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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:35 PM
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Exits say that 40% of Obama's winning coalition in NC was white.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:38 PM by Dbdmjs1022
This is a BIG deal. It helps assuage some of the worries of the SDs that he can't pull in the white vote.

GOBAMA!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:36 PM
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1. imagine that.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:36 PM
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2. Go figure.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:36 PM
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3. He lost 60% of the white vote.
That is not good for a potential presidential nominee.
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:37 PM
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7. He is the nominee. Deal with it.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:38 PM
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8. She's losing 80+% oif the black vote
That's not good for a potential presidential nominee, either.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:46 PM
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47. We're counting black votes now?
('true' spin from the Hillary camp)
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:38 PM
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9. He lost 70% of it in PA. You can NOT spin this as a bad thing!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:41 PM
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19. and she lost 92% of the black vote in NC--what does that tell you?
He is doing better with whites than she is with blacks in a big way.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:43 PM
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22. Blacks consist of only 10% of the electorate in the general election
While whites consist of around 70%.

What does that tell you?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:49 PM
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30. A Dem cannot win a national campaign without winning the black vote substantially
and with big turnout. Average turnout will not do it. And it's more than 10% and in the big states you like to yap about all the time it's substantially higher.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:00 PM
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43. weren't you an Obama supporter until the White Fright campaign?
What does that tell you?

It tells me you might be happier with the republicans, since they generally win the low-information caucasian demographic, the basis on which you purportedly chose a presidential candidate (the second time).
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:47 PM
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49. they consist of about 20% of the Democratic vote
so what does that tell you? You think a Democrat can win without the black vote?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:48 PM
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28. An exact draw would mean they each 'lost' 50%.
It'd be fairer to say he lost 10% of the white vote if you insist on viewing it in those terms.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:48 PM
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29. Wow, I just heard Clinton got 6% of the black vote in NC. n/t
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:49 PM by Life Long Dem
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:52 PM
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36. Hillary only managed 14% more, and she took a grand total of 8% of the AA vote. That's ............
miserable for someone who wants to be the nominee.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:01 PM
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44. Different circumstances in a General Election
He'll win much more against Grandpa
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:48 PM
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50. bwahahaha. she's toast. and he's improved his standing with white voters
your dear hilly loses black voters by a thundering margin. She's done.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:36 PM
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4. Which state-both? nt
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:38 PM
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10. NC. nt
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:37 PM
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5. HUGE deal ... The voters who went for him in MD, VA, etc. came BACK!
She has overplayed her hand with the "just a working gal" pitch.
He's made inroads back into her constituencies in NC, the way he
was doing before the whole Rev. Wright B.S.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:37 PM
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6. Hardee har, har !!!
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:39 PM
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11. Blows the dearly departed jackson_dem's theory all to hell.
He predicted 32%, IIRC.

Hawkeye-X
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:39 PM
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12. Clearly they must have some black blood and not know it (sarcasm)
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:39 PM
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13. I hope this means that the manufactured Wright issue
has fallen by the wayside.

No matter what happens tonight, I'm fired up to beat McCain!
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:40 PM
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14. CNN also said that Edwards only had 40% of white vote when he won Senate seat. nm
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:42 PM
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20. Compelling factoid, right there. Thanks. n/t
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:47 PM
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26. Edwards didn't get 36% of white support in the Democratic primaries. n/t
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:40 PM
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15. The numbers need not reflect racist reaction
Just because Obama does poorly compared to Clinton with regards to whites, it may be that they prefer a white Dem over black, but that doesn't mean they won't vote for a black candidate against a republican.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:41 PM
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18. It has a lot to do with age, is what I've heard. nt
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:40 PM
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16. Great News!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:41 PM
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17. This white woman and EVERY ONE OF MY WHITE FRIENDS voted for Obama in NC.
So did my black friends.....and I couldn't be happier for the difference it will make in 2009 when we finally have pushed an open government Democrat into the oval office.

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:46 PM
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24. thanks darlin - you rock !
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:42 PM
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21. 96% of ID, IA, WY, ND, WA, MN, WI, CO,
was white. There has never been any worry about the white vote.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:49 PM
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31. What's funny (not haha funny) that you pulled that stat out. No
Obama surrogate on TV for the last couple weeks did. We have weak TV people - I hope
Obama sures that up before GE - It's a repuke tactic - many people - same message -
funny thing - Clinton's team does it well. If you watched them, hell, I even
thought they might win NC.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:45 PM
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23. thanks ! Man, just got home from work - was in a stupid, petty
meeting, and obviously they couldn't read my body language (purse in hand, standing) !

I always like to see results as they happen.

Great news about NC - I actually had a good feeling after reading Zogby's latest
take on things.
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semass Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:47 PM
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25. The way that reads...
40% of his vote was white (60% non-white), not that he got 40% of the white vote.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:48 PM
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27. Hold on... I need to clarify.
Does this mean that votes along racial lines break down, roughly, 60% AA, 40% White, for Obama?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:50 PM
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32. 92% AA and 40% white
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:51 PM
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34. 6% black vote for Clinton. n/t
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:56 PM
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39. "He wouldn't be my pastor"
Great strategy!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:52 PM
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35. delete dupe
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:52 PM by Life Long Dem
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:58 PM
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40. So 92% of voting AA's and 40% of voting whites?
So... Clinton got roughly 8% of AA's and 60% of whites.

What % of the total voters were AA?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:02 PM
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45. 32
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:51 PM
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33. Proud NC Obama voter here!!!
And they call me white.

Though for much of the 20th century, neither my Irish nor my Italian ancestors were considered 'white.'

But the moniker will do.

The important thing is that I basically live in white-ville, and there are plenty of Obama voters here.

And we will now get to work to elect Obama in November!

Barack Hussein Obama is my president!

-app_hussein_farmer
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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:55 PM
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38. Ayup, Greensboro white-man-Obama-voter here...
And my Scotch-Irish and German ancestors have been in NC for damn near 300 years, and I cast my vote for Obama without hesitation today, even though I had supported Edwards before he dropped out.

We're not all troglodytes any more down here, y'all. 'Course we never were, except in your imaginations.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:54 PM
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37. are you sure that's not just white men? just askin
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:59 PM
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41. In NC I think its mostly elderly feminists & Walmart voters for Hillary
our state has some counties that are Dixie Crats, and some big counties that are
ultra progressive.

Our more educated areas (Research Triangle) are Obama.
Our counties with most activists are Obama.

Remember something else - we have alot of

Anti War Activists,
Code Pinkers,
Stop Torture Now activists,
Blackwater Watch activists

Also, any repugs wanting to change parties would have to switch out 25 days ahead of time,
and most didn't.

Mostly stupid people wanting to obey Rush Limpballs.

Some wanted to change parties today - bright! : )


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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:59 PM
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42. I told people. We were going to vote much like VA
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:45 PM
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46. Exit polls not matching up with actual vote
This little fact is KEY to interpreting the exit polls. I saw on the Huffington Post that an NC exit poll had Obama ahead by 12 points. Right now it's looking like it will be MORE than 12 points. If that is the case, then you can EASILY say that he got much more than 40% of the white vote, since the black vote is already about maxed out for Obama.

I wonder if we'll see the pundits talking about Hillary's black voter problem now. Looks like they were paying attention to Bill's comments when he was in South Carolina. :rofl:
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:47 PM
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48. But were they all EGGHEADS?
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