If Barack Obama is elected president, should he reestablish a close relationship with Pastor Wright?

[The Night Owl]

If Barack Obama is elected president, should he reestablish a close relationship with Pastor Wright?

[blackboard]

1. ?

I'm new here but this topic sounds like you have some agenda?

[Swamp Rat]

4. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[H2O Man]

9. Yep. n/t

[merh]

16. welcome to DU!

:hi:

Some folks get all sloppy with all of their gotcha excitement, they are pretty transparent, aren't they. TNO loves to pastorbait - he truly does get off on it.

[Leopolds Ghost]

51. Welcome to the Caribbean, lad.

"I could be wrong, but I do believe that pirate back there was inebriated... you think?"

[anonymous171]

2. If Hillary is elected president, should all whitehouse positions be restricted to males?

For Bill's sake.

[peace13]

3. You want my first reaction to your 'poll'?

STFU!!!

[Zomby Woof]

5. I'd be more worried about McClurkin

He is the real evil behind Obama's pulpit.

[EFerrari]

15. Well . . .

Task Force Asks Clinton To Respond To Radio Ad

October 18, 1996

The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force today asked President Clinton to publicly repudiate a recent campaign radio ad that raised the ire of many in the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. The 60 second radio ad promoted the President's support of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). The ad, targeted to Christian radio stations, also promoted Clinton's opposition to late-term abortions. The Task Force learned today from campaign officials that the ad has since been removed.

http://thetaskforce.org/press/releases/pr171_101896

The Clintons And The Gays, Ctd.

11 Mar 2008 08:36 am

Many readers expressed disbelief at my claim that the Clintons ran anti-gay ads on Christian radio stations in 1996. Did I have proof? Actually, John Aravosis recently provided a very extensive round-up of what happened back then. It's all true. Here's an excerpt from a Log Cabin briefing at the time:

In an article in today's Washington Times, entitled "For Christian Radio, Clinton Changes Tune on Gays, Abortion," it was reported that the Clinton-Gore campaign "shrugged off" angry calls to shelve the radio ad. The article cited reports from gay and lesbian groups that the campaign might delete the portion of the ad which boasts of Clinton signing the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), but "Clinton campaign spokesman Joe Lockhart said there are no plans to alter the radio ads, which will run for 'a few more days.'"

After boasting about Clinton signing the anti-gay DOMA, the ad concludes with the line: "President Clinton has fought for our values and America is better for it."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/the-clintons--2.html

Thursday, June 07, 2007
Bill Clinton reportedly told John Kerry to throw gays under the bus during 2004 election. What is he telling Hillary, and is she listening?
by John Aravosis (DC) · 6/07/2007 01:25:00 PM ET · Link
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The Kerry Edwards 2004 campaign says Bill Clinton tried to throw gays under the bus. Bill Clinton's office says it's not true. Who do we believe? And what does this mean for Hillary Clinton's presidential run?

As Pam Spaulding noted last week, Democratic political consultant Bob Shrum claims in his new book that during the 2004 elections, Bill Clinton advised John Kerry to support the Federal Marriage Amendment, i.e., the anti-gay amendment to the US Constitution that would have banned gay marriage and vitiated scores of other rights that gay couples may have, including health insurance, inheritance, child custody, parenting, and more. Shrum reports that Kerry refused to endorse the amendment.

snip

PS And if I'm wrong, if Bob Shrum is wrong, if the senior Kerry-Edwards campaign official is wrong, if history is wrong, then let Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton publicly repudiate DOMA in its entirety.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/06/bill-clinton-reportedly-told-john-kerry.html

[EFerrari]

6. Disgusting on so many levels.

[The Night Owl]

12. Exactly what is disgusting? {EOM}

[EFerrari]

30. You are promoting the politics of manufactured character assasination.

And, promoting an obstruction to an honest discussion of race.

And, promoting a distraction from a thoughtful consideration of our candidates.

Is that clear enough?

Here's Bill Moyers, who agrees with me:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/05022008/watch.html

[Demit]

46. I'm assuming that's as honest a question as your original post, and that anyone can answer:

It's a question asked by someone who loves to stick his nose into what should be people's private business. Always with an opinion on what other people "should" do. That's what's disgusting. What's the matter, disappointed that the manufactured hooplah in the media is fading? That the voters in North Carolina and Indiana didn't seem fazed by all the insistence that Obama has been "gravely hurt" by who his pastor was? The voters rightly saw it as penny-ante sh*t, a trumped up "problem", and anyone who tries to keep the "controversy" alive as you are attempting to do is an embarrassment to DU. Go peddle your pettiness somewhere else. There, does that answer your question?

[sandnsea]

22. It's flame bait, at the very least

If these Hillary supporters say that her continuing the campaign doesn't hurt Obama, then they should at least be required to stop with this racist shit.

[The Night Owl]

26. Why is this post flamebait? I'm not attacking anyone. I'm asking a fair question.

And exactly what is racist about asking people to give their opinions on whether Barack Obama should mend his relationship with his former pastor?

[sandnsea]

29. Bullshit, you know what you're doing n/t

[The Night Owl]

33. I can assure you that...

...I have no idea what I'm doing.

[CreekDog]

47. Stupid like a fox

(as Homer Simpson once said)

[newmajority]

7. If Hillary (in some alternative universe) is elected President

Will she rent the Lincoln Bedroom out to her dominionist Fellowship buddies??


John Hagee. Rod Parsely. Douglas Coe. Jeremiah Wright.

Three of those guys advocate dangerous, anti-American doctrines. The other is a US Marine who has done a Hell of a lot for his community.

[Occam Bandage]

8. If Rev. Wright flag-pins with windsurfing, should Freedom Fries lockbox with elitist?

[cali]

10. What a silly post.

[nomorewhopper]

11. good god no

wright is not just a political liability, he seems to be a genuine nut job. why anybody would want to associate with him is beyond me

[death to the DLC]

13. No, I think all black politicians should avoid

black people that don't act white.

:eyes:

who cares

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. I think that Obama is capable of making that decision without the help of silly polls.

[The Night Owl]

19. I didn't post this poll with the intent of helping Barack Obama make a decision.

I just want to know if people here feel that Barack Obama should reestablish ties with Pastor Wright.

[Occam Bandage]

24. We're well aware of your reasons for making this poll. Your flag pin must be enormous.

[endarkenment]

45. You know what they say

The bigger the flag pin -

[tledford]

25. It is an irrelevant question.

Whether Obama does so or not is between him and Reverend Wright and has nothing whatsoever to do with his responsibilities and functions as President. This whole subject is every bit as stupid as the "gas tax holiday."

[Ganja Ninja]

17. Who cares?

Pastor Wright is in the past. He's not running for President.

[harun]

32. That was the option I wish was there, (who the hell cares)

[YOY]

18. Should Bill Clinton spark up conversation with Monica Lewinsky?

NO!

[endarkenment]

20. I am really sick and tired of scary black man bullshit

could you take your racist crap elsewhere?

[The Night Owl]

23. If Pastor Wright were white, I would be asking the same question. {EOM}

[newmajority]

27. If Pastor Wright were white, nothing he said would have ever been an issue.

Hillary's Fellowship pastor and McLoon's pastors have said far worse, yet are ignored by the media.

Probably because they're fat rich white guys, not a "scary black man"

[The Night Owl]

31. I think that John McCain should be criticized for associating with Pastor Hagee. {EOM}

[endarkenment]

42. Yes indeed the Hagee controversy is really damaging McCain

You really don't get it, do you? This has nothing to do with anything other than 'oh look! a scary black man!'. The lunatic pastors that surround the republican party are strictly off limits and 99.999 white. The media doesn't care about crazy white pastors, only crazy black ones associated with the first serious black american contender for the white house. Why is that?

[The Night Owl]

48. You are correct to point out that the media operates under a double-standard which causes it to...

...scrutinize Barack Obama's association with Pastor Wright while ignoring John McCain's association with Pastor Hagee, but that fact is not relevant here because I am not the media. For years, I have criticized Republicans for associating with religious zealots. If I were to ignore Barack Obama's association with Pastor Wright, I would be embracing an inverse version of the media's double-standard but a double-standard nonetheless.

[rateyes]

21. Other:

Who gives a damn?

[EffieBlack]

28. "Beware, white people. Obama is going to let all of the scary black people into the White House!"

[Tatiana]

34. I think this might be flamebait. n/t

[The Night Owl]

37. Before I posted this poll, I considered the possibility that it would be perceived as...

...flamebait but because I could think of no rational reason why it should be perceived flamebait, I posted it anyway. So, shoot me.

[seabeyond]

35. can you say.... stupid. n/t

[crankychatter]

36. nobody gives a shit

you bored or somethin'?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

38. I'm thinking VP.

[Arugula Latte]

39. Who cares?

[The Night Owl]

41. So far, 37 DUers seem to care. {EOM}

[thereismore]

40. Why the Flying Fuck are you asking? nt

[sktmax]

43. Opinions

First remember that it was citizens of the United States of America who exploited Rev. Wright and his opinions. Mr. Wright and Mr. Obama have the Wright to associate as they choose and they have the right to their individual and or collective opinions.

What's wrong with this world and what's wrong with the question, is that people keep trying to force their own definitions of right or wrong on others. To this date there has been no significant media coverage of other ministers of different races who share some of these same opinion. The fact is it's only significance to manistream media is to use one black american in order to smear another. They used 2 people to smear each other, trample on thier values, their religion, relationships between families, communities,friends, and shed an overall negative view of black values, religion, and relationships,etc. It's an old tactic. Do some research on Willie Lynch. Many people try to debunk his existence, and while I myself cannot prove his existence, his principles exist and continue just as strongly.

[Blue_In_AK]

44. No.

That would be a flip, flop and back to flip again. He made the choice to separate himself from the good reverend after he said he couldn't repudiate him. If he went back the other way, it would demonstrate for sure that he's just a politician, as Rev. Wright said.

[Hutzpa]

49. Too sonn a poll n/t

[book_worm]

50. Why?