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Wed May-21-08 11:56 AM
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Good Morning Clinton Supporters, This is a very serious email. First I want to tell you I received an Obama phone banker yesterday here in Florida. As you can guess, it wasn't the most pleasant exchange between us. I ended the conversation with telling the banker I wasn't going to be held hostage or made to feel guilty for what he said was racism for the past many, many years. That I wasn't responsible for what was done before I was born and that if you took a look at the overwhelming votor block for Obama you would change your tune about racism. Then I left the banker with this message. After he said the Obama Camp will be focusing on swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida. I told him the race wasn't over and that we are taking this campaign to the convention in August and that we(Clinton phone bankers), will be phone banking in all swing states that he listed, all the way through the convention presenting our case why Clinton would make the best viable candidate and why Senator Obama would not. I hope you guys and gals feel the same way as I do? I do think the country is ready for Senator Clinton to help direct our country in a positive direction and that Obama is not. I do wonder why Florida is having Obama phone bankers when the nominee is not decided yet. All I can come up with is that Obama is taking for granted he is the presumptive nominee and that there will be no way he will be denied this. I suppose you could say ego at it's best. This in itself upsets me to no end. I will not let this happen with out a fight. That said, we are in it for the long haul to Denver. I say lets take this to the convention. I do believe Senator Kennedy in his wisdom would encourage this as he did the same thing in 1980 against President Carter. Think of it as fulfilling Kennedy's wish Respectfully, XXXXX XXXXXXXX Florida for Hillary '08
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Wed May-21-08 11:59 AM
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1. all I hear is the chirping of crickets. |
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WE'RE not going to be held hostage by you reality-impaired who threaten us with votes for McCain if you don't get your way.
piss off
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Wed May-21-08 12:03 PM
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2. You can deny racism all you want... |
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Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:03 PM by zanne
We all know that it exists. Also, Florida was one of two states where no democratic candidate was supposed to campaign. Hillary agreed to the rules; now that she's losing, she wants to break them. You'll get no sympathy here.
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Wed May-21-08 12:04 PM
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Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:04 PM by Blondbostonian
I don't care who you vote for.
This isn't going to the convention. The super delegates will vote en masse if Clinton threatens it. If you want to believe that fairly tale, so be it.
I know come mid June, this board will be about Obama vs McCain. You can protect a woman's right to choose and stop watching more soldiers die in Iraq or not because people were mean to you online then go for it.
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Wed May-21-08 12:04 PM
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Wed May-21-08 12:05 PM
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5. Shame on you for attemping to use Senator Kennedy as a political prop |
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Wed May-21-08 12:05 PM
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6. When Clinton Phone Bankers called me |
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Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:06 PM by Jake3463
I pretended to be undecided and kept them on the phone for 30 minutes if I had nothing going on. That way they weren't calling someone else and they'd call back and I could waste more of their time. :evilgrin:
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Wed May-21-08 12:10 PM
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9. see, thats funny, when I had Obama delegate support call me in TX trying to get me to switch my vote |
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at the convention to Obama, I took umbrage...
we had a very nice conversation.
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Wed May-21-08 12:15 PM
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only makes people resolve grow stronger. I knocked on more doors after a door was slammed in my face. Pretending your listening when in fact your wasting their time, now that is something that you can laugh about and the other person can't because they aren't in on the joke.
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Wed May-21-08 12:15 PM
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12. Then you are a sad little man |
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with no life.
Whenever I receive phone calls from others I tell them early on that I'm supporting someone else and thank them for their time. I'm polite and courteous with the caller but I get to the point. I do this for everything-telemarketers, pollsters (I don't want to talk about a product or a store), various religions (yep, have had calls asking "if I've been saved" and it turns out telling them you're a Methodist doesn't count in their books) and, of course, with political calls.
I hate to waste the time of others and I hate to have them waste my time. If they don't identify themselves within the first five seconds of the call or I don't want to speak to them I merely state that I'm not interested and thank them for their time, ending with a quick "Good day to you" and hang up.
Try it sometime. It might change your whole perspective on life, unless of course that phone call is the only human interaction you receive in the course of a day. If that's the case then why not take a walk with your newly earned half hour and talk to people at a local park?
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AllentownJake
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Wed May-21-08 12:19 PM
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I know how the game is played because I myself was making phone calls and knocking on doors. If I have a free half hour while I'm checking my email when they called I'd put them through the motions half paying attention. If McCain people call I'll do the same thing with them.
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Wed May-21-08 04:42 PM
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Why do you worry about what others are doing, whether Clinton or McCain?
I think it makes much more sense to state upfront that you don't support their candidate and to then hang up.
Why waste time? Do you have an abundance of time and nothing to do with it?
If I had an extra half hour I'd love to read a book, soak in a bathtub, make some extra special cookies for my daughter, bring a snack to a shut-in or have a chat with a resident at a nursing home or a half way house, assist with weeding projects at our various community gardens, etc.
It just seems like a waste of time and total disrespect for the person on the other line.
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Wed May-21-08 12:07 PM
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7. What kind of pep talk uses the word Obama 6 times, Clinon 3 times, |
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Wed May-21-08 12:09 PM
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8. and kinda funny that he is soliciting support from FL since he isnt helping them get seated. |
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Wed May-21-08 12:11 PM
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10. Why unleash on random phonebankers? |
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Attacking loyal fellow Dems, who care enough to actively volunteer, hardly seems productive.
But, according to his website, Obama is not encouraging web volunteers to phonebank Florida. Nevertheless, I'm sure his campaigners were calling local Dems to encourage volunteers for today's events, etc.
Finally, I don't think anybody should presume to know Kennedy's "wish".
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Wed May-21-08 12:13 PM
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11. I always wonder about people who feel compelled to say |
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stuff like this:
"I wasn't going to be held hostage or made to feel guilty for what he said was racism for the past many, many years. That I wasn't responsible for what was done before I was born and that if you took a look at the overwhelming votor block for Obama you would change your tune about racism."
Repugnant.
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Wed May-21-08 12:20 PM
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15. First of all, the OP was directing this to Clinton supporters |
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Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:26 PM by LisaM
I don't think it's going to the convention, but I have to agree with you that I am getting damned tired of being referred to as a racist.
I was listening to Thom Hartmann this morning and he had some Oregon political analyst who referred to Hillary Clinton as the "Queen of Appalachia". This was uncalled for and it went totally unchallenged by Thom Hartmann, which I found immeasurably disappointing.
There are plenty of voters who support Hillary on her merits. If O backers keep trying to paint all of Hillary's support as coming from uneducated, low-paid racist hicks, it's really not going to endear your candidate to any of us.
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Wed May-21-08 12:22 PM
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Kennedy endorsed Obama and in 1980 we lost.
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