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Mon May-19-08 10:27 PM
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CNN showed some woman say "a woman's place is in the home" about Hillary |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 10:42 PM by JI7
when she was asked about whether she would support Hillary. and then she said it's in the bible.
this was a very right wing area in Kentucky i think. not much enthusiasm for McCain but they aren't going to vote Hillary or Obama.
how do people still think this way. i know it's a small number overall but it's probably a majority in that area. i think a lot of the Republican Popular vote comes from people who think this way.
(i think this segment is coming up again on CNN within the hour with Anderson Cooper)
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Mon May-19-08 10:30 PM
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1. All you have to do is read Santorum's book. He promotes that thinking! |
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He says if people weren't so greedy and self serving, they wouldn't NEED the money the little woman makes and could easily support their family on the MAN'S income! GRRRRRRRRRRRR.........
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Mon May-19-08 10:35 PM
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Have you ever listened to Dr. Laura... |
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...and her thousands of supporters/callers?
Dr. Laura tells women that their place is in the home and that working outside the home when you have children is irresponsible and horrible.
There are many, many people in this country who feel that way--and not all of them live in the backwoods of Kentucky.
I would say this attitude is present in nearly everywhere in this country.
As a stay-at-home mom--I meet lots of other moms. Some have this attitude, but most do not. But it certainly isn't rare!
I really could write a book about the stay-at-home moms I've met. Most of them are nuts. But then, so am I.
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Mon May-19-08 10:45 PM
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9. what do they feel about the mothers whose children are adults now ? |
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do they still feel the woman should stay at home even if she wanted to work outside ?
this woman on CNN seemed the type that doesn't just think women should stay home to care for kids but that woman should never work outside the home whether or not they have kids .
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Tue May-20-08 06:34 AM
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33. How about the fathers? How come it's the women who are always ordered to stay home? |
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Just because their equipment popped 'em out, they're automatically assumed to be the parent who has to stay at home with them?
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Mon May-19-08 10:48 PM
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14. How does she cook and clean with all that broadcast equipment in the kitchen? |
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Mon May-19-08 11:12 PM
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18. I never listen to Dr. Laura. She's just not my cup of tea. I will tell you |
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though that I went back to work when my son was only 3 months old because my husband was layed off from a Steel plant in Pgh. Pa. Unemploymenty wouldn't have paid the mortgage and provided survival for us. I respect everyone's right to decide how they want to live their life and raise their family, but I resent anyone who tells ME I can't do the same!
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Tue May-20-08 07:45 AM
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38. I have run into "those" moms too! |
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I'm a stay-at-home mom too and I've lived in the 'burbs of Chicago and now in small town Iowa. I've run into a scary number of the Dr. Laura robot women here in Iowa, many more than in Illinois.
They are generally good moms who want the best for their kids, but it comes wrapped in this smugness that is really hard to deal with. I know that lots of moms (probably most) have to work to put food on the table and pay for the necessities. I know that I'm very lucky to be able to stay home (but then, I'm also over 40 and most of the moms around here with kids as little as mine are in their 20's).
Women belong in the home and in the workplace and everywhere else. We are citizens of the world just like men are and people need to start to realize that.
Oh well, I seem to be rambling and I should probably get those kids I mentioned off to school...one hasn't gotten himself dressed yet.
Bettie
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Mon May-19-08 10:31 PM
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2. that was a terrible thing for that woman to say |
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Mon May-19-08 10:31 PM
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3. I'm a stay-at-home mom... |
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...and I find that woman's comment perverse.
A woman's place is anywhere she wants to be.
...except the men's restroom.
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Mon May-19-08 10:36 PM
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5. Exactly...we don't have to have |
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limits on where we can be. Just make sure we're straight up as our reputation is all we really have.
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Mon May-19-08 10:40 PM
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7. and there are many women who would like to be stay at home moms |
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but they can't because of the right wing economy that has them working long hours for so little.
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Mon May-19-08 10:56 PM
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16. That's right..not everyone wants to |
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out in the workfield. I can't wait to retire:)
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Mon May-19-08 11:32 PM
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23. I'll do my best to clarify... |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 11:33 PM by TwoSparkles
I was making a joke that a woman can be anywhere--except in the men's restroom.
We can't be in the men's restroom, can we?
I assumed men wouldn't like it if we strolled in there, just as women wouldn't like it if a man walked into the woman's restroom.
Does that make sense?
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Tue May-20-08 06:42 AM
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35. it doesn't sound transphobic |
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art you freaking kidding me?
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Tue May-20-08 01:42 PM
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apologies, I was iffy about posting that in the first place.
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Mon May-19-08 11:22 PM
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It's stupid to wait in that long line when the stalls in the men's john are free. I'd have to be a pretty insecure jerk to worry about some woman spying my willie hanging over the urinal when nature's calling her. Go for it. Any port in a storm.
:dunce:
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Mon May-19-08 11:35 PM
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I'll go in if it's empty and somebody is outside to guard the door. I'm not particularly worried about what your willie looks like, rather what some wacko might do with it.
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Mon May-19-08 10:35 PM
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4. "It's in the Bible." Well, duh. Just about anything's in the Bible. |
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Stoning people to death is in the Bible.
Coitus interruptus is in the Bible.
Slaughter.
Wars.
Floods.
That doesn't mean everybody has to emulate those passages in their day-to-day lives. This woman invoking the "woman's place is in the home" model and trying to impose it on Hillary Clinton does Sen. Clinton a grievous disservice.
In that same Bible, Mary Magdalen, a woman, appeared to get out quite a bit. I would say she was by no means a stay-at-home mom or stay-at-home single woman -- etc. "Using ideas as my maps," Dylan says. And using maps as my ideas, Mary Magdalen might have said.
Hlllary Clinton ought to roll into that Kentucky woman's town and make her defend that statement. Hillary should say to her, "I know you aren't going to vote for me, but I'm just curious to see if you know what the hell you're talking about."
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Mon May-19-08 10:37 PM
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6. Thats the Appalachian Bubble in full effect, parts of OH,PA,WV and KY are stuck in time |
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Thats what he saw happen in those states, they arent racist by choice they are racists by habit of the times, they move in a different time space culture.
All you have to do is drive into that areas small towns on any given sunday in the summer and you will literally be transported back to an oldtimey world where apples pies still cool on the windowsill and the corn queen is crowned.
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Mon May-19-08 11:11 PM
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You should really think before you lump all people from certain states or areas of the country together and label them. I was born in and lived in KY for 35 years and I still have a huge family there and not one of us is a racist (in fact, the vast majority are Democrats and quite liberal!). I've lived in California for 10 of my 45 years and I will tell you that I've heard more racist remarks made here in the Sacramento Valley than I ever heard in KY.
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Mon May-19-08 10:45 PM
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8. I saw that. Sad. It was in one of the poorest spots in the entire country. |
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If she votes at all I would think it would be for McCain but it sounds like they expect low turnout there.
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Mon May-19-08 10:47 PM
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i didn't see the whole thing before. that makes it even worse. the poorest area in Kentucky voting Republican. just makes no sense. i'm sure the Republicans get people to go in and bring up the religious stuff so they will vote on that rather than their life situations.
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Mon May-19-08 10:46 PM
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10. KY and WV and solid red |
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Mon May-19-08 10:53 PM
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15. "I don't vote. It don't DO no good." |
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Let me see--very conservative area and this guy doesn't vote. Works for me! Puleeeze, Mister, do NOT vote!!!!!
The areas where turnout is an important issue are the ones where people vote for DEMS!
Laura
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Mon May-19-08 11:16 PM
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19. Pathetic. So many women are complicit in their subjugation |
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and we all have to pay the price for it. It's certainly not the kind of attitude that built this country and it's not one that will help us move forward.
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Tue May-20-08 07:21 AM
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36. On that, we can agree. |
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Too many women subscribe to that type of thinking. Ann Coulter is another one who makes extreme statements like that, but notice she never shuts up and gets back in the home. You have to wonder where their head is when they make those types of statements.
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Mon May-19-08 11:17 PM
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Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.
Remember how competitive of a race it was?
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Mon May-19-08 11:21 PM
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21. Kicking and screaming into the 19th century. |
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Mon May-19-08 11:32 PM
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24. There's that down-to-earth, hard-working Appalachian attitude we certainly can't look down upon! |
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Mon May-19-08 11:32 PM
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25. Surely not a hard working white American? Why that's Hillary's base! |
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Mon May-19-08 11:34 PM
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26. the Promisekeepers tried this in Florida, too...the men all met and |
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say they are the breadwinners and held big rallies in football stadiums saying they should take care of their "women". It may bleed over into some Conservative Churches.....so perhaps this is coming out of Kentucky, too. Again, it is a "Conservative thing"...
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Mon May-19-08 11:36 PM
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28. You know, I just had a thought....I'll bet all the people in these states |
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that are voting for Hillary are voting so that she would be the candidate because they really want McCain due to the Conservativeness of the area. You see, if they vote for Hil now, then they won't have to vote for her since they think she is the weaker candidate against McCain in the end.
Hallelujah! That's it, that's why they are voting so non-mainstream at this point.
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Mon May-19-08 11:37 PM
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29. A woman's place is in the House...and the Senate |
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Later on, when we get a woman with more integrity than HRC, her place will also be in the White House.
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Mon May-19-08 11:38 PM
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30. Look for the sloped foreheads. That usually gives em away. |
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Mon May-19-08 11:46 PM
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31. It is so sad that there are still people that think that way. |
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Mon May-19-08 11:57 PM
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a set of tribal laws written over 4000 to 2000 years ago as the guide to live in the year 2008..ok
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Tue May-20-08 06:36 AM
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34. yes thats one of those non progressives |
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Tue May-20-08 07:33 AM
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37. Sadly there are alot more who think it but won't say it. |
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Tue May-20-08 08:13 AM
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39. More sexism from Obama |
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