Calling all superdelegates: We need a joint ticket. Please make it happen!

[Apollo11]

My preference is for CLINTON-OBAMA, but I would also support the reverse combination.

C'mon folks - you have to admit this would be our strongest ticket against John McCain!

It would unite all the 35 million Democrats who took part in the primaries and caucuses up until now.

Everyone would feel included. Nobody could say they had been "thrown under the bus".

Plus - if we are smart enough to put the older candidate at the top of the ticket - it would potentially set us up for 16 years of progressive leadership for America and the world!

The superdelegates have the power to turn this dream into a reality. They should do it! B-)

[davidpdx]

1. Nope

[gaiilonfong]

2. NO WAY...NO MORE NEOCON HILLARY

She will LOSE her senate seat in 2010 too.
GOOD RIDDANCE

[Summer of 41]

3. YES WAY. West Virginia proved it is either that or a McCain presidency

"he brings in new voters!". F that, half of them are hillary voters who hate him.

[Apollo11]

5. "YES WAY"! - I like your attitude!

:hi:

[gaiilonfong]

6. Hillary=McCain=NEOCONS

Hillary LOST

GOOD RIDDANCE

[Auntie Bush]

105. Why do you post bullshit?

You know full well that isn't true. Why are you spreading rumors about a fellow liberal Democrat with the same voting record as Obama.

Stop repeating old warn out untrue memes. This shouldn't be on a gossip board!
Go post your fairy tales in the Lounge...where it is more appropriate...but still a lie....or is that where you picked up your information?

Next time you post a lie...post a link!

[bowens43]

39. West Virgina proved nothing other then they prefer hillary.

it certainly didn't prove that hillary can win the state or that she is more likely to do so in the GE.

[Summer of 41]

42. 40!

I'd call that a sign.

[democracy1st]

55. 8-10 delegates ,remember Hill doesn't like small states

[shadowknows69]

72. West Virginia didn't prove shit

[Clark2008]

79. I'm not really all that worried about five electoral college delegates.

Let the racists - in any state - slop around in their hate.

[psychopomp]

82. You must not be aware of the facts of the matter: Obama won more lopsided victories by far

Obama (20 + point victories)

Alaska +50
Colorado +34
Georgia +35
Idaho +63
Illinois +32
South Carolina +28
Kansas +48
Minnesota +34
North Dakota +24
Louisiana +24
Nebraska +36
Washington +37
Maine +20
DC +51
Maryland +25
Virginia +29
Hawaii +52
Vermont +20
Wyoming +23
Mississippi +24

[The Doctor.]

100. Answer me this;

"Do you actually believe WV could go to the Dem ticket in November?"

How on Earth could you back that up?

[themaguffin]

116. That's flawed thinking. It's not logical at all.

[Apollo11]

4. It's a sad reflection on how bad things have gotten here at DU

that some of us see a post calling for unity and instantly have to flame it.

[gaiilonfong]

7. After what Hillary(NeoCon-NY) has done

you want UNITY....bwahahahahahah

Now that the Clintonistas see the writing on the wall and Her Majesty the inevitable has LOST they want unity...NO WAY .....she gets NOTHING she lost!

[democraticinsurgent]

8. Unity only makes sense if the candidates work toward it

Unfortunately, Mrs. Clinton has only self-unity in mind or she would have stepped out weeks ago.

[Apollo11]

10. "self-unity"??

Well, thanks anyway for kicking my thread!

:kick:

[Oleladylib]

28. yes, and the bamababy can't even look her in the eye...what a wimp.

[DontTreadOnMe]

9. What is really sad...

is there are people who still can't face the reality that Hillary is not going to win.
Cry all you want... the rest of us are now moving on.

[Apollo11]

14. The superdelegates have the power to unite the party

Whether they use that power or not is ultimately up to them.

And whether you like it or not is up to you.

[gaiilonfong]

19. superdelegates want to get RID of the ClintonS once and for all

now is their chance...IF...they don't the ClintonS will do what they did in the 90's RUIN the dem majority and take the party over the cliff with them...I am trusting that the supers remember what they did and reward them accordingly....

[Oleladylib]

30. Of course you can say Prez McCain.

[MonkeyFunk]

25. Clinton's not a conservative

what a silly idea. She's as liberal as Obama is.

[Oleladylib]

27. Good for you ..you just elected a republican prez...be proud...

[midnight]

68. What makes Hillary a neocon? And why will she loose her

seat in 2010? I thought she was popular in her district?

[McCamy Taylor]

11. Yes, and I believe that the GOP is scared shitless of the unity ticket and Freepers will say NO!

because this ticket will get all the Dems who voted in the primary to the polls this fall, and all McCain will get are the few Republicans who voted, and the Dems will do ok with the Independents, too.

[AtomicKitten]

12. No thanks. She lost. Get over it.

[Apollo11]

21. If you have a better suggestion

for ensuring that the 17 million folks (the majority of them longtime registered Democrats) who voted for Hillary in the primaries and caucuses will be able to enthusiastically support the Democratic ticket all the way through the fall, I hope you will share it with us.

[AtomicKitten]

24. I'm fine with half her supporters. Barack has expanded the electorate

such that this kind of blackmail that hearkens back to olde tyme politics is moot. Barack has created a new paradigm whereby the 2000/2004 templates Hillary keeps insisting on and trying to impose are obsolete.

In other words, he not only doesn't need her, she'd be a drag on the ticket. She is the antithesis of his message of change.

Besides that Hillary has lobbed some salvos that are, quite frankly, unforgivable. I was never going to reward her for her IWR and Kyl-Lieberman votes anyway; I sure as hell feel no love for her for the way she has run her campaign.

She's shit out luck and it's time for her supporters to pull up their socks and do what they're going to do with her no longer a contender. If her supporters are threatening 50%, so be it. I consider it gravy.

[Apollo11]

29. If 8 million Democrats vote for John McCain in November - then we will lose.

That right there is exactly what I am afraid of.

[AtomicKitten]

36. well, perhaps you should have a word with your fellow Clinton supporters

Barack has and will win the nomination fair and square.

You need to acquaint yourself with that fact and stop the veiled threats vis a vis ironically a concern post and get over it.

Barack has a deep bench of fine Democrats to choose from for VP, Democrats who can actually augment the ticket and not create drama 24/7. His donor base and ground game are second to none. His candidacy puts at least 10 red states into play.

Democrats will be fine, thanks for you concern. Now you and the rest of your fellow Clinton supporters need to decide if you're on board, or not. But, please, Democrats have had just about enough of Clinton strong-arm politics, no matter how nicely you phrase it.

Sorry to be a hardass but you really need to stop. It's over for Hillary and she needs to muster the grace and good sense to do the right thing and bow out. Barack has a general election to begin.

[bowens43]

40. if they prefer McCain to Obama - fuck em. How about that.

better to lose with obama then 'win' with that morally and ethically bankrupt war monger.

[Apollo11]

51. 17 million of your fellow democrats voted for Senator Clinton to be the nominee

Why would they do that if she was a "morally and ethically bankrupt war monger"?

Is it because they are all racists?

Or are they just plain dumb? :eyes:

[Doityourself]

69. Just like a great deal of blacks would vote for Hillary if she was the nom, a great deal of Hills

supporters will vote for Obama. Neither will receive 100% but they'll do just fine.

There are a great deal of more qualified candidates for Obama's VP, that beat out Hillary.

[marions ghost]

115. yep

that's the truth of it, beyond all the hype and wishful thinking.

The "unity ticket" plays into unfounded fears.

[mod mom]

80. Can you imagine having Bill Clinton second guessing your every decision and going public w his

thoughts? I wouldn't wish that on Sen Obama. There is too much bad blood and the Clinton's have demonstrated they are poor losers-imho

Obama's strategy has been outlined with the Poblano Model-registering new voters and building the party!

[MonkeyFunk]

26. How quickly

you guys adopt the right-wing stances of the past. You're indistinguishable from freepers now.

I remember when the right-wing wanted to disenfranchise Florida, obsessed about the Clenis, and told us "you lost - get over it."

[AtomicKitten]

38. Wrong -- Telling the truth is the OPPOSITE of Freeper.

But leave it to a Clinton supporter to confuse the two. Understandable considering the input you get. It's over for Hillary regardless of how mean you think that truth is.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. LOL

So when you act exactly like them, you're doing the opposite? No, sorry.

You guys are as bad as the freepers ever were. You lie like they do. You distort and smear and make shit up like they do. You hate like they do.

You've become them - you just have (d) after your name.

[AtomicKitten]

112. we'll miss you

:hi:

[Voltaire]

123. Make up shit????? From a Clinton supporter??!!!!

That is rich coming from the likes of you. Who makes up more shit than the Clinton campaign?

[ima_sinnic]

13. right--just what Obama needs, a scheming backstabber undermining him 24/7

it appears that this idiotic idea is going to be trotted out every single day until Obama announces his VP. And by the way, he makes that decision, not the superdelegates.

why would he want someone like that, who said McCain was more qualified than he was, who insinuated he might be Muslim (as though that mattered, appealing to the hatred and ignorance in voters instead of their better qualities), who made sure that Wright became an issue, who represents old, stale, backroom dirty-deal politics as usual? Someone who would be plotting against him 24/7?

And what about Bill's little side show 24/7? The big freakin media hoopla? Where does President Obama fit into this, exactly?

she is a freaking LOSER. He can do 100 times better than the DLC corporate ass-kisser greed-head payola grubber who doesn't give a s**t about him, you, me, or anybody except Hillary, Queen of the Low-Information Ignoramus Party. Give this STUPID idea a rest. She is a goddam Republican Democrat and I would instantly lose any enthusiasm I have for Obama for being totally insane, and would never in a million years vote for that ticket.

[gaiilonfong]

15. GREAT POST ima

hit the nail right on the neocon head!

[Apollo11]

20. It wasn't my idea to put Obama at the top of the ticket

In any case - I will support the Democratic ticket either way.

My main concern is how can we ensure victory in November.

[SwampG8r]

85. they started pushing this "unity" meme hard yesterday

cafferty said on cnn when they asked about her as VP
"does obama have a food taster?"
hard to even say "unity"on this subject without laughing
hillary is to unity what water was to the titanic

[shaniqua6392]

16. I think they are going to do it.

It will be Obama/Clinton. You might as well start printing the lawn signs now. He is going to have to take her on the ticket in order to win. I have always thought they should do this. United we stand and divided we fall. They are two very strong candidates and we would actually be able to get stuff done in Washington. That is my humble opinion.

[Oleladylib]

31. It'll work..I suppose...I'm still not sure it'll take it!

[AlabamaBrightBlueDot]

17. Not just no....

... but Hell no!

[cali]

18. I have no objection to Obama/Clinton but the SDs don't have the

ability to force it.

[hokies4ever]

22. The Pres nominee will select his V.P.

and no strong-arming will force his decision. Now we see Hillary supporters moving her coronation from the Pres nominee to the V.P. nominee. "She's earned it." Just another variation of, "It's her turn." This is a democracy, not a monarchy. The nominee selects the V.P. If Hillary wants it so bad, let her make her case. If she doesn't get it, she has only herself to blame. "Obama just has a speech he gave in 2002." As if McCain won't use that same exact quote during the fall debates. If Obama picks her, I'll be for it. If he doesn't, then I'll be for that as well.

[Apollo11]

23. But the superdelegates can say this to Hillary:

"We are willing to support you as the nominee but only if you agree to have Barack Obama as your running mate. Otherwise we will have to go with Obama because he has the most pledged delegates."

I am not sure they will do it. But I think they should! B-)

[bowens43]

34. Wow! How stupid is that. Obama is the nominee

and he will veto the idea of hillary being on the ticket. Hillary is not presidential material. She has been soundly rejected.

[Petrushka]

43. Hm-m? Not only CAN they say it, they MIGHT have already seen the (uh) wisdom in doing just that?!

Time for ---> :popcorn:








;-)

[hokies4ever]

59. Even if the superdelegates gave the nom to Hillary

Obama would just say that he won't run on the ticket and they'll be forced to give it back to him. Hillary as the nominee without Obama on the ticket = big loss and a divided party.

[Petrushka]

65. Aw-w, now you're tryin' to pull my leg. He'd prefer "a divided party" to "unity"? That's selfish!

:hide:

[hokies4ever]

103. It's his ULTIMATE superdelegate argument

one which he has not made. No need to make it since he's ahead. But if push came to shove and Hillary tried to steal the nomination with a superdelegate coup, that's his ace-in-the-hole card. It's not pretty to play, but he could play it if he wanted to, in private of course. And that my dear is why Hillary can't win.

[Petrushka]

111. Honest? Ultimately, the "unity" and "hope" candidate would prefer McCain? Hm-m. Interesting.

:popcorn:

[hokies4ever]

58. Obama's ULTIMATE superdelegate argument

for that scenario is that he will refuse to be V.P. Just because he isn't making that case publicly doesn't mean that he won't make it privately. Fact is Hillary's path to victory is dependent upon both a superdelegate coup and Obama being on the ticket.

[Oleladylib]

32. He's not strong..yes, an idealist, ...but he's not an eye to eye candidate

especially with strong females...just watch!

[bowens43]

33. No, we don't need this.

Hillary on the ticket would defeat the purpose. It would destroy our chances in the GE. Hillary is a loser hoping to ride into the oval office on Obama's coat tails. It's not happening.

[nebula]

35. Joint Ticket = Epic Fail in November

You get the lamest idea of the month award!

[WeDidIt]

37. Unacceptable

Obama won the right tpo choose his running mate.

[RichardRay]

41. I want a Clinton surrogate on the ticket.

I don't think it can be Senator Clinton, herself, but it should be someone with ties to her who can represent her constituency while still supporting Senator Obama; thus my preference for Wes Clark in the VP slot. I think Senator Clinton has years of service left in the senate, hopefully as majority leader at some point.

[Name removed]

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[dkf]

44. No Ms. Obliterate Iran on the ticket period...

[workinclasszero]

46. Just say no to pro-war neocons...Just say no to DLC'ers

Just say no to those who divide us by race and class.

Just say HELL NO to Hillary Clinton as VP!

Why would a sane person put the least liked, least trusted pol in America, second only to George Bush, on a ticket??

Independents would hate pulling a lever for Hillary and so would I.

[Apollo11]

49. So the "least liked" politician in America just won the W.V. primary by more than 40 points?

I guess that makes it even more of an amazing achievement by the best woman for the job! B-)

[MonkeyFunk]

57. They actually believe

that Clinton is widely disliked, despite the fact that she's about as popular as Obama.

It's a sickness.

[workinclasszero]

106. Oh I'm sorry, you are right

Operation Chaos voters in WV, Ohio, Pennsylvania like Hillary. But they will all go home to McCain in the GE cause Rush will tell them to.

[cjsmom44]

47. Re: Nighmare Ticket

What are you crazy....
It would be the nightmare ticket

They hate each other...

bad blood

like a bad marriage....

very big mistake...

Obama would NEVER put her on the ticket...ever...

[SwampG8r]

86. bad marriage?

hmmmmmmm
maybe she could be VP
hadnt factored in her ability to deal in a bad marriage scenario

[slinkerwink]

50. Hell, no. She'd completely backstab him as VP.

[Apollo11]

54. OK well then let's put Hillary at the top of the ticket

That way Barack Obama can preside over the US Senate for the next 8 years, before taking over the Presidency in January 2017.

Think about it: 16 years of progressive leadership for America and the world.

Three words: "YES WE CAN" B-)

[Doityourself]

71. Ha Ha..you know it aint gonna happen..Hillary couldn't take the lead with all her pluses..

140+ million

name recognition

Clinton machine..

The Big Dog


Now What does that tell you..hmmmm..they were both knocked sideways by a Junior Senator! History will look back at his trump of the Clintons and blow silver horns..

[Zachstar]

52. Hell NO!

[my3boyz]

53. I hope hell freezes over first! I won't even respond to that shit about Clinton/Obama. nt

[Apollo11]

56. Is that the HOPE your candidate keeps talking about?

:eyes:

[SwampG8r]

87. heres some hope for ya

i hope hillary goes home to wherever she says that is today,and stops her swath of ruination
shes unfit for high office
she is mentally flawed
if obama picks her then all you clintonistas would be right
he would be just a politician like hillary and i could no longer support him

[tekisui]

60. Forget it, Hillary won't be on the ticket.

She motivates the pukes.

[Coexist]

61. No thank you.

[npincus]

62. Yech. It's a myth that Hillary's voters will take their toys and go home

if she loses. Unless they've been in a coma for the past 8 years. They really want President McCain?

[JTFrog]

63. Ridiculous assumption. A warmonger on the ticket seals the deal for McSame.

Why vote for someone who acts like a republican instead of the real republican?

[sofa king]

64. I think it would be a nice ticket.

While I have thoroughly enjoyed the primaries and feel that the benefits to the party as a whole are enormous and as yet unrecognized by most, there is no question that feathers have been ruffled and need to be smoothed.

I don't think Obama is naive enough to let the Clintons run roughshod over him, although if the two line up then the cabinet-level positions will probably include a lot of faces we oldtimers are familiar with.

Suddenly, I've just had a glimpse at a silver lining from seven years of criminal fascism: the position of Vice President can be a very important and useful role. That, of course, was necessary because an idiot man-child is currently at the helm and the running of the country cannot be fully entrusted to him.

But, imagining a day when the political stars align and the Democrats have a good solid two to four years of unobstructed reconstruction (yes, reconstruction, just as if this nation had been raided by hordes of pillaging Vandals), an experienced President of the Senate could be a godsend to the Democratic cause. Both candidates are qualified for that position--it's just that one might well be pissed to find herself back in the Senate.

In 1980, the Reagan camp supposedly made a genuine offer to Gerald Ford. Ford said he'd take the offer, if the position were treated as part of a co-Presidency. (Needless to say, that idea was dropped and our troubles effectively began from that point.)

A similar arrangement would need to be in place for this ticket to succeed after election day. If Mrs. Clinton could hammer out a new role for the office, one in which the White House's legislative agenda is clearly plotted and planned by the Vice President (and President of the Senate), some really good things could be done.

And while we're packing the ticket with White House experience, I think two of the top five cabinet positions should be offered to the other people who were elected President: Al Gore and John Kerry.

We could wind up with a five-President Presidency. If it worked, I'll bet it would work really damned well.

[mdmc]

66. yuck

:(

[Doityourself]

67. NO frickin' way.....no no no no no ugh

[HooptieWagon]

70. NO! Clinton only brings 35 years of baggage to the ticket.

Why the hell should Obama tie himself to That anchor? Plus, he doesn't need Bill hanging around in the background, nor DLC influence in his administration.

[TBF]

73. She has lost. None of the other candidates are threatening Barack - they all bowed out gracefully.

Except for her highness. It is over, Hillary, move on.

[Hepburn]

74. Why in the world should the loser be on the ticket ANYWHERE...

...let alone in the top spot?

Hillary lost. End of discussion. She is NOT change ~~ she is part of what Obama plans to get rid of in Washington.

No Hillary.

[jhain]

75. UGH

Just...UGH.

No more corporate plants.
No more Clintons.

-from a middle-aged woman

[Barack_America]

76. Your candidate ran a horrible camapaign and lost.

It's time to accept this and consider moving on.

[graycem]

77. Uh, no

they do not have that power. The decision belongs to the nominee, Senator Obama. If he thinks he can deal with Hillary's negatives and Bill's baggage, maybe he'll choose her. In the end, the choice will be his and his alone.

"Plus, if we were smart enough to put the older candidate at the top of the ticket to get the 16 years?" She would've needed to like, you know, WIN, to get that honor. Further, if he does choose her, she will still be in plenty good enough shape in 8 years to run with the VP advantage.

Sorry, threats didn't work just as sweet talk and suggestion won't get her that top spot. The only way you get the top spot is by like, you know, winning. :)

[greguganus]

78. Won't happen. Michelle said no way will Princess Pantsuit be Obama's VP n/t

[ShortnFiery]

81. No WAY! HRC will be lucky to keep her Senate Seat. eom.

[susankh4]

83. I think George McGovern agrees with you:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/opinion/13mcgovern.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin


And he just might know something about what happens when the party "splits wide open." I think that is how he said it....

[IsItJustMe]

84. I, for my part, will call the superdelegates and tell them. "Oh HELL no".

[Terran]

88. I admit no such thing

There are LOTS of other people who be great with Obama. I see absolutely zero reason to pick Mrs. Clinton.

[dysfunctional press]

89. ABSOLUTELY NOT!! the people want CHANGE- that means NO CLINTON.

she LOST. get over it already.

[Apollo11]

94. 17 million want Hillary. 17 million want Obama. That means JOINT TICKET!

This is the point I am trying to make here.

[dysfunctional press]

109. that's not at all how it works- and your numbers are wrong.

more people want obama- that's why he's winning.

and the WINNER gets to pick their running mate- they aren't "appointed" one.

THAT'S how it works.

shrillary needs to slink her ass back to new york, and hope that she hasn't blown her chances at even retaining her senate seat next time around.

[CakeGrrl]

90. Yeah, must be a Rove/McAuliffe blast fax judging from the OPs this mnorning

Since when do the SDs have anything to do with forcing a joint ticket?

At any rate, that ship has sailed. The Clinton campaign is more poisonous by the day as they either lie in wait like vultures for something to happen to Obama or try to shove the invalid MI and FL votes into Hillary's column.

I hope they're burning up their political clout a little more every day they drag this out. This is not helping a Democratic effort to defeat McCain.

[Apollo11]

92. FACT: Hillary helped Obama last night

Do you honestly think that Obama would have won the West Virginia primary if Hillary had quit last week? :eyes:

It is better for Obama to lose a contest to a candidate who is actively campaigning than lose to one who already quit.

[CakeGrrl]

95. I don't think it would have mattered. She was always expected to win

And based on the number of blowouts for Obama compared to Clinton, WV is an outlier.

They're trying to whip this up as another turning point, but even that has lost some of the media oomph with which they tried to play up her OH and PA wins. It's winding down, and we need to move on to the GE.

[Apollo11]

96. If you are the only candidate left in the race, losing a contest matters a lot.

The media would have been all over the story if Obama had lost a Democratic primary after all the other candidates already quit the race. Axelrod would have been spinning like crazy!

[OnionPatch]

91. Every once in awhile I wish I could unrecommend a post.

And this is one of them. Clinton would drag down Obama. No way. I hope and pray this doesn't happen.

[Apollo11]

93. Unlucky for you - that is not yet possible

But thanks anyway for the kick!

:kick:

[mrgorth]

97. No

First, she's lost so get over the Clinton/Obama meme. Second, NO seperate power structure for the Clintons within the WH. Party's over.

[Celebration]

98. How about Obama-Rendell

Rendell appeals to Hillary supporters but does not have the incredible baggage of Clinton.

[Douglas Carpenter]

99. sounds like a GREAT idea, but..................will it sell in small town America?

Hillary's greatest weakness in the general election is that she has almost no cross over appeal. She is deeply despised by almost all Republicans and has considerably less support among independents than Sen. McCain or Sen. Obama. Although she has poled better than Obama among white male Democrats - as a demographic she is generally disliked by independent white male working class voters and all the more so in the South, the West and in small town and mid size cities. The fact that she has scored well in West Virginia and other such primaries was in contrast to Sen. Obama in a Democratic primary - This would be quite different that in contrast to Sen. McCain in a general election.

In order to win the Democrats have to have a ticket that can carry at least some states from either the West, the South or Southern border states. Although it is a given that McCain and the Republicans will win most of rural America and most white males votes -- in order to win - the Democrats have to make a respectable showing in rural America and among white males. I cannot see how Hillary on the ticket would strengthen the ticket in either the West or the South (including border states) or strengthen the ticket among white males and or help make a respectable showing in small town and mid size city America. Obama's weakest points in a general election is in Southern and border states and among white males and in small towns/mid size cities, outer suburbs and rural areas.

In the state by state counting that Obama would need in order to win a general election this would play out very differently than exclusive Democratic Party caucuses and primaries in places like Wyoming or North Carolina; or West Virginian for that matter. For Sen. Obama to win, I cannot see how he can do it without broadening his appeal in these areas. And I do not see how Hillary would be anything but a hindrance. So from my point of view, the V.P. candidate needs to be a populist Southerner or Westerner or border stater who appeals to white males and who would have appeal in small towns, outer suburbs, rural areas and mid size cities.

This is where the weakness lies with the Democratic Party whether it is in the South, the North, the East or the West. Even in a fairly Democratic state like Pennsylvania or New York, the city areas and immediate suburbs tend to go strongly Democratic with the outer suburbs, small towns and cites and rural areas going strongly Republican.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm

[newmajority]

101. 28 years of BushClinton trickle down corporatist reverse robin hood middle class destroying bullshit

No Clintons on this ticket. No Clintons on any future ticket. Fuck the DLC.

[truebrit71]

102. No thanks. The only ticket that woman belongs on is the McCain/Clinton ticket...

...they seem to have such an affinity for one another and she curiously rarely (if ever) attacks him...

[Pisces]

104. No thank you, Obama will do just fine without her.

[Harry Monroe]

107. Calling all superdelegates. Please put an end to this charade now!!!

[madrchsod]

108. she needs to make a very convincing speech at the convention

to regain her place in the party. if she can be sincere in front of the convention and fully endorses obama with out a hint of bitterness then the party will be united. if she does`t it will not look good for us in november

[BlooInBloo]

110. It's patently obvious that Clinton on the ticket will sink us.

[windbreeze]

113. no more C in the WH...

time to give someone else a chance...IF I were Obama...there's no way in hell I would pick that running mate...IF she can't win the nomination after all these years on the political circuit, and in the public eye...then it tells me that the people are tired of the status quo...for Obama to have gotten this far against her...should tell us all something..PEOPLE WANT CHANGE....wb

[Beacool]

114. Personally,

It's the only way that I would vote for Obama. But, why bother? The Obama fans think that they can win this election without our support or Hillary's. Let them continue to believe that and we'll see who wins in November.

:crazy:

[AzDar]

117. No more Clintons, No more Bushes, No more taking it in our tushes!!

[ClayZ]

118. No!

[backscatter712]

119. Forget it.

I do not want that narcissistic racist liar dragging down Obama.

Clinton needs to be sidelined.

Hell, we could come up with a fund to have her spend the rest of the election season out of the media's reach somewhere nice, like the Virgin Islands? Give her a nice vacation in exchange for a promise to STFU!

[kenny blankenship]

120. The psychopathic sense of entitlement just rolls on and on

donut?

[Lucky 13]

121. NEVER. ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NEVER.

Hillary herself made that an impossibility when she built up McCain while tearing down Obama, turned this race NASTY & NEGATIVE, and race-baited.

This is all a matter of cause and effect. Action and consequences. The consequence for her behavior is that she walks away with nothing. As it should be.

[Bensthename]

122. I reluctantly agree with you.. They compliment each other..

She gets the lower class, he gets upper class. He gets blacks, she gets whites. He gets more men, she gets more women..

If they were battling over the same demographics then a joint ticket would not be a good idea. But she picks up all voters that he is weak with..

Obama will have to consider that for sure..

[Az_lefty]

124. No Way...she totally undermines his message of change.

Hillary represents more of the same old Washington insider bullshit.

[verges]

125. I'm sorry but.....

and I respect you're loyalty to your candidate. But Sen Clinton is too divisive. We would lose independents and crossover voters. People really HATE Hillary Clinton.

On top of that, if a unity ticket did win, because of the Clinton presence, the partisan sniping would continue for another eight years (assuming a re-election.) In addition to that, it would call into question Bill Clinton's influence on the Oval office (a point that even Clinton supporter seem to be divided on). Would a President Obama really want to have to overcome the Bill Clinton shadow (real or percieved)?

Nah. Not a good idea. Really.
Congratulations on WV though.