Today at Hillaryis44 (sorry, I can't resist)

[BL611]

Hillary Clinton’s People Politics vs. Barack Obama’s Thug Politics

"Barack Obama’s “New Politics” are really quite extraordinary. Obama’s “new politics” can be summarized as ‘get votes for free which you did not earn’.

The latest Chicago thuggery is a plan for Obama to get delegates in Michigan - a state in which Obama removed his name from the ballot!

Imagine that. A candidate does not run for election but gets votes. This surely is new - and dangerous, and undemocratic, and unwanted."

http://www.hillaryis44.com/

and it continues in this vein.Damn Obama's thuggery. Following the DNC rules and all. It's too bad Hillary's people politics didn't have enough people....

[mcctatas]

I love how they try to make it seem like it's all Obama's plan

these proposals come out of the state party and it is the credentials committee of the DNC who has the final call...

[Boz]

7. Damned if ya do Damned if ya dont

[NJmaverick]

1. LOL! Thanks for the joke post

I almost spewed on my monitor when the same people that claim Hillary running unopposed is part of the "democratic process" are whining about Obama getting MI delegates. Sometimes you can't beat real life for humor.

[newmajority]

2. Up is down. Right is Left. Multi-millionaires are "working class". Kids on food stamps are "elitist"

Who set up that site? The ghost of George Orwell?

[Aloha Spirit]

13. "ghost of George Orwell", classic.

[ShortnFiery]

3. Hey! I'm getting concerned about you BL611. Frequenting such sites will suck out your brain cells

faster than cocaine binges.

As a former counselor, I'm obligated to start AN INTERVENTION.

Just don't go there. <tease> :hi:

[BL611]

9. No Hillary44 is the best site ever,

After all I am a working, hard working American, white American.

[knixphan]

47. LOL!

[izzybeans]

4. I bet they think that he has Thug Life tatooed on his chest.

That word Thug seems to to be popping up in interesting ways. Very telling.

[redqueen]

43. Yup.. very.

*sigh*

[msallied]

5. My favorite argument

is that Obama shouldn't have taken his name off the ballot of an invalid race that he pledged not to participate in, but that it was totally okay for Hillary to participate in the same election, even though she signed the same pledge. It translates something like this:

"Well, if YOUR candidate had been as unethical as mine, we wouldn't even be IN this mess!"

[nomorewhopper]

6. morons, all of them

no need to be pc. anybody who espouses these views is an idiot, and anybody who condones her "white" speech is condoning racism

[IDemo]

8. RaptureReadyesque n/t

[thoughtcrime1984]

10. Pea-brains

Easy targets.

[enki23]

11. if that site didn't exist, it might be useful for an obama fan to invent it

an insane, nauseatingly pink honeypot.

[tridim]

12. Hillaryis44 is nothing more than an online asylum now.

It's embarrassing our party.

[Upton]

14. Why is it all pink?

Doesn't that represent a sexist stereotype?

[mcctatas]

64. Maybe Pepto-Bismol is their sponsor?

Every time I've been there I feel queasy afterwards, that site must do wonders for sales!

[tishaLA]

15. "Thug"? Jeebus

Who they fuck are they? Honestly. Do they call his Secret Service detail his "posse" too?

[panAmerican]

16. I bopped over there while DU was down and saw the "thug" reference too

It was only a matter of time till they went from ripping the "angry Black male" label off Rev. Wright, repackage it as the "thug" label, and slapping it on Obama. These things are deliberately done by degrees.

[tishaLA]

17. soon he'll be a "gangsta candidate"

[Binka]

29. Coming Soon "Pimp Daddy & His Ho"

Followed by "Pickaninny Maw Maw, Elevator Operator, & Shoeshine Boy." (My apologies to the Musical HAIR.)

[AtomicKitten]

18. I read an editorial in the SF Chronicle that pointed out

Hillary is entirely and solely responsible for turning (some) of her base to voting for McCain with her rabidly divisive style of politics. She has blamed Obama for her own shortcomings and continually denigrated him. It's her way or the highway and that attitude has had a trickle-down effect. She lacks the grace it takes to be an effective politician, perpetuating what has always been known about the Clintons: They have no apparent limit on their threshold of defiance and shame.

[Jed Dilligan]

19. Is "Chicago thuggery" being used as a code word for "Black,"

the way "New York lawyer" is a code word for "Jew"? I've seen it a couple of times. I can't imagine "Chicago" as a negative modifier, it's one of the best cities in this country, no, one of the only decent ones!

[burythehatchet]

27. of course it is. they are virulent racists. read the archives.

[Jed Dilligan]

30. I don't just mean there. "Chicago" this and that as a sneer at Obama

has appeared here and even more mainstream places. I just can't see "Chicago" as a negative. It's such a beautiful place and the people are so cultured.

[roseBudd]

59. the refernce to "Chicago" is supposed to imply machine politics corruption ie. Mayor Daly

[Jed Dilligan]

61. Good government is like good sausage...

[roseBudd]

62. Mayor Daly (May 15, 1902 – December 20, 1976)

[whistler162]

50. Nah... just a reminder of Daley politics and

oooops.... by extension JFK.

[oviedodem]

20. There are some real racist rants over there from time to time. One poster

insinuates that 50Cents will be in the White House.

[mcctatas]

65. 50 Cents?

there's more than one? ;)

[abburdlen]

72. wait a sec

I could swear 50 endorsed Clinton.
seriously

[mcctatas]

77. Like so many others....

not anymore!
"50 Cent, no longer down with politics, drops Clinton for Obama
50 Cent -- he's a rapper, for you political junkies who never turn
on anything but talk radio -- tells MTV that he's getting bored with
the whole presidential campaign. Last fall he was backing Hillary
Clinton but after the race speech he says he's now backing Barack Obama."

:hi:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/50-cent-no-long.html

[JMDEM]

21. Speaking of which -- where is our very own Hillaryis44?

Haven't seen her, and her pink button around in awhile.

[Kittycat]

83. Look downthread #35

Right on time to spread the hate and lies.

[FarrenH]

22. Who is behind the site?

A whois query reveals that the site was registered by godaddy.com's Domains By Proxy, with the caution that they register many sites on behalf of thrid parties and are unlikely to be the owners of the site. It seems that the real owner's don't want to be identified. The "About" page gets no more specific about the site owners than the word "we". Why the secrecy?

[billyoc]

23. I'm a thug. Obama's a lawyer. nt

[bowens43]

24. They're insane, they're crazier then a busload of freeprs!!

[grantcart]

25. We have medical ly trained folks here don't we

Is this a treatable condition?

[Binka]

32. Grant The Lack Of Oxygen From Having Their Head Up Hillary's Ass Is Not Reversible.

[burythehatchet]

26. When I read that whole pile of shite I could only think that

these are the type of deranged mental midgets that would try to kill someone they don't like. Seriously, I consider that place a hate group with members capable of anything.

[against all enemies]

28. Dishonest jerks. Criticizing Obama for wanting some Michigan

delegates.

"The latest Chicago thuggery is a plan for Obama to get delegates in Michigan - a state in which Obama removed his name from the ballot!" (Hillary is 44 website)

Are these clowns even Democrats? Calling Obama a "thug" for following the rules established by the DNC.

[Tellurian]

35. How can Obama be assigned a ratio of delegates when no one voted for him?

Or did that immaterial factoid slip through your ill reasoned post?

[BL611]

36. So we should give Hillary all the delegates

Because shes the only one who decided to break the rules??

Yes thats very well reasoned.

[Tellurian]

68. Leaving her name on the ballot didn't break the rules..

Try again!

[Blondbostonian]

39. Your site is filled with racist people with low IQ's

That's something to be proud of.

The fact that this website exists turns my stomach.

[Tellurian]

69. Why don't you post a link..

as an example...Otherwise, put up or shut up!

[Kittycat]

82. Plenty of links have been posted here in the past week.

We don't need to drudge up that racist shit again. Just go back to your KKK Site and leave us real dems alone. The racist hate at your site make me physically ill.

[burythehatchet]

81. Every creep has a right to their own site. Why DU allows these

motherfucking douchebags to post here is beyond me.

[bobbert]

42. worst. logic. ever. *PLONK*

I only use this in extreme circumstances. First you Hillbots were arguing 'seat them as if uncommitted was for Obama'. Now that you realize that won't win her the nom, it's 'nobody voted for Barack!'. Why don't you move to a country where there really is only one person on the ballot every election if you like that logic so much.

[washingdem]

45. Cause it didn't count?

[Forkboy]

46. Hey buddy! How's it going?

:pals:

[Yukari Yakumo]

57. Why legitimize that election in the first place? {nt}

uguu

[EmeraldCityGrl]

31. What Has Hillary Done to Deserve the Nomination?

"Barack Obama’s “New Politics” are really quite extraordinary. Obama’s “new politics” can be summarized as ‘get votes for free which you did not earn’.

Prior to her Senate election, Hillary's career highlights were as a corporate attorney. She was elected to the Senate in a state she had never lived in, literally handed to her on a silver platter.

Did she expect she would be handed the Democratic Nomination in the same manner? What were her accomplishments during her short career in the Senate that qualify her for the presidency?

Voting for the Patriot Act, The War in Iraq? What legislation is she responsible for that has made a significant difference in the lives of Americans?

I'm going to assume we all agree we are not qualified for a career by marriage or partnership.

[Lucky 13]

33. That site has become an oasis for the mentally imbalanced.

unreal.

[Binka]

34. NitWit Nirvana

[frylock]

38. it's the centrist's version of free republic..

what a bunch of maroons!

[grantcart]

37. you don't have to go that far -- if you go into some of the groups here

you can find the same stuff

[Exilednight]

40. Hillaryis44.com is nothing more than a bunch of right wing ass whipes. Anyone who identifies ......

with them should hold their head down in shame.

[Tellurian]

73. You're ALL Talk...PROVE IT!

[Exilednight]

76. Here you go. Only a right wing .......

ass wipe would say this about Democrats.



# Blue Democrat Says:
May 9th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

“he was statting the obvious… like a little bitch trying to play both sides of the fence.”

That's just one, and not even close to being the worst, that I found in the comments section of this post alone. http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=611

[boppers]

80. statting?

(facepalm)

So, okay, maybe they're *trying* to wear their education and intellect on their sleeves? Showing their "true colors" by trying to fail in spelling and grammar skills?

[GetTheRightVote]

41. The DNC took both Obama and Hillary not to put their names on it.

You need to check up on some of the facts.

[jenmito]

44. "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything."

Hillary's own words about MI.

[bobbert]

48. the link for those who forgot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg

[jenmito]

53. Thanks!

:hi:

[knixphan]

66. ding ding ding!

[knixphan]

49. You'll have to post some of the responses after

he's officially got the clinching number.

great entertainment...

like pouring salt over Rush Limbaugh...

[yodermon]

51. "Harold Ford, go park my car" one of them posted on Tues.

i shit you not.

[NorthernSpy]

79. don't forget "WHITE UNITE FOR HILLARY"!

I saved a bunch of that stuff.


:crazy:

[Doityourself]

52. If you venture over there..make sure you get vaccinated first. It's a snake pit.

[barack the house]

54. Flip flopping on rules might not be idal as we have seen with the GOP...

Hillary was for the rules before she was against them.

[Fox Mulder]

55. That website reminds me of Rapture Ready.

Full of nutcases.

[BL611]

56. Important Update!!!

Straight from the message board:

"Question:

If Hillary gets 75% of the vote in WV and KY and Puerto Rico,
And it goes 60-40 her way in Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota,
And she gets 87 delegates from Michigan (157 delegates x 55% of the vote, and NONE FOR OBAMA HA HA)
And 106 delegates from Florida (211 delegates x 50% of the vote is 106, with only 211 x 33% = 70 delegates for Obama)

Then she has 2,021 delegates already. You need 2209 to win, and there are way more than 200 more superdelegates left. PLUS, SUPERDELEGATES CAN SWITCH TO HILLARY CLINTON AT ANY TIME BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST!!!

There are probably more superdelegates going on her way too, because of add-ons from where Hillary Clinton did really, really well in a lot of parts of MI and FL. And there will be TONS of add-ons in WV and KY, where she will take every county in both states.

So why in the hell are people talking about how she can’t do math? The math’s right there in front of them! They’re too dumb to see it."

Yup you idiots are too stupid to see that if she wins the states shes supposed to win by 50 points and she wins the states shes not favored in by only 20 points, and they give all the delegates from MI & FL to Hillary, and make them count double so the DNC can show their appreication to them for breaking the rules, then Hillary can ride a flying pig to the convention to accept her nomination!!!ITS IN THE BAG!!!!

Time for Obama to drop out...

[roseBudd]

58. Hmm, what kind of people normally get labeled thugs? Black men, maybe?

[Indenturedebtor]

60. Bleh I'm never going there again. Those ppl have lost it n/t

[livingmadness]

63. They have and its very very sad

I think for the most part posters there are people who ran away from sites like this one and felt they found a haven at Hillary is 44 where they could support their candidate without criticism. Not a bad goal in and of itself, except that when you have no alternate voice, people become more extreme in their opinions (aka 'group think'). On top of that I'm pretty sure they have some serious freeper invaders who pretend to be Hillary supporters, but in fact stir the pot and encourage Obama-hatred and racism. Let the primaries be over ... I think there are some who have some serious grieving to do!

[LowerManhattanite]

67. So THAT's where the “thug” meme drifted in from...

I started seeing it bandied about here a few days ago (parroted by the usual known disruptors, griefers and dead-enders) post-NC/Indiana primaries as a descriptive and as a noun for Obama and it immediately struck me as barely-coded race-speak.

Well, now I know the provenance.

My iggy list was empty for about a day, and two went back on it for bandying that shit about.

God I can't wait till this season is over. :(

[Forkboy]

70. It's kind of like the movie Jesus Camp over there.

[davidpdx]

71. Honestly I think you shouldn't post that crap over here

As someone else, posting it gives it legitimacy.

[aaaaaa5a]

74. I honestly feel sorry for the hillaryis44 folks...

It's like when I would visit the Senior home to see my grandmother in her dying years. Everytime she would say something I would just hold her hand, nod, and "say you're right, you're right."


For some reason that's exactly what I feel like when I visit any of the Hillary forums.

[madrchsod]

75. from a site that.....

no one knows who runs it.

no one knows who funds it

solicits funds that no one can prove goes to hillary`s campaign.

it was the first democratic site that started using racial code words
and even compared barack to a ww2 german nazi

when obama is declared the winner will "hillary is 44" go gently into the night
or will it become what it may have been all along
nothing more than a anti-democratic site owned and operated by a republican....

[SoFlaJet]

78. oh so that's where that asshole I just put on ignore today

is getting all the "brown shirted nazi" bullshit from. What I'd LIKE to know is which moderator HERE sent him my PM's ABOUT him to other DUers-so what he was doing was responding to PM's I sent to somebody else ABOUT him-anybody else ever have that happen here?

[Kittycat]

85. I'm confused... A Moderator from DU sent your PMs to someone at Hillis44?

[frickaline]

84. This post is a horrble spin full of lies but I do wish they'd seat these voters anyway

just not for the 'reasons' in this post.

[JVS]

86. After the nomination maybe they'll change the name to...

www.crazierthanshithouserats.org