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Mon May-05-08 10:10 PM
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Jon Stewart destroying Hillary |
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LMAO at the Panderer's Box! He is honestly perplexed about what has gotten into her, along with the rest of us.
How long are Clinton supporters going to ignore the obvious? She will do anything, say anything to get elected. It doesn't matter how stupid or ridiculous it is.
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Mon May-05-08 10:11 PM
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Mon May-05-08 10:12 PM
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2. "Panderer's Box", huh? |
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Perfect..She's opening up a big ol' Panderer's Box.
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Mon May-05-08 10:14 PM
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3. She is still the stronger candidate so her supporters will stay |
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Mon May-05-08 10:16 PM
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4. nah. its a cult of lemmings. over the cliff we all go. |
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Mon May-05-08 10:18 PM
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But that's not really the point of this OP. If you want to vote for a candidate who lies and panders and treats voters like they're idiots, why don't you just vote for the Republican?
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Mon May-05-08 10:19 PM
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6. Nope, sorry.. Her name recognition advantage has ended. Her negatives are the highest in history for |
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any presidential candidate. She can't compete financially and super delegates leave her for him and none have left him for her.
Sorry, she tried to front load the system and it didn't work, Her strategy failed months ago.
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Mon May-05-08 10:21 PM
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8. Obama will be the nominee. You need to understand it. |
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Mon May-05-08 10:24 PM
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she managed to lose her air of "inevitability" following the first primary by coming in a distant third to Obama?
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Mon May-05-08 10:45 PM
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25. Did you forget the sarcasm notation? She has very high negatives and is benefitting from |
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Rush Limbaugh cross-over votes who will never vote for her in Nov :eyes:
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Mon May-05-08 10:20 PM
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7. What NRA annie get your gun, let's nuke iran, enrich oil and insurance companies is pandering no |
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Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:23 PM by barack the house
never I refuse to believe it. Erm hold maybe I do.
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Mon May-05-08 10:24 PM
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10. I'm crying I'm laughing so hard |
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Mon May-05-08 10:25 PM
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11. Jon isn't the only one. I posted this on another thread but I'll stick it here too. |
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Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:34 PM by Pirate Smile
Clinton To Put Gravity Under Scrutiny
What is Hillary talking about? She's going to break up the OPEC oil cartel? Because we have such a strong hand to play now with the OPEC member states? And isn't the main issue here a matter of rising demand, principally for rapidly expanding economies in Asia, not monopoly pricing?
Hillary is certainly not the first candidate to bash the oil producing states or oil companies around election time. And the polls seem to show it's working for her. But I'm concerned about the widening gap between reality and her campaign trail statements. First with the pledge to obliterate Iran if they attack Israel, then the rebellion against economists and now this.
Where are we going here?
--Josh Marshall http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ Her former advisor: Former adviser hits Hillary over China HILLARY Clinton is cynically engaging in China bashing to win blue collar votes but will be friendly to Beijing if she becomes president, one of her former advisers said yesterday.
"What she's doing is fearmongering of the worst political order and it's why I had to quit her campaign," said Richard Baum, a respected China scholar at the University of California, Los Angeles.
"What's even more appalling ... is that I don't think there's any chance she actually believes any of what she's saying.
"It's all bare-knuckles politics on her part, straight out of the Karl Rove school - a cynical, calculated effort to win over the lunch-pail Democrats, for who China's an easy target." http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23649599-2703,00.html
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Mon May-05-08 10:25 PM
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12. When Pandora opened the Box, all the horrors that plague mankind were loosed upon the world. |
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All that was left inside was ... Hope. (Pandora was the first female ... the "First Lady" so to speak.)
A very apt metaphor for this primary, I'd say. :evilgrin:
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Mon May-05-08 10:44 PM
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Mon May-05-08 11:33 PM
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54. By golly, I'd forgotten that |
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thanks for jogging my memory. Makes the panderer's box that much more apt as metaphor, eh?
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Mon May-05-08 11:46 PM
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56. I've actually been wondering when some wag would use it. |
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There're just too many hooks to ignore ... "Hope" "First Woman" etc. I thought of it back when DUers were doing the "Boxing" metaphors. Add "Pandering" and it's just too ripe.
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Mon May-05-08 10:37 PM
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13. I think it is so cool for Democrats like you and the BO folk |
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to swoon and applaud anyone that destroys another Democrat. It really pulls the party together. The BO folk sound so bitter and angry that they would support anyone that would demean Hillary or any other Dem. just for their purpose to elect a man that can never win the GE. Is it that important to win the Primary, no matter who is destroyed in the mean time . You folk will do , or say anything to win. It's like, get out of the way, we are the only ones that matter.
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Mon May-05-08 10:39 PM
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Like running nothing but negative ads in PA the last 2 weeks of which featured Bin Laden which is a swing state in the fall?
That kind of trashing of another democrat?
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Mon May-05-08 10:39 PM
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Like running nothing but negative ads in PA the last 2 weeks of which featured Bin Laden in the last one the day before the primary which is a swing state in the fall?
All McCain has to do is take the "I'm Hillary Clinton and I endorse this message" and put his mug there. He can cut his ad production budget.
That kind of trashing of another democrat?
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Mon May-05-08 10:41 PM
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17. Just the truth in advertising. |
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Mon May-05-08 10:42 PM
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and calling all of Obama's supporters elitist and out of touch or kids that are naive?
Building the bridge back to the GOP majority.
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Mon May-05-08 10:46 PM
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27. You folk act elitist on DU , maybe she has been reading it. |
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He is most certainly not building a bridge to the opposing Democrat side. He will never get her supporters if he by chance wins the primary.
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Mon May-05-08 10:47 PM
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31. and she'll never get his |
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So I guess we fucked ourselves didn't we?
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Mon May-05-08 10:53 PM
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Mon May-05-08 10:54 PM
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When abortion is illegal and there is a draft to get troops for the war in Iran we can pat ourselves on the back.
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Mon May-05-08 11:05 PM
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42. Why is abortion the most important thing for you? |
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Iran will never be invaded bye a Clinton Admin. maybe an BO admin. but not Clinton. I would bet on it.
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Mon May-05-08 11:10 PM
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My feelings are the exact opposite. I don't trust Clinton not to attack Iran and I trust Obama.
As for abortion not the most important thing however its the most immediate thing the GOP will do when they take power. Stevens is old and I don't think he has another 4 years and Ginsberg has had health problems. 2 justices and they get the ability to overturn Row.
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Mon May-05-08 11:13 PM
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47. Nobody will ever over turn Roe m the Repugs would not ever |
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have the issue to fight against to keep the sheeple inline and the Dems would never have the opposition to fight against them . It works for both sides.
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Mon May-05-08 11:18 PM
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Is accountable to no voters. McCain is going to owe the base their judges and he'll deliever on that.
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Tue May-06-08 07:33 AM
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68. How much are you willing to bet? Let's put our money where our mouth is....... |
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If Hillary wins the nomination, join the Army. If you really believe what you're saying then you have nothing to fear. Although, here is something to remember. She claims her 8 years as first lady as her experience. Bill Clinton deployed more soldiers, until dubya, since the Vietnam war, and she voted for IWR, and she voted for Kyl/Liebermann, and refused to support a bill that would ban the sale of cluster bombs to countries that use them on civilian populations.
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Mon May-05-08 11:27 PM
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I hate what Hillary has done and hope that Obama wins the nomination. But if he doesn't, I'll still vote for Hillary because otherwise I'm put McFuck into office and I won't do that. Obviously you will. Hope you can live with it.
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Tue May-06-08 09:14 AM
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70. what the hell is the matter with you? what the f*** do you mean calling other Democrats elitist? |
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i guess you are a Republican, finally at long last it all comes out. :eyes:
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Mon May-05-08 10:42 PM
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19. Or perhaps the other kind of trashing - when you declare your republican challenger would make a |
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better president then your fellow democratic colleague. That kind of trashing of another democrat?
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Mon May-05-08 10:43 PM
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Your crap is so funny. Have you ever voted or been involved in an election before? You sound so rookie.
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Mon May-05-08 10:44 PM
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23. Welcoming new people to the process sucks |
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Even your beloved Queen had her first love...Goldwater than McGovern.
She had her first experience in volunteering once as well.
I've voted in every election since 1997 and yes this is the first time I've volunteered.
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Mon May-05-08 10:47 PM
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32. I could tell that you were a newbie and had not really |
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not had studied the issues. Good luck anyway with your naive voting.
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Mon May-05-08 10:50 PM
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33. No grasp of the issues? |
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Simply because I'm 30 doesn't mean I haven't made an intelligent choice.
Just because your older doesn't make you not a fool.
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Mon May-05-08 10:56 PM
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39. you will become wiser the older you get, then you will look back |
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at the horribly bad decisions you have made.
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Mon May-05-08 10:58 PM
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I'm sure I'll be ashamed of myself for getting involved in the political process in 20 years :sarcasm:
Even if he loses I'll be proud of what I did. Is Hillary ashamed of supporting McGovern in 1972?
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Mon May-05-08 11:08 PM
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44. I would think not. Hillary has never backed away from supporting him. |
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BO on the other hand never comes front and center about what he has done, he just hems, and ha's. He can't answer a question without his uh, ahs, ums, etc. He doesn't know what he has said from one event until the next
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Mon May-05-08 11:17 PM
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48. OK we are going to bash the other guy so here |
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Hillary doesn't know what she has done in her own life whether its major things like NAFTA or minor things like visits to Bosnia. She takes responsibility for the good things her husband did and takes no responsibility for anything that might cost her votes now. She exagerates her own experience because in reality she has 4 years more experience in Obama and her legislative record is just as scant. She screwed up the healthcare proposal in 1992 so bad by her secretive meetings and shutting out the doctors and ruined a chance to actually reform the system. Also costing us Congress for 14 years.
She has chosen poor advisors for her campaign and has squandered all the advantages she had since this started a year ago. She had no plan on what to do after Super Tuesday and no money because of it.
Most of her fellow senators who know her best have endorsed Obama.
etc.
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Mon May-05-08 10:52 PM
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34. Want to raise the voting age to 40? |
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Have voted since 1980 and probably have FORGOTTEN more than you will ever know about politics and I am voting for Obama.
Stop messing with rookies and pick on someone your own size with YOUR elitism. If Hillary was such a great candidate she'd be winning. Ask around.
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Tue May-06-08 09:17 AM
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71. you called him naive? gosh, i thought you didn't like "elitism" |
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Mon May-05-08 10:40 PM
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Mon May-05-08 10:44 PM
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22. 1) Obama will win the GE. 2) Its Hillary that will say/do anything to win. It's pretty obvious. |
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And guess what? The public is rejecting her disgusting tactics.
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Mon May-05-08 10:45 PM
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24. She stopped being a Democrat a long time ago... Hence, I stopped caring about her |
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being "destroyed".
She's Lieberman in a pant-suit.
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Mon May-05-08 10:45 PM
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Mon May-05-08 10:46 PM
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28. I forget who said: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" Who was that again? nt |
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Mon May-05-08 10:46 PM
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29. It's so true. They all stomp their feet about how he's ahead |
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and will be the nominee and how Hillary supporters "need to get over it."
Yet, they get more bitter by the day.
Astonishing.
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Mon May-05-08 10:53 PM
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36. You're kidding right? |
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The reason so many Dems are pissed at her are because of her blatantly Republican/Rovian campaign and smear tactics. But you are obviously ignoring the reality of her campaign, and the embarassment that it has become.
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Mon May-05-08 10:57 PM
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40. Who knew DU had so many |
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non reality based members?
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Mon May-05-08 10:55 PM
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38. Sheesh! Project much? |
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Mon May-05-08 11:12 PM
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46. What is something a Zell Miller supporter would say Alex??? |
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Tue May-06-08 07:04 AM
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63. Interesting, isn't it! |
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Mon May-05-08 10:47 PM
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30. Wait, *she's* the one promising everybody a pony? |
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Crap, I've been behind the wrong candidate.
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Mon May-05-08 11:05 PM
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43. No. Clinton destroyed herself. He's just one of the messengers. |
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Tue May-06-08 06:20 AM
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You took the words out of my mouth
ROFL :rofl:
She more that destroyed herself...she dug her grave politically speaking and she is digging it deeper everyday
Her delusional state is getting worse She needs meds
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Mon May-05-08 11:24 PM
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50. He's not destroying her. |
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He only made Obamabots like you laugh. That is all.
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Mon May-05-08 11:24 PM
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51. It doesn't take much to impress Obama followers |
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Who gives a fuck what Jon Stewart has to say? Honestly I believe Obama followers would post something from Yoshi from Super Mario Bros. if he said something bad about Hillary. I can't wait to see how the cult of Obama reacts when the Repugs defeat their golden idol.
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Mon May-05-08 11:29 PM
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53. You can say what you want |
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about Obama and those of us that support him. But Do. Not. Fuck. with Yoshi.
And stop with the cult bullshit. Do you really need to be spreading right-wing talking points?
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Mon May-05-08 11:38 PM
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55. Honestly Hillary members are more cultlike |
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Their ability to completely ignore reality for months and months is impressive. They ignore the reality that SHE CAN'T WIN, they ignore the reality that she is running A REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN. Personally I'm fucking sick of it.
I didn't loathe Hillary before this campaign started, but I do now. She was never the most liberal senator but she did the right thing at least most of the time. Her campaign is just a joke now.
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Tue May-06-08 12:03 AM
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57. Well, I can't understand the attraction to the empty suit. |
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Tue May-06-08 07:26 AM
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67. there's a whole lot more you will never understand. But that's your problem |
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Tue May-06-08 08:59 AM
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69. And your guy is a flim flam artist. |
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Tue May-06-08 05:59 AM
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58. She's toast. Extra burnt. |
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Tue May-06-08 06:05 AM
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59. Stewart really looked perplexed when he said, "What's happened to her?" |
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I think he's asking the same thing many of us have been asking.
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Tue May-06-08 07:00 AM
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62. Here's the Video............. |
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Blasting Emily Dickinson on the pickup truck radio :D
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Tue May-06-08 07:21 AM
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65. To say "anything" is too broad. |
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I'll agree to a point, she'll do what ever she has to, within reason, to get elected. That's one of the many reasons I support her. When my candidate, whoever that turns out to be, goes up against McCain I WANT them to do whatever it takes to be elected. If we get McCain for four years will you take comfort in the fact that Obama refused to pander??? Not me.
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