SurveyUSA: Hillary is the Democratic nominee, Clinton defeats McCain.Obama, Does NOT!

[indimuse]

North Carolina, 24 Weeks to Election Day: McCain Defeats Obama, But Clinton Defeats McCain: In a vote for president today, 05/20/08, 24 weeks until election day, Republican John McCain defeats Democrat Barack Obama, according to this exclusive WTVD-TV news poll conducted by SurveyUSA. Today, it's McCain 51%, Obama 43%. But, if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, Clinton defeats McCain. With Obama on the ballot, the Republicans carry the state, 51% to 43%. With Clinton on the ballot, the Democrats carry the state, 49% to 43%. Against Obama, among men, McCain leads by 14 points; among women, McCain leads by 1. Obama wins the youngest voters by 10 points; McCain wins voters 35+. McCain takes 63% of the white vote; Obama takes 89% of the black vote. 28% of Democrats cross over to vote for McCain. Against Clinton, among men, McCain leads Clinton by 10 points; among women, Clinton leads McCain by 19 -- a 29 point gender gap. Clinton leads among voters under 65; McCain leads among those 65+. 17% of Democrats cross over to vote for McCain.

Filtering: SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 North Carolina adults 05/17/08 - 05/19/08. Of them, 866 were registered to vote; of them, 713 were determined by SurveyUSA to be likely to vote in the 11/04/08 general election. North Carolina has 15 Electoral College votes. Republicans carried the state by 12 points in 2004.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport_main.aspx?g=89a1b144-de19-4715-bb6f-97b2e817a23b

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport_main.aspx?g=89a1b144-de19-4715-bb6f-97b2e817a23b

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=89a1b144-de19-4715-bb6f-97b2e817a23b

[anonymous171]

1. The fact that only 713 were likely to vote kinda skews the statistics.

[hokies4ever]

36. Lowballs the youth vote

since they may not have voted before and are therefore not considered a likely voter.

[grantcart]

2. they should talk to gallup

[woolldog]

27. it's may 21.

that graph ends may 18. Why not use the current one?

[grantcart]

40. browser went back in time lol thanks

[Dawgs]

3. Because Hillary supporters are bitter cry babies that are taking there frustrations out on Obama.

These numbers don't mean shit right now.

[indimuse]

6. bitter cry babies ....sounds ilike YOU!

No matter what I post, ya gotta be...NASTY!

[endarkenment]

30. zounds! ilikeu2!

this is so cool.

[wininnov]

37. Gotta relax

I am an Obama supporter also but you've got to go easy
Maybe this will put a smile on your face

http//:www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxVZi1-kUvM

[grassfed]

4. xanax may help

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. Survey USA proved they don't know anything about NC with their 10 point oopsie on the primaries.

[indimuse]

10. Obama does NOT have the #'s...anyway you lol at it!

He is not STRONG ENOUGH..Even to beat McCain!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

11. Why did Clinton lose NC then?

[AllentownJake]

Why bother have elections?

Why don't we just take a poll of 1000 people in June and decide the nominee that way. It be much cheaper.

[Lady-Damai]

7. Who would be her VP?

:popcorn:

[DarienComp]

8. What, no scatological references this time?

Disappointing.

[NYCGirl]

13. The nice subdued graphic is nice, though. But no color text. I give this post a 4

out of 10.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

9. Also, this is one poll in North Carolina. Hardly the entire U.S.

[indimuse]

12. It gets worse...

sorry :(

[SemiCharmedQuark]

14. Really? Where? All of your links are to NC data.

[slinkerwink]

16. Look at the inner tabs. SUSA undercounts the black vote

as they did in their polling during the NC primary.

[Vinca]

15. Seat our delegates? Disenfranchised until required. nt

[cali]

17. one poll in one state means zip

and your thread title is a sad little lie. SUSA does not say hilly is the dem nominee.

Completely pathetic. I could show you polls in states like CO where Obama beats McCaine and hilly loses to him. Or NM. Obama would beat Clinton in CA if the primary were held today, and he whoops her in every national poll.

She's toast, indie, crispy toast.

[RaleighNCDUer]

18. Hillary would NOT win NC.

I guarantee it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

That's an easy bet since she *didn't* win NC.

[RaleighNCDUer]

41. I'm talking about the GE matchup.

OP claimed that she would beat McCain in NC.

No way. But Obama probably could (though it would be close enough that I daren't say he 'would').

[anonymous171]

19. OMG PEROT BEATS CLINTON! HE IS UNELECTABLE!

GIVE THE NOM TO TSONGAS OR WE WILL ALL BE DOOMED COME NOVEMBER!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6036372&mesg_id=6036372

[ShortnFiery]

20. OH GAWD! It never f**king ends!

:crazy: :P

[indimuse]

35. nope

[Gore1FL]

21. RealityUSA

Clinton cannot possibly defeat McCain as she will not be running in the general election.

[skipos]

22. Did they poll FDR vs. McCain? It is as likely to happen as Hillary vs. McCain. nt

[kenny blankenship]

23. Looks like somebody took the Pants Suit Express to Crazytown last night.

[jefferson_dem]

24. Forget SUSA's shitty record of polling NC...I say...Let them pick our nominee!

Fuck the voters and caucusers. This is a party of, by, and for...SUSA! :patriot:

[endarkenment]

25. Teh fail. It hertz. Oh noes.

[bowens43]

26. HIllary lost. Obama is the nominee.

do you really believe that surveyusa picks the nominee?

[Occam Bandage]

28. SUSA already proved it can't poll North Carolina. Next?

[EnviroBat]

29. Again, dumbest post ever...

"Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!Hillary!Hillary!Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!"

[FredScuttle]

31. SurveyFredScuttle: 1 out of 1 FredScuttles believes Hillbots are more delusional than meth addicts

[dionysus]

39. ROFL

[hokies4ever]

32. Good old indimuse

Still smarting from that pledged delegate majority victory party last night? I know, it must really suck to realize Hillary will be campaigning for Obama in the fall.

[Upton]

33. From fivethirtyeight:

"I would not pay especially much attention to the SurveyUSA poll showing her ahead by 6 in North Carolina. I am not saying it is an 'outlier'; I agree with Charles Franklin's philosophy that there is no such thing as an outlier. But this is the whole point of taking a weighted average of polls, and other polling in North Carolina has not shown her especially competitive."

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/todays-polls-521.html

[suston96]

34. Here is a good link....

I hate to keep repeating this but it is instructive......

http://www.electoral-vote.com /

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May21.html

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May21.html

These are results of poll averages and much better than individual polls and......they are updated daily. Good bookmark.

[dionysus]

38. ok, so based on this one poll we'll just give it to hillary...

:eyes: