Vote2008
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Tue May-20-08 09:31 PM
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Does anyone really think Hillary has a chance in 2012 after this disaster? |
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First off, Obama will be president from 2008 to 2016.
Even if he is not there will be no 2012 plan because she has ruined her image with 50% of the dems.
She had EVERY advantage this time around. And failed.
In 2012 she will have 1/2 if not more of the Dems hating her after the way she acted during this election.
What in the world makes anyone think she can win in 2012? This was her last hope.
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Tue May-20-08 09:32 PM
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1. The disaster of Obama, you mean? |
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Edited on Tue May-20-08 09:32 PM by Perry Logan
And let's not forget the charming Michelle.
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Tue May-20-08 09:33 PM
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Tue May-20-08 09:45 PM
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22. And let's not forget the charming Michelle. All of a sudden, Republicans are happy again! |
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Tue May-20-08 09:52 PM
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27. 'Don't be a silly billy! The Democrats could run a dog for President and win in 2008!' -Perry Logan |
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Got it right off his website, so it must be true. Meantime, I'm going to watch Ann Coulter pick up coins with her vagina and listen to Perry's explanation of why Republican women give the best blowjobs.
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Tue May-20-08 09:55 PM
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28. It's called attacking Republicans instead of Democrats. You ought to give it a whack sometime. |
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Tue May-20-08 09:33 PM
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Tue May-20-08 09:37 PM
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...that makes those videos that go about nine minutes too long?
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Tue May-20-08 09:46 PM
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24. They only seem long to the brain-damaged. |
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Tue May-20-08 10:05 PM
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31. I'm pretty sure they're too long |
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...and just a wee bit childish. But keep on making them. There's an audience for any thing nowadays. Hell, there are still people that support Hillary's campaign!
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Tue May-20-08 09:32 PM
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Tue May-20-08 09:34 PM
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5. The Peter Principle applies. |
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Sen. Clinton has been promoted to the level of her incompetence.
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Tue May-20-08 09:34 PM
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6. This was her last shot ... |
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... and she knows it. That's why she's hung on for dear life long after it was rational to do so.
She couldn't win the nomination this time around, having started out with every possible advantage. Another run would mean starting from a disadvantage on too many levels.
Not gonna happen.
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Tue May-20-08 09:34 PM
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7. Not a chance in hell unless everyone in the US suddenly develops amnesia. n/t |
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Tue May-20-08 09:35 PM
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8. Hopefully she's taking down the DLC with her. Looking forward to return to populists. |
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Tue May-20-08 09:36 PM
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9. A little reality for everybody is in order |
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due to the disaster the dem is inheriting, no matter who takes the WH, many analysis's are expecting a one term presidency. (and if the Dem does well, he will prove them wrong)
Second point... in modern democratic politics you get ONE try at the apple
Third, this is over, and she knows it... think Kennedy in 1980... where is Kennedy today? (I mean apart of very sick)
Her future will be in the senate at this point, and assuming the voters forgive her... her future IS in the senate
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Tue May-20-08 09:36 PM
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10. Never. Not even for dog catcher. n/t |
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Tue May-20-08 09:36 PM
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11. I am still angry at John Kerry, so it will take a while to forgive HRC |
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For letting her team use those ugly kitchen sink tactics.
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Tue May-20-08 09:37 PM
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13. no way. Unless we all come down with dementia in the next four years. n/t |
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Tue May-20-08 09:38 PM
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"disaster"
this is the closest primary race in my lifetime, for sure. And you call it a disaster? That's not rational thinking.
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Tue May-20-08 09:40 PM
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16. Monkey, let me use small words for you......... |
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She led in the polls by 40 points when she started. She knew everyone in the political field. She had a huge head start and lost. She is a failure.
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Tue May-20-08 09:42 PM
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20. That's a stupid metric |
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she was the only nationally-known candidate. Of course she'd lead big early on.
This is in no way a disaster, no matter how hard you try to portray it as such.
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Tue May-20-08 09:40 PM
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15. I hope America is not that stupid. n/t |
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Tue May-20-08 09:41 PM
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17. Did you hear McCaulif on MSNBC tonight? He all but said "the Neo-Cons are our constituency".nt |
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Tue May-20-08 09:42 PM
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18. She miscalculated on IWR & delaying her run until 2008 nt |
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Tue May-20-08 09:42 PM
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19. Not in this lifetime. Keep her out of the Defense Department, too. |
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Tue May-20-08 09:43 PM
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21. you mean for Senate of for an insurgency campaign aganst President Obama? |
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Tue May-20-08 09:46 PM
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23. Better chance than Obama has of winning the GE in 2008 |
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that one is more important than 2012.
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Tue May-20-08 09:46 PM
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Winning 50% of Democrats isn't a disaster. And next week is a long time in politics forget four years.
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Tue May-20-08 09:48 PM
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And even as I say this I'm just waiting for Hillary supporters to jump on me and call me sexist, but I remember listening to an analyst saying that at this point many in the party heirachy are privately irritated at Hillary for doing things that might hurt the democratic party in the election, and there wouldn't be much support for a 2012 Hillary run.
I don't know whether that is true or not, but I DO know this. If Obama gets the nomination, but fails to win the general election, and it appears to be because the Clinton campaign's attacks damaged him, the democratic party heirachy will never forgive the Clintons. Most of those politicians have more at stake in this coming elections than we do as voters.
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Tue May-20-08 09:56 PM
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If she divides the party so we lose she needn't think any real Democrats are getting over it so easy and forgetting. :crazy:
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Tue May-20-08 10:01 PM
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30. She'll be a great president, so re-election should be a shoo-in |
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Tue May-20-08 10:06 PM
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32. Dog catcher 2012? Maybe, if she outspends her opponent $100-$1 |
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