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Fri May-09-08 02:19 PM
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How is Obama an unknown??? |
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Didn't he write TWO BOOKS, one of which is practically an autobiography???
Hasn't he been in PUBLIC OFFICE for over 10 years???
How the hell is he an unknown??? What ELSE do you need to know???
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Fri May-09-08 02:20 PM
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1. Dont you get it? He's a "scary black man".... woooooooo, be vewwy fwightened........ |
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Fri May-09-08 02:23 PM
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2. had anybody outside IL heard of him until the 2004 convention? |
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how many copies of his books sold before then?
what else do I need to know? how many other parts of himself is he going to deny? where is the white part of his family in all his campaigning? and why did he throw his friend, mentor and spiritual advisor under the bus, rather than acknowledge that what the good rev has been saying for all his years as a pastor is what many blacks feel?
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Fri May-09-08 02:27 PM
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5. so because someone is not Mr Popularity, he is not worthy????? |
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And you are prevented from reading his book and looking at his PUBLIC RECORD in the Illinois State Senate???
By that logic, maybe Jay Leno or Howard Stern is better qualified.
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Fri May-09-08 02:31 PM
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7. I am simply answering your question. sorry you cannot comprehend that |
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I know his very thin record in IL, and his two books haven't impressed me.
not everybody sees him the same way you do. I have a great many concerns about him, despite the view of many here on DU that he is just about the greatest thing to hit politics.
and guess what? I am entitled to my views, just as his supporters are.
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Fri May-09-08 02:33 PM
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11. Let me answer this in a historical way |
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what you just wrote, I could have written about JFK in 1959, or 1960 In fact Senator Kennedy wrote ONLY ONE book... Now do read this http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5894592&mesg_id=5894592
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Fri May-09-08 02:45 PM
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had been a Senator for 7 years, and a representative for 6 years when he ran.
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Fri May-09-08 02:48 PM
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15. do we learn something different about a person depending on which Senate they are in? |
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I mean if he votes on taxes in a state does it say something different then if he votes on taxes in the US Senate?
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Fri May-09-08 08:55 PM
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20. Yes, they're different |
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for instance, we're told his "present" votes on choice issues is perfectly appropriate for the Illinois Legislature.
Plus, state legislatures deal with state issues - the US congress deals with national issues. And a state legislator isn't exactly in the national spotlight.
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Fri May-09-08 02:41 PM
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He talks about his family in EVERY stump speech - all sides of his family. It's one of this primary talking points.
And all the hillbots were HOWLING for him to separate himself from his pastor - now you use that separation as a talking point AGAINST him? Damned if you do - damned if you don't. In any case he very reluctantly severed those ties, which had been fraying for a very long time.
Got any more slanders?
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Fri May-09-08 02:24 PM
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3. Thin resume for the presidency -short and undistinguished career in the Senate |
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Edited on Fri May-09-08 02:24 PM by depakid
that's the line you'll hear from now until November in he gets the nod -and there's some truth to that.
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Fri May-09-08 02:26 PM
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4. He has a short history |
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on the national stage. There's no denying that.
The big problem is going to be when his more rabid supporters here get to know him better and learn he's... surprise! a politician! Right now you're in the swoon-stage of a love affair, but that doesn't last forever. He's going to let you down. He's going to make compromises that piss you off.
He just hasn't had much of a chance to piss you off yet. Clinton's had 16 years to do it.
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Fri May-09-08 02:32 PM
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8. exactly. I think a lot of his supporters are in for some very big surprises and disappointments |
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Fri May-09-08 02:27 PM
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6. For example, we don't know if he is a secret Muslim or a Rev.Wright doppelgänger Christian |
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Fri May-09-08 02:33 PM
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9. anyone could be a secret anything |
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Fri May-09-08 02:51 PM
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17. Excellent point. I'm going to call Rush and ask if he's heard anything about Obama being a secret |
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Fri May-09-08 02:33 PM
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10. He wasn't well known nationally |
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He was still a big fish in a little pond until this race put him in the national limelight.
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Fri May-09-08 02:42 PM
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13. Same way Bill Clinton was an unknown in 1992 |
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Fri May-09-08 03:05 PM
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18. And Jimmy Carter in 1976..... |
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But they were both young Governors with a track record of running a state. That's pretty hefty public experience.
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Fri May-09-08 03:11 PM
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19. I remember what Ross Perot thought of Clinton's experience. |
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Fri May-09-08 02:48 PM
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16. Pfft. Like Americans read. |
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