. MoveOn was CREATED specifically because of the unfair attacks the Right Wing made to Impeach Bill Clinton. Watch this video and explain to me why I should still have any feelings left about what the Right Wing did to destroy Bill Clinton:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24434434#24434434

The Clintons are officially in BED with the right wing. I have divorced my sentiments as to the FATE of the CLINTONS Completely. They have dug their own political grave.

[K Gardner]

1. Here is the breakdown of JOBS LOST, damage done, and a letter from 150 economists

damning this pathetic pandering of Clinton and McCain. She is nothing short of dangerous, and the media is enabling her, along with her "base" who doesn't seem to care about facts.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/3/65227/97777/281/508229

North Carolina 7,071 Jobs $203 Million
Indiana 6,390 Jobs $183 Million
Oregon 2,881 Jobs $82 Million
Kentucky 4,298 Jobs $123 Million
Montana 2,348 Jobs $67 Million
South Dakato 1,623 Jobs $46 Million
West Virginia 2,691 Jobs $77 Million
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America 310,750 Jobs $8.9 Billion

An Open Statement Opposing Proposals for a Gas Tax Holiday

In recent weeks, there have been proposals in Congress and by some presidential candidates to suspend the gas tax for the summer. As economists who study issues of energy policy, taxation, public finance, and budgeting, we write to indicate our opposition to this policy. Put simply, suspending the federal tax on gasoline this summer is a bad idea and we oppose it.

There are several reasons for this opposition. First, research shows that waiving the gas tax would generate major profits for oil companies rather than significantly lowering prices for consumers. Second, it would encourage people to keep buying costly imported oil and do nothing to encourage conservation. Third, a tax holiday would provide very little relief to families feeling squeezed. Fourth, the gas tax suspension would threaten to increase the already record deficit in the coming year and reduce the amount of money going into the highway trust fund that maintains our infrastructure.

Signers of this letter are Democrats, Republicans and Independents. This is not a partisan issue. It is a matter of good public policy.

[populistdriven]

5. If there are any SuperDelegates left on the fence they need to do the Merciful Thing

Stop this for the sake of the Clintons, if not for the sake of the American People!!

[K Gardner]

8. How Much Is Clinton's Gas Tax Worth....

[zabet]

11. See another one promoting an Obama Lie.

Hillary will NOT take money allocated for road maint. to fund this...she has said repeatedly it would come out of the Oil Companies' pockets. So has Obama sold out to pandering to big oil to keep money in their pockets?

30 bucks?!! Just how outta touch is Obama and his supporters that they think this is all it will save many people? I can tell you honestly, with our farm equipment (what is gas powered), this would save us far more that 30 dollars, my cousin who runs a small roofing business will save more that $30, the builders around here will save more than $30, many people around here commute as far as 60 miles one way to work (K/S, Goodrich plant) and they will save more than $30.

I guess it is not surprising that Obama would be clueless on this issue....being as a car and gas for him is paid for by taxpayers....and not out of his pocket.

[F.Gordon]

12. Small Biz is being killed by Gas Prices

Instead of working with Clinton on this issue Obama decided to throw it in the political campaign stew to insure nothing gets done. Nancy "Go Obama" Pelosi has already said that none of this legislation will pass. So it matters not.

[K Gardner]

13. Do you read.. seriously? Anything but sound bites? This is why Hillary panders to the

uneducated voter. You should be ashamed.

[zabet]

14. Uneducated?

:rofl:

My education and work history would blow your mind to be quite honest. Such goodness and excellence that my goal of retiring by 40 and being independently wealthy was reached 5 years ago. I achieved this from starting out living in my car....so no one can say a damn thing was handed to me. I retired from the biggest global chemical company there is. Early out with full retirement because I invested the max I could. I am far from uneducated and uniformed. I see where this would help many people in my area....sorry you cannot see that many Americans need ANY help they can get. Sooo not progressive to think only of your candidate and not the millions of American it could help a little. That supposed $30 dollars spent getting back and forth to work, may enable a single mother to buy her child some medicine, shoes, clothing....things they have cut out due to high prices of everything, not just gas.

[populistdriven]

17. this is what economists are saying

gasoline producers are making as much as they can right now, the only thing keeping the price of gas from going higher is the price of gas, remove the tax and the consumption will rise but since the production cannot rise the price at the pump will rise.

[Lucinda]

2. They don't get the fact that she said the oil companies should pay for it

out of their profits instead of the consumers paying it?

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=7467

[babylonsister]

3. Yes, all those 150 economists are just wrong. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

4. But she already promised that same money for renewable energy.

[Maribelle]

6. I was going to enter the discussion here, however the first link to a Hillary hater stopped me.

I cannot see any debate whatsoever attempting to past that hate.

They don't want to debate the issues on who will pay, and who will benefit the very most. They don't want to talk about the desperation of the working poor.

[populistdriven]

9. The profits go to OIL COMPANIES while OIL COMPANIES pay for it nt

[Lucinda]

15. It certainly seems that way. Hillary 's position seems crystal clear to me.

Oil companies should pay the tax from their profits. Which we all know they got by screwing the consumers at the pump in the first place.

[populistdriven]

16. and it would be more than 20 bucks for consumers if they simply sent us a check

[populistdriven]

7. The average joe has a phrase for that - Its called a "CIRCLE JERK" nt

The profits go to OIL COMPANIES while OIL COMPANIES pay for it

[F.Gordon]

10. Clinton, McCain, and Obama are all pandering to this "issue"

Federal Funds are usually allocated as matching funds to the State. With maybe the exception of Alaska, the States are broke as it is so "fixing the highways" isn't even an option.

Bottom Line. Neither the Clinton or McCain legislation will pass so it's a non-issue. Well, I take that back. It's an "issue" to some Obama peeps cause Brother Justin told them it was. :eyes:

I find it interesting that Obama would "cap" the price of a barrel of Oil but not interest rates on Credit Cards. Not that it matters......

Go Bama!!!!

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