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Fri May-09-08 09:41 AM
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Who does everyone think the first women president will be and what year it will happen? |
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Fri May-09-08 09:42 AM
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1. i actually think it could be a republican who does that. nt |
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Fri May-09-08 09:44 AM
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It'll be the Republicans.
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Fri May-09-08 09:45 AM
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My great, great, great granddaughter....3012. |
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Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:46 AM by rateyes
But seriously, who knows?
On edit: Replied to the wrong post. This should have been to the OP. Sorry.
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Fri May-09-08 09:43 AM
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2. I don't think we know who she is yet. But it will be a Dem. |
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Fri May-09-08 09:43 AM
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3. When we have a qualified woman as a candidate. |
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Hillary was seriously flawed because she assumed she was the annointed one.
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Fri May-09-08 09:46 AM
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12. Just keep telling yourself that. |
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She didn't win because more people prefer to project their dreams onto a nebulous and shiny Unity Pony than deal with hardball politics.
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Fri May-09-08 11:15 AM
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It had nothing to do with the her stance on the issues... :eyes:
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Fri May-09-08 10:47 AM
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Fri May-09-08 09:43 AM
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Fri May-09-08 09:45 AM
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Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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18. Democratic Senator from Washington. |
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Fri May-09-08 09:57 AM
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28. Well..... that's debatable |
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Senator from Washington? Yes.
Democrat? Not so much :(
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Fri May-09-08 10:05 AM
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37. I supported her dem primary opponent....until she put him on her staff. |
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For $8,000 a month!
Then I got the clothespin out.
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Fri May-09-08 09:44 AM
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5. I am 25 so I guess maybe in 25 years we will have a women president |
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Fri May-09-08 09:45 AM
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7. Hillary Clinton. 2016. n/t |
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Fri May-09-08 09:46 AM
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Fri May-09-08 09:47 AM
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14. I think hillary Clinton is the only women who has the name recognition to be president of the US |
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everyone else will have a hard time.
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Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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Fri May-09-08 09:50 AM
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Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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20. I think the caption on your photo's wrong. |
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I'm not psychic by any stretch, but she looks to me as though she's thinking, "What a fucking moron this guy is."
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Fri May-09-08 10:29 AM
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Fri May-09-08 10:32 AM
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44. Only two ways that happens. |
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Either Obama loses to McCain, which is highly unlikely, or Obama wins and doesn't finish his first term. And that would be a hell of a thing for a Democrat to wish for.
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Fri May-09-08 09:45 AM
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9. I don't think we've met her yet. |
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I believe it will be a Dem, but I don't believe it will happen before 2024. :-(
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Fri May-09-08 09:46 AM
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11. There are lots of qualified women who aren't divisive, polarizing, and can bring people together |
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Hillary just isn't one of them.
Voting for Hillary just because she has a vagina is idiotic.
When will it happen? I don't know.... but it will happen when a woman runs for President who's not such a prick.
Yes... I used the word prick. If she was a man, that's what we'd all be calling her.
She lost because of who she is inside.... not because of her genitalia.
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Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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21. who said, that's the reason people vote for Hillary just because she is a women.. |
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I personally think she was the best candidate.. I guess it dumb of all those black peopele 92% in NC and everywhere else to vote for barrack because he is black..
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Fri May-09-08 10:00 AM
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31. The mere question in your OP implies it strongly.... |
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Otherwise.... who cares if she is a woman or not?
Why is that even a consideration? Asking the question "when will there be a woman president?" implies that being a woman has something to do with whether a person would make a good president or not.
By asking the question, you are signalling that her "femaleness" was at least a part of your decision to support her.
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Fri May-09-08 10:57 AM
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51. They voted for Obama because Hillary threw them under the bus |
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Yes there is probably some pride in voting for Obama, but he earned their votes. He did not get them merely by virtue of the fact that he was black. Hillary has pushed away the black voters by not so subtly proclaiming that a black man will never become president. Why would they vote for her after that? OTOH, Obama has been completely respectful to Clinton and to women in general. It's not the same thing at all.
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Fri May-09-08 09:47 AM
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13. I no longer think we will see a woman president |
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Apparently, the Powers That Be won't allow it. Black men got the vote fifty years before women were allowed to vote. That's an indication of how much value is place on female participation in our government.
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Fri May-09-08 09:47 AM
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15. VP Hillary Clinton wins Presidency, 2016. |
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Fri May-09-08 09:53 AM
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23. I can tell you categorically that there's no way in hell, and I mean NO way, |
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Hillary will be Obama's VP. He'd be a fool to put her on the ticket, and I've seen no evidence to indicate that he's a fool.
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Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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Probably another 50 years at least.
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Fri May-09-08 09:52 AM
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22. Do you think that Hillary Clinton's campaign this year wasn't a step forward for |
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women in politics? Or do you believe that she is the only woman who is capable of running for high office?
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Fri May-09-08 09:54 AM
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25. He thinks she's still in the race. |
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Fri May-09-08 09:57 AM
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27. There is such a gender gap... Someone who is not Hillary will have a tougher time getting the nom |
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Fri May-09-08 10:01 AM
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33. Actually it is the opposite. There are lots of women who aren't so polarizing and could win.... |
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Feinstein Mikulski Sebelius Cantwell Boxer
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Fri May-09-08 10:10 AM
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38. maybe.. but the general population who doesn't know people in politics won't know those women |
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Many Hispanic voted for hillary clinton just because of her name.. Same thing goes with FL and MI.. Obama didn't get much of the vote because they didn't know who he was..
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Fri May-09-08 10:02 AM
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35. There is, yes. But don't you see her campaign as a step forward for women? Don't you |
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think it would now be easier now than it was four years ago for a woman to present herself seriously as a Presidential candidate? Sure, Clinton has, through virtue of marriage, name-recognition advantages few others have. But I don't understand how anyone could look at politics now and think that Clinton didn't break down the viability door for women.
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Fri May-09-08 10:19 AM
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Every woman candidate before her was treated like a joke. The only reason Hillary wasn't was because she had the "establishment" behind her (at least at first) and could essentially run on the record of the only successful Dem president of the last 40 years. We'll see how the next woman who runs is treated, but I'm not optimistic that Hillary's candidacy really changed anything for *other* women candidates who don't have her advantages. My guess is, the MSM will go back to patting female candidates on the head with an "awww, isn't she cute" meme.
We'll see. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't think so.
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Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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19. If the GOP replaces McCain with a female candidate, it could happen this election. n/t |
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Fri May-09-08 10:51 AM
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50. I think there is a chance of that happening. |
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There is so little support for McCain (GOP, hate radio, corporate media) that sometimes it seems that he isn't the "real" candidate. They're up to somthing...:tinfoilhat:
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Fri May-09-08 09:54 AM
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...it will not be Hillary and it will not be in the 2008 GE. In my opinion, Hillary and the negative manner in which she conducted her campaign ruined it for a long time for any female who might want to take a shot.
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Fri May-09-08 09:55 AM
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26. Most likely guess would be someone who is a governor now |
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or becomes governor at some point between now and 2016.
Chris Gregoire Janet Napolitano Kathleen Sebelius
Jennifer Granholm is Canadian (and responsible for the current Michigan clusterfuck) so she's ineligible. And I don't see Kathleen Blanco of Louisiana having a snowballs chance in Hell either
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Fri May-09-08 09:58 AM
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29. 50 years after we have our first black male president. Just like with voting rights for women. |
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Women did not have the right to vote until 50 years after black men were afforded the right. Cynical? No, just realistic.
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Fri May-09-08 10:01 AM
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32. I probably won't see it then.. |
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Fri May-09-08 10:02 AM
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34. So... you admit that your goal is to see a "woman" president, no matter WHO she is? |
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Fri May-09-08 10:04 AM
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36. It would be nice to close the gender gap in politics. She would have to qualified, of course.. |
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Fri May-09-08 10:20 AM
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41. If I live to be 80 I might. |
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Fri May-09-08 09:59 AM
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30. We would be VERY lucky to have Jan Schakowsky for President in 2016. |
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http://www.janschakowsky.org/I have never seen her vote the wrong way. Ever. She makes me want to move to Illinois!
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Fri May-09-08 10:18 AM
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If Barack Obama picks a female VP, she will run and likely win in 2016.
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Fri May-09-08 10:31 AM
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43. I think it will be a Republican woman who is first |
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Not sure who, but that seems to be the combo that could work.
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Fri May-09-08 10:49 AM
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48. Have you seen Sarah Palin? |
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Fri May-09-08 10:34 AM
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Every false finger wagging at Hillary by Obama supporters gets her closer to the win. Negatives take away more votes than they gain votes.
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Fri May-09-08 11:03 AM
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Which member of the Parlock family might you be?
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Fri May-09-08 10:44 AM
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46. Nancy Pelosi 2008 (nt) |
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Fri May-09-08 11:27 AM
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No. . . no .. . no nO NOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Fri May-09-08 10:50 AM
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49. Vice President Hillary Clinton 2016 |
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Fri May-09-08 11:04 AM
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53. My daughter just turned 14, and she wants to be the first woman president. nt |
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