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HopeforChange Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:41 PM
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The Night the Old Politics Died ... Article and Link here
The Night the Old Politics Died

The old politics died on May 6, 2008 as the predictable and inevitable happened and the voters said no to business as usual.

http://consortiumnews.com/2008/050708a.html

The voters said no to the most phony and fraudulent proposal in memory for a gas tax cut that would never happen, that would profit the oil companies that Senator Clinton falsely said she was fighting with it, that would do nothing for the people she falsely claimed she was helping with it.

The most reprehensible and shameful aspect of this gas tax fraud was that it was the cheap exploitation of people who are hurting, and fearful. There is nothing lower in politics than exploiting people who are hurting, trying to deceive them. The voters said no.

The voters said no to the politics embodied by the shameful ABC debate of Gibson and Stephanopoulos that was nothing more than an oppo research festival.

Voters said no to the Tim Russert “Meet the Press” that insulted them last Sunday, that wasted time with more than a dozen questions about Jeremiah Wright rather than a serious discussion of national issues.

The voters said no to the insider pundits who pontificated about what a brilliant and clever tactic the gas tax fraud was, about how Hillary is on a huge roll and Barack looked broken and on his heels only hours before he won a crushing and devastating victory.

Soon, as I predicted some time ago, Hillary will withdraw and the superdelegates surge will reach a juggernaut pace that has already begun.

Soon, there will be new talk about 2 million Obama donors that will rise to 3 million. There will be talk of a historic voter registration program that has already been approved and will exponentially strengthen democracy and build even more voter turnout, voter excitement and voter enthusiasm.

Soon, there will be talk about a Democratic landslide throughout the Congress as Democrats come together and coordination begins between the presidential and the congressional Democrats.

Soon, there will be talk about the outpouring of enthusiasm around the world from good people everywhere ready to begin a new day of American world leadership based on the great role we have played in the past.

It was the night they drove old Dixie down, the night the old politics ended, the night a great new era in American politics truly began.

The battle now begins in earnest. On Tuesday, May 6, 2008 the Rubicon was crossed.

Brent Budowsky was an aide to former Sen. Lloyd Bentsen and to Bill Alexander, then the chief deputy whip of the House. A contributing editor to Fighting Dems News Service, he can be read on The Hill Pundits Blog and reached at brentbbi@webtv.net.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:50 PM
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1. Not Dead - Just Off Sulking For A While
Enjoy it while you can.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:52 PM
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2. Aye!
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:53 PM
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3. Old politics is still around. Obama still has the Illinois political machine behind him. n/t
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:54 PM
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4. It's over, NJS. Give it up. Rejoin the good guys.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:59 PM
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7. Sorry. To act like Obama is innocent from "old politics" is extremely naive.
The Chicago political machine is the only reason why he is a Senator of the United States.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:01 PM
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8. And her last name is the only reason Hillary is a Senator of the United States....

...what's your point?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:08 PM
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9. My point is that Hillary is just like Obama.
Both have benefit from playing the system.

To act like Obama is "above it all" is naive.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:12 PM
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10. They're not the same..... one is our nominee, the other isn't.

...and they should be treated differently now, because of those facts.
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PoliticalOne65 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:06 AM
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13. No one is the nominee yet.
When one or the other reaches 2025 delegates then they are the nominee. Neither one has reached that number yet. The finish line is up there, but you need to stop racing because you will never reach that line. Well hell I'll never reach that line if I stop racing. Obama is less then 250 delegates short of the 2025 number. There are ten more primaries and caucuses between now and June third. That is less than a month. It would be foolish to drop out at this late point in the race. At this point Obama can just about glide past the finish line, but you never know something could happen, and Hillary could pull it off. Very unlikely though.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:24 PM
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12. Ironically
If your extreme cynical view is correct, than Obama has proven himself the better player in this game. He has soundly beaten a candidate who had every single possible advantage a few months ago, including brand name, money, insider support and a +30 in the polls.

If you are right, and Obama is just playing the system, then you have made a clear argument that he is way, way better at it.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:08 AM
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15. I agree
this is politics. the dynamics of the last decade are not what is needed now. we need leadership to move away from this destructive era in american politics. it's a power shift from the south to the midwest. it accomplishes a lot of good things, imo. the far right republicans are so weak that they put up a non-taliborn-again nominee. We, as a party, can choose a different winning coalition -not one that we used when the taliborn-again were at their peak. that's what I think is happening, tho maybe I'm wrong.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:39 AM
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16. I think it's naive, and rather extremist, to say that the premise of "the old politics"
being over has to be "no politics" at all. OF COURSE Obama is a product of the Illinois "machine"--and thank God there is one. Nothing ever gets done for the working class and the poor WITHOUT a well-oiled, well-organized, insurgent political MACHINE, to counter the vast financial resources and entrenched power of what FDR called "organized money." ("Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!" --FDR.) And this is what the DLC-dominated Democratic Party DIDN'T DO. They have been wallowing in Beltway games, wining and dining rich people, and doing favors for their global corporate predator donors, instead of building a well-organized, grass roots political party--a MACHINE, meaning an organization that runs smoothly from the bottom up to serve the interests of the people in identifying issues and getting good leaders elected. This is what Howard Dean has done. This is what Obama and his supporters have done. And this is what the Democratic "machine" in Illinois never lost sight of. We lost it in California. We lost it almost everywhere in the country. GRASS ROOTS POLITICAL ORGANIZING! A "machine" that can not only turn out votes, but UNDERSTANDS THE NEEDS AND VIEWS OF THE PEOPLE BEING SERVED. A "machine" paid for BY THE PEOPLE, in small donations--and not bought and paid for by big donors.

Nothing wrong with political "machines," if they work in the interests of the people. I am not at all naive about politics--and I happen to believe that Obama's supporters are likely going to have to deal with considerable disappointment on important issues, when Obama becomes president. There is little question in my mind that he will wipe the sidewalk with McBush. The American people are STARVING for a positive image and hope. That is not enough to solve our awesome problems, but it is likely enough to overcome the rigged voting system and give Obama a huge mandate for change. What he will do with it--or be permitted to do, by our global corporate predator rulers, or is inclined to do--may be where problems arise between Obama and his supporters. But there is no question that his is a DIFFERENT and MORE RESPONSIVE political "machine," much more like the Democratic Party of old--the party I can still remember, which recruited me into the California Democratic Council, when I was 16, and had me out knocking on doors in precincts for JFK and Gov. Edmund G. Brown, Sr. THAT kind of political "machine." It's also called "community" and "citizenship."

The corrupt Democratic Party leadership, that I think threw the 2004 election (mainly by its mindboggling SILENCE as rightwing Bushite corporations took over our vote counting system, and rendered it totally non-transparent with 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY CODE and virtually no audit/recount controls) is OUT. And it's a new day. The PEOPLE "machine" is rising to power, as it should. And that, to me, is the chief significance of Obama's campaign. It is people driven, and represents THE essential ingredient for reforming this country--an activated, motivated citizenry that sees itself, once again, as a COMMUNITY.

Of course, any political "machine" needs to be watched, can become corrupt, and needs to strive for constant renewal and rebirth. But merely saying that something is a "political machine" does not make it bad. And I very much disagree with you that "Hillary is just like Obama." The difference IS the "machine"--the people-driven--and not lobbyist-driven, and not corporate-driven, and not war-profiteer-driven-- political machine that ENABLED the PEOPLE to nominate a candidate who was early and public in his opposition to the heinous war on Iraq, and who has qualities (patience, charm, and skills of articulation) that give him some immunity from corporate news monopoly attacks. He is not afraid of them. He won't play their games. That is a tremendous strength, since--in addition to the riggable voting machines--the corporate news monopolies and their deliberately trivial and debilitating pursuits are the other major problem with our democracy.

A candidate really and truly chosen by the people. Imagine that. He may not be everything the people want--and God knows what hand grenades the corporate predators may toss at him as president. But there is this: that he is beholden to the people for his success. The BAD "machines"--the one that has pretty much run our own party since Reagan, and the fascist Bushite "machine"--hate that, and have tried every filthy trick in the book to prevent it. And frankly I didn't think it was possible just yet. But it seems to be happening ahead of my expectations. It doesn't mean Obama is FDR. He certainly is not. It doesn't mean that he will end the war. I don't know if he will. And he is no fundamental reformer (badly needed), from what I can see. But, by God, he IS beholden to his supporters and to the many, many Americans that they represent, including the whopping 70% in the country that wants the war ended. THAT is different, and much, much, MUCH better than what Hillary Clinton had to offer. Hell, she put a paid agent of a foreign government, Colombia, in charge of her campaign--a foreign government with one of the worst human rights records on earth! THAT's what I mean by a bad machine. Obama's machine, which may have its roots in Chicago, but is now nationwide, and activating communities everywhere--in unheard of places, in places that the DLC establishment wrote off to the Pukes--is fresh, is new, and heartens me and fills me with hope. And it is the PEOPLE, more than the candidate, who give me that inspiration.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:54 AM
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17. If Barack Obama read this he would say "You're fired Up and ready To Go"
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:07 AM by democracy1st
great post,should have been a thread.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:18 PM
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11. Reminds me of a Kansas City MO political machine.....
Edited on Wed May-07-08 11:21 PM by whistler162
and a guy named Harry S. Truman!

but it is too early to make a proper comparision.

Givem' Heck Barry!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:56 PM
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5. Excellent posts. The dinosaurs on BOTH sides of the isle would be
well served to read this very carefully.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:56 PM
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6. Ah but, Brent Budowsky makes me
feel good with his words.

They did say "no", though.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:07 AM
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14. Also the death knell for the MSM
:kick:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:06 AM
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18. A very interesting point! I don't know about "death knell" just yet, but the rebuke
by the people of the corporate news monopolies' Rev. Wright garbage is profound. The corporate news monopolies have lost power, for sure. The people are NOT ACCEPTING their fetid political narrative.

I have actually been following what the American people really think, in numerous issue and opinion polls since, oh, around the time of the invasion of Iraq. I really wanted to know, had the American people gone whacko fascist, or...was something else going on? I was amazed at what I found--a really solid, BIG, progressive majority opposed to virtually every Bush policy, foreign and domestic. 56% opposed to the Iraq War, way back in Feb. '03, before the invasion (NYT poll; other polls 54-55%). 63% opposed to torture "under any circumstances." Like that. And even bigger numbers on issues like protecting Social Security. And these polls were mostly back-paged, to like page 58, and were rarely or never reported on TV/radio. Very weird. So I've known for a long time that the American people were mightily resisting the relentless, 24/7 warmongering and fascist propaganda. But WHY was this not reflected at the ballot box? Thus I was led to investigate the voting machines, and, oh God, what a terrible story it is of the DISENFRANCHISEMENT of the American people!

But, anyway, this current voter rebellion against the propaganda, and activist rebellion against the political establishment, are not surprising to me, except for the fact that the rebellion is occurring earlier than I thought it would. I knew it was coming. And it's going to sweep away the rigged voting machines AND the crap "news." The corporates still have tremendous power over us, and I really don't see Obama as our champion against them (the way, say, FDR was). Given his policies, he could even be a stealth candidate--that is, nominated by the corporates to PREVENT a needed revolution, to dampen it, to help them consolidate their enormous gains under Bush (with "Blue Dog"/DLC complicity), and eventually install Hitler II. We mustn't underestimate the peril that our democracy is in. But the activation of people in SUPPORTING Obama, in demanding a candidate who at least mouths responsiveness to them, this early, is a very good sign. The people are in active rebellion, and are peacefully, methodically, going about restoring their rightful power. And the corporate news monopolies are seriously out of touch with this, and will eventually become irrelevant--as they have in South America, as a matter of fact. (The South Americans are way ahead of us on certain things--transparent vote counting, for one; and learning to ignore corporate news propaganda, for another.)
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:51 AM
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19. Looks like someone within the media agrees with me
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5880736

In the end, Obama's challenge to the media is as significant as his challenge to McCain.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 09:01 AM
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20. Sounds great, but BEWARE THE VOTING MACHINES... and...
the voter ID laws, and the "lost" registrations, and the fake calls with wrong directions to polling places, etc etc.

We've see THIS side of politics before and despite many of us giving our all to change things over the last 4 years, both sides of the aisle are plenty glad to hang on to the status quo regarding our elections.

So -- BEWARE -- and please help us work for election integrity.
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