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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:50 PM
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At this point, Hillary Clinton is worse than Ralph Nader.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:52 PM
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1. Dooga dooga dooga!
:P
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:53 PM
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3. If they were still campaigning here, there is a good chance that I would do that.
:P
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:52 PM
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2. "I'm the only real agent of change running for President."
"There's no difference between McCain and Obama!"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:54 PM
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5. I actually don't mean to say that I'd vote for Nader instead of Hillary in the general.
But her negative effect on the party is probably worse than Nader's will be this time around.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:54 PM
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4. That's a tough call, Nader's damage is now a know given
He has to bear responsibility for allow bush to start the Iraq war. As for Hillary, her damage has the potential to be as great, but we don't know if it will reach that potential.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:05 PM
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8. Gore won!
Corrupt U.S. Supreme W. Court, not Nader. :patriot:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:23 PM
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16. Both. Plus crooks in Florida.
Nader knew what he was doing.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 04:59 AM
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21. It wouldn't have been close enough to steal if not for that egomanic
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:55 PM
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6. Hillary has said that she will support the Dem nominee in the
general.

Nader ran AGAINST the Dem nominee in the general in 2000 and 2004. I think he's hoping to do the same in 2008.

You people who are fixated against Hillary are just wasting energy.

The election will be between Obama and McCain.

Are you planning to vote for McCain?????

If not, then quit obsessing about Hillary and turn your attention to the real opponent.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:57 PM
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7. I think even if she does support the nominee, she's cost us more votes than Nader will this time.
No, I'm not planning on voting for McCain. And I would vote for Hillary over McCain. But I think at this point she's done more damage than Nader will.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:14 PM
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10. I agree. HRC might be able to turn off the anti-Obama rhetoric...
...but I think she's done such a good job of creating fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) regarding Obama that she has damaged the Democrats chances. Even though she won't be running 3rd party in November (God, I hope not), she has done a bang-up job of poisoning the (Democratic) well. Way to go, HRC.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:07 PM
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9. That's absurd
If Hillary stays in after June 1st, then you have an argument that she MIGHT be in Nader territory. But waiting this out until all of the primaries are done won't make a dime's worth of difference when it comes to the General Election. If there is no cutoff date (like June 1st), though, then we do indeed have a problem.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:15 PM
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11. Holy shit!
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:15 PM
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12. So where's your "Fuck Hillary" avatar?
:evilgrin:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:15 PM
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13. Knowing your opinion of Nader, that means a lot coming from you.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:20 PM
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14. So she is more of a "pumpkin fucker" in your parlance? nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:35 PM
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18. Well, it is hard for a female to be a pumpkin fucker.
Edited on Fri May-09-08 10:35 PM by LoZoccolo
I guess that's a sexist distinction, but oh well. Still, I think the group of people she has taken from Obama in the general will be bigger than the one Nader takes this time around, and for that, more shame.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:20 PM
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15. Uh, no. Nader torpedoed Gore and gave us Bush. If we lose because of Hillary, then we can talk.
Save that thought for later.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:33 PM
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17. Hillary is a great woman.
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dylan33 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:11 PM
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19. With alot
More support than Nader ever had.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:40 PM
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20. I'll be so glad when she goes away.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 05:16 AM
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22. Yeah
but she's still better than Oasis.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 05:39 AM
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23. You are not fit to lick Hillary Clinton's boots.
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