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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:53 PM
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Democrats Set Rules for Meeting on Florida, Michigan Delegations
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The Democratic Party released rules for the May 31 meeting that will decide how the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated at this summer’s national convention. Like everything else about the dispute, it looks like the meeting will go on and on.

The party’s rules committee stripped Florida and Michigan of their convention seats as punishment for holding their primaries too early in the election season. The party had hoped that a clear nominee would emerge, scrap the penalty and welcome the two vote-rich states back to the convention.

That hasn’t happened, of course. So challengers in both states have appealed the punishment, and with only three primaries and 86 delegate votes to go, the party has scheduled a rules committee meeting to resolve the long dispute.

The party said in a press release Wednesday that it would devote the morning to oral arguments and the afternoon to “consideration and debate.” What it didn’t say was how long things could go on.

For each state, both campaigns, the state party and the challenger will have a chance to make 15-minute presentations. That means four presentations on Florida —from challenger Jon Ausman, a superdelegate; from both campaigns and from the state party. Michigan also is entitled to four presentations—from the state party, which is the challenger; both campaigns, and the party again, just to keep things even with Florida.

The 30 members of the committee can ask questions at any time. They’ll meet again in the afternoon to thrash out a solution, and that could generate fireworks. About a dozen of the committee members have endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton; eight have endorsed Sen. Barack Obama. Two members work for the Clinton campaign, including strategist Harold Ickes. The two chairmen—Alexis Herman and James Roosevelt Jr.–are neutral, but Herman served in the Clinton White House.

Ideally for the party, the committee members will have reached a compromise before the meeting begins and can save it the embarrassment of a knock-down fight. But any compromise still seems a long way off: Clinton continues to insist that all the Florida and Michigan delegates be seated, an outcome that wouldn’t win her the nomination, but would narrow Obama’s lead because she won both primaries.

If it comes to a fight and a disputed solution, the party’s credentials committee would hear an appeal at the convention in Denver. Any credentials committee decision, in turn, would have to go to the convention for a vote—setting up the possibility of a floor fight on opening day.

The rules meeting begins at 9:30 at Washington’s Wardman Park Hotel. The public is invited, but can’t ask questions, hold signs, distribute fliers, hang banners or make noise.


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Link: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/05/21/democrats-set-rules-for-meeting-on-florida-michigan-delegations/?mod=WSJBlog

:shrug:

"The rules meeting begins at 9:30 at Washington’s Wardman Park Hotel. The public is invited, but can’t ask questions, hold signs, distribute fliers, hang banners or make noise."

Yeah... Huh...

:rofl::popcorn::rofl:


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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:06 PM
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1. If Obama is smart he'll ask to seat the pledged delegates, and strip the super delegates. Count
uncommitted for him.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:09 PM
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2. Obama is flexible but is lawyered up for this.
He will not agree nor should he to sitting the delegates 100%.

He has the distinct advantage of having the moral and legal high ground on this.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:31 PM
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3. Is Harold Ickes going to recuse himself?
He and the other member of the rules committee who work for the Clinton campaign should recuse themselves. It is a huge conflict of interest.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:54 PM
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4. Not A Chance... Here's The List:
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Rules and Bylaws Committee Members

Co-Chairs - no endorsement
Alexis Herman (co-chair, Washington , D.C. )
James Roosevelt, Jr. (co-chair, Massachusetts )

Members - Clinton supporters (13)
Hartina Flournay (DC)
Donald Fowler (SC)
Harold Ickes, Jr. (DC)
Alice Huffman (CA)
Ben Johnson (DC)
Elaine Kamarck (MA)
Eric Kleinfeld (DC)
Mona Pasquil (CA)
Mame Reiley (VA)
Garry Shay (CA)
Elizabeth Smith (DC)
Michael Steed (MD)
Jaime Gonzalez, Jr. (TX)

Members - Obama supporters (8)
Martha Fuller Clark (NH)
Carol Khare Fowler (SC)
Janice Griffin (MD)
Thomas Hynes (IL)
Allan Katz (FL)
Sharon Stroschein (SD)
Sarah Swisher (IA)
Everett Ward (NC)

Members - no known endorsement (7)
Donna Brazille (DC)
Mark Brewer (MI)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
Yvonne Gates ( NV)
Alice Germond (DC) - DNC Secretary
David McDonald (WA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/meet-the-dnc-rules-commit_n_102924.html

:evilfrown:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:55 PM
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5. Someone should take a camera.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:57 PM
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6. THAT... Is A Big 10\4 !!!
:argh:
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KellyW Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:58 PM
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7. It will be on C-span
the last RBC meeting was
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:01 PM
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8. If the public is allowed that means press is allowed...
... are there going to be cameras? Will this be televised?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:38 PM
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9. If It Is Allowed... Oh Hell Yes !!!
The press does NOT want this battle to go away.

Great for their ratings, terrible for the Democratic Party.

:shrug:
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