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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:08 AM
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Email I forwarded to Clinton supporters/donors and to the FDP
Dear Hillary Supporters:

We've had quite a day today, empowered by yesterday's Mother's Day celebration. We'd been talking about the media's unfair treatment of Hillary and all the pundits wanting to call the race before it's finished, and so, today, a bunch of us decided to take it to the media in their own back yard.

We wrote the attached proclamation.

We want the "paper of record" to record our strong, unflinching support for Hillary and to galvanize women to pressure super delegates and the press to wait until the votes are cast before they anoint a victor.

The stakes are so high in this race; they are so far beyond a simple question of "who" will be our next President; this election is about what is to become of our nation. We all know this…deeply…which is why we are moved to create and place this ad asking this nation and the SD's to wait for the entire primary process to play itself out. Every vote MUST be heard. Every state MUST be included. NOBODY has the right to ask Hillary to step aside when so much is on the line.



The letter will run in full-page format in the front section as follows:



1) USA Today – Thursday, May 15

2) NY Times Sunday Edition – Sunday, May 17

3) Portland Oregonian – Sunday, May 17

4) Medford Mail Tribune – Monday, May 19


Top Headline:

Not So Fast…

Hillary's Voice is OUR Voice,

And She's Speaking for All of Us



Text:



We are the women of this nation. We are rich and poor, young and old, married with kids, married without kids, single moms, gay, straight, and widowed. We are every color. We are of every religion. We are from all political parties.



We love our country. Now more than ever, so much of what we cherish is at risk – our homes and our health, our safety and our planet, our children and our values. We raise our voices, in one glorious, defiant chorus, to tell the world that these times demand strength, courage and vision.



And that is why we stand united in our unwavering support for Hillary Clinton.



As Senator Clinton campaigns, she speaks with our voice. She carries our hopes, dreams and aspirations with her and transforms them into policies that can make our nation great again.



We know that Hillary will not rest until every American has health insurance, every child can start school ready to learn, every young person has a chance to attend college, every worker will have a safe job at decent wages. She will not rest until our men and women in the military receive the care they deserve and America foreign policy is grounded in human rights and military strength.



We know this because we have seen her do this -- at home and around the world.



We cannot stand by as a cacophony of voices demand that she step aside to smooth the road for another.



Women risked all they held dear to make this country great. They put their lives on the line in all our quests for justice – from Abigail Adams to Sojourner Truth to Susan B. Anthony to Eleanor Roosevelt to Fannie Lou Hamer to Barbara Jordan to Dolores Huerta to Hillary herself.



We know that when women vote, Democrats win. Now it is the responsibility of our party to hear our voices and count all our votes.



We want Hillary to stay in this race until every vote is cast, every vote is counted, and we are convinced our voices are heard.


Forwarded: My comments with the forwarded email.
Mrs. Thurman, It was a delight seeing and hearing you speak last night in XXXXXX.I'm forwarding this email in the hopes that the FDP will donate to this organization to get the message out that women count and that Senator Clinton is our voice. I will be forwarding this to all Florida Clinton Donors/Supporters as well. Thank you and your staff so much for your hard work.
Respectfully, XXXX XXXXXX

P.S. We did it. We won West Virginia by a whopping 40% and will do the same in Kentucky. We are winning the swing states because of all women's support. Women want there voice heard and the only person that can relate to women is a woman and that is through the voice of Senator Clinton.



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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:11 AM
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1. Unwavering support for Hillary...
Great Post. Thank you.

Go Hillary!!!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:17 AM
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2. !!!!!!!
AWESOME




K&R
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
29. I agree - AWESOME :-)
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:18 AM
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3. Sorry - it's over. You have my apologies
It's time to buck Hillary now, and start working for Barack Obama, our presumptive Democratic nominee. You guys are Democrats right? Will you be supporting the Democratic Party and its nominee when it is time?

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hill_win_2008 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:21 AM
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5. Hope we all will
Regardless of who is the nominee, I hope we all will support that person. Right? I know I will!
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:20 AM
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4. Why would you dare speak for All Women? We are not all united in support of her.
What arrogance. She doesn't represent me, and I feel she has done a great disservice to women, in how she's run her campaign. I'd love to see a woman as president some day, just as I'd like to see any minority - but I believe it needs to be the right leader, and that is not Clinton IMO.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Most of the women I know are disgusted by her campaign.
Of the women I know who have discussed their preference with me, I'd say about 75-80 percent are for Obama.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. This woman is certainly disgusted by her campaign. How presumptuous of the OP. -eom
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #7
15. Same here. I don't personally know any women that want her
anywhere near the White House.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #15
39. I do.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
32. Three generations of women for OBAMA,
in my family. The oldest, my Mom, has NEVER voted for a Democrat for President in her 82 years. That makes 4 women for Obama on my little branch of our family tree.


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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #4
34. I feel exactly like you do
I'm a woman and I support Obama. Why do you feel like you can speak for all women-it's like you are trying to tell people that all women support HRC. That's really offensive. I don't have any problem with everybody supporting the candidate of their choice and being enthusiastic about it, just please be honest.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:22 AM
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6. she doesn't speak for me
i think it's presumptuous to label yourselves 'the women of this nation' - there are many many women who do not support Clinton at all, yet you claim "We are winning the swing states because of ALL women's support" and that "the only person that can relate to women is a woman". I wonder how you'd feel if a man said something similar. You want all votes counted yet seem to ignore the vaotes of the women who voted against Clinton.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:25 AM
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8. You are wasting a lot of time and energy on a lost cause.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:26 AM
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9. Good you you for supporting your candidate, but I find it rather presumptuous to speak for all women
of this nation. I am a woman who is supporting Obama, along with all the the other women I know.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:28 AM
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10. Someone better take away Hillary's credit card, this is just adding to her debt
and it won't be long before she comes whining about someone bail her out.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:34 AM
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12. How dare these women speak for other women? Everyone knows that women cannot do what men do.....
Madame Curie? Her husband did all the work. Women as airline and Air Force pilots? That is a myth. Women scientists and engineers? Another myth.

All these successful women in virtually every field of endeavor? They are supported by men. The men in those fields move them along. Everyone knows that.

A woman President of the United States? A disaster waiting to happen...

They got the vote and now look at them....they want to be President.......
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:34 AM
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13. Right on!!!!!!
For me it's Hillary or no one. If she's not on the ticket in any way, shape or form, Obama will not get my vote.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. Then you are not a democrat. Why are you here??
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. Since when does the Democratic party rise and fall on Obama?
I think that he's a rookie who is not prepared to handle the job and I have no intention of voting for him unless Hillary is also on the ticket. I will, though, support and vote for my senator and the other Dems. on the ballot.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. what you indicated was if he was the nominee you would not vote for him.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #20
26. You got that right.
I will vote for any other Dem. on the ticket, except for the top spot.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #26
41. Then you're fine with sacrificing your right to choose?
Assuming you're a woman.

NARAL says Obama is the choice. Obama will be the Democratic Nominee. If you consider yourself a democrat, you'll put your petty indifference aside, and vote for Obama this fall. Or, as a woman - I'll put blame on you for anything that happens to our rights, if McSame is elected.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #13
25. You will have to leave DU in a few weeks, then.
Buh Bye! :hi:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Why?
I won't bash him once he's declared the nominee, I just simply won't support him.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. I have come to loathe Hillary, but I will hold my nose and vote for her if
she somehow miraculously becomes the nominee. That's the difference between us. You're not a real Democrat, because you don't give a crap about anything other than your own petty agenda. I care about the Supreme Court -- apparently you don't.
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:36 AM
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14. I sure hope that you have never accused Obama supporters of being cult like
or thinking that he was a "Messiah".

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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:41 AM
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17. Where do you get off with that?
I'm a woman of this nation. I voted for Obama and I'm horrified by the campaign Hillary Clinton has run. You do NOT speak for me or for a good many other women I know.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:43 AM
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19. Good. I hope it makes people think.
I was watching the basketball game at Happy Hour last night with a friend. It was pretty empty - just us, and at the bar, five men. The conversation turned a little to politics. All of them supported Obama. The two of us supported Hillary. It was very funny, because she (she's older than I, in her mid fifties) stood up and said to them in a loud voice, "They keep telling us to sit down and shut up! We're not going to sit down and shut up any more!" It was all the funnier because I'm generally the mouthy one.

The men were all a little startled by that. I was going to the washroom and one of them said, "I love women!" and I said, "Well, not enough to vote for one apparently!"

They all laughed. It was completely good natured, but I think we actually made them think about the underlying reasons people vote a certain way (and, I hope, made them like Hillary a little better, since they see supporters who come to watch a basketball game during Happy Hour and shoot the breeze with the guys).

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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:52 AM
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24. That would have made me annoyed with you
I love women too, have voted for them for local offices, but would not vote for Hillary over Obama ever. You are just assuming people are sexist because they don't like one woman's plan for the US as much as one man's. What the hell does Hillary have to do with all women?
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:44 AM
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21. HRC does not speak for this bitter old white woman, neither do you.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:47 AM
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22. "the only person that can relate to women is a woman" so Bill, Carter, JFK, FDR were bad presidents?
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:48 AM
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23. I realize the desperation Clinton supporters must feel, however...
asking women to vote for Hillary because of gender really is no different than someone else asking them not to vote for her because of her gender. Both are wrong.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:01 PM
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28. I, a 57-year-old white woman, support Obama. n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:07 PM
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31. Stop making HRC "all women" She doesn't represent me, she SHAMES my gender.
:nuke:
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:10 PM
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33. WHATEVER to all those screaming over this.
If this were from a group of AA's for O it would be applauded by you people.

You guys discuss the black vote all the time, how it's taken for granted and if O doesn't win how it will effect the black vote...Y'all don't have a problem with it when it's blacks but let a woman??? SPEAK UP? all hell breaks loose.


WOMEN are speaking up for Hillary - DEAL WITH IT :)
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:29 PM
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35. The prose is too flowery, but I support the basic sentiment of the letter.
What I find interesting to contemplate is that if Hillary were president and f*cked up the job, many people would blame it on her being a woman because women can't handle that kind of job, don'tcha know. But if/when Obama f*cks up the job, many people would blame it on him being black, because blacks can't handle that kind of job, don'tcha know. Because gawd forbid that anyone ever blame the POTUS f*cking up because he's male. Can't be that. No way, huh-uh. :eyes:

France came very close to electing a woman, a socialist. For all the disparaging of France from too many Americans, they are so far ahead of us.

I'll never in my lifetime see my ideal president: a pagan black lesbian Socialist :)
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:36 PM
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36. very nice!!!
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:39 PM
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37. I am a middle-aged woman
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:06 PM by CatsDogsBabies
and the mother of a young daughter. Hillary doesn't speak for me. Usually I speak for myself. I support Obama's candidacy.

I am sorry, but I reread the letter and am going to add to my comments. Since I am a woman, I assume I am allowed to respond to a post that claims to speak for all women. I think in ways that this letter perpetuates the victim mentality with which women are often stereotyped. While I think it is great for women to have pride in voting for a woman candidate whom they believe in, I think the sort of "we need a hero" or we are not going to be heard if HRC is not electedd or be able to act in our own best interest as individuals or as women does nothing for the cause of women. I don't need someone to rescue me, and I have never felt like a victim in my life. I also think the assumption that a woman, solely because she is a woman, will act in the best interests of all women or has more empathy for women, is just false.

I think it is fine that this letter will run in some papers, but be prepared for some critical feedback from women who do not believe that HRC speaks for them.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:51 PM
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38. Pro woman is not Pro Hillary.
Though I respect her service to this country and the trials of her life, they in no way reflect the struggles of all women nor of the woman's movement in general.

It is highly disappointing that so many feminists do not see the difference. I highly respect the woman's movement, it has brought about enormous positive change in this country.

So sad that Hillary is the one some have chosen to carry the cross.
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:24 PM
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40. Gee, thanks. I'm glad you took it upon yourself to speak for me! You
had no right to do so and I have and will continue to proudly support Barack Obama.

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