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Wed May-07-08 05:53 PM
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No one to blame for HRC's loss other than Hillary |
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Senator Obama will be the nominee. It's over.
There is no one to blame for HRC's loss other than Hillary and her campaign management.
Why did Hillary lose?
She and her campaign failed to do the math.
Not until Geoff Garin came on board did they understand the contest they had entered! He finally stated the obvious and only strategy in a proportionally-allocated delegate race:
"Win big, Lose small." I would add: Everywhere.
Obama understood this reality from day one.
Hillary ran as if this were a state by state winner-take-all contest, as it will be in the fall. She failed to try to increase her vote in states where she knew she was going to lose, instead just writing them off. The proportional apportionment of delegates made that a very foolish move. Obama has won huge blowouts, and even when he's lost, he's worked to keep the margin to a minimum.
Obama's ground organization was instrumental in all of the wins, both primaries and caucuses. Hillary didn't even try to contest the caucuses in many states; she did not build a knock-on-doors ground organization.
For want of a spreadsheet, HRC lost the nomination.
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Wed May-07-08 05:56 PM
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1. I think she was outdone by grassroot Obama supporters. Plain and simple. |
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Wed May-07-08 06:03 PM
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4. And she only squeaked by because a bloviating loudmouth manipulated the vote in her favor in IN |
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Wed May-07-08 06:17 PM
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Wed May-07-08 06:00 PM
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2. Obama won Dem districts with extra delegates |
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Even in states he lost - to all those people who insist he hasn't won the Dem votes. Every time he won the delegate count over the popular vote - that's why. He won loyal Democrats and was rewarded for it.
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Wed May-07-08 06:00 PM
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3. I'd credit the world class Obama campaign. There's never been |
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anything like it in history.
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Wed May-07-08 06:14 PM
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5. For want of a spreadsheet, HRC lost the nomination... |
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That pretty much ...er... sums it up!
(sorry)
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Dems to Win
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Wed May-07-08 07:18 PM
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Wed May-07-08 06:16 PM
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6. It was her Rove/Bush political tactics and her lying. People recoiled from her. n/t |
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Wed May-07-08 06:24 PM
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9. How about we also blame Obama's incredible popularity and the mobilization of his support? |
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He was the one candidate she couldn't knock off, and it was a close thing for a while.
"Blame" may not be the correct word to use.
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Wed May-07-08 06:32 PM
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10. They expected it to be over by Super Tuesday |
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No matter who was the better candidate, Obama had the better organization. Hillary was prepared to fight a battle, he was prepared to fight a war.
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Wed May-07-08 06:44 PM
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11. Nothing Hillary did made her lose, it's just that Obama did better, |
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Obama will be our nominee, and Hillary will support him. Hillary got millions of votes and about 1700 delegates. That's nothing to be ashamed of. She fought for every single one of them.
The voters just saw things differently.
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Wed May-07-08 07:09 PM
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12. Sure, Obama took advantage smartly of all openings. |
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He ran a great, grassroots campaign. Much credit to Obama.
But HRC could be close to tied in pledged delegates today if she'd had a ground operation that could have gotten a total of 200,000 more people to the caucuses and polls in 7 states:
Kansas Idaho Minnesota Colorado Nebraska Maine Washington
Surely, with the money and prominent supporters she had, HRC could have increased her turnout in Kansas from 10,000 to 28,000. Eighteen thousand people in a state where Bill had gotten over 300,000 votes. Similar numbers apply in the other states listed.
And some of the above were on Super Tuesday. How did HRC expect it to be 'over' by Feb 5 when she didn't even contest the caucuses on Super Tuesday?
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