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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:01 PM
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Good to see people finally seeing the light
You're way late, but better late than never.

What Hillary Clinton is (and has been) doing is nothing short of despicable. Many of us noticed it months ago, and now I see many more jumping on board. Welcome to the club. It's clear as day that this woman cares only about herself. I knew better than to think that she would drop out any time soon, despite all the hopeful predictions by many here that she had any sort of integrity whatsoever.

Even if the super delegates stand together and declare it over, she will drag this kicking and screaming all the way to the convention. She will whine about Florida and Michigan. She will say super delegates can still change their minds. She will attack Obama, attack Obama, attack Obama, while McCain silently builds his treasury and his base.

Don't bet on her doing the right thing. She won't. And she won't accept the vice presidential spot, either, because she's looking ahead to 2012, and because her fat head gets in the way of such a possibility. If she can't be president, no Democrat can be president!

I will not become complacent. Her continuing to damage the Democratic party is something that cannot be ignored. Unfortunately for Mr. Obama, he is going to have to deal with this nuisance for the next three months in addition to McCain.

No debates between Obama and McCain for the next three months.
No vice presidential pick for the next three months.
More race baiting, fake outrage, and nonsense for the next three months.

It is going to be extremely long and extremely tiring.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:03 PM
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1. After June 3
He can start acting like the nominee by announcing his VP.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:01 PM
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56. She will move the goalposts again. What happens after June 4th? n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:04 PM
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2. She deserves to be ignored as do her remaining supporters at
this board. Zimbabwe, my aching ass.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:04 PM
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3. Don't forget more sexism card played by the Hillary camp......
right after she cries.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:08 PM
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5. FrenchCat.....just when you think that she can't stoop any
Edited on Wed May-21-08 09:09 PM by MadMaddie
lower....to compare the Democratic process to Zimbwabe.....and everyone is picking on her because she is a girl....and to keep on saying that McCain is a better candidate than Obama....

The Super Delegates Must end this now......
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:17 PM
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31. that is so fucked up...
I'm glad that Teddy went home today, and I think being from Mass, and seeing the local news, had me feeling differently. Like the Democratic Party of yore, was still in existence. Then I watched Countdown, and Dan Abrams for the first time tonight in ages. I should know better by now. I am so pissed by the incessant lies, but smearing the Democratic Party like that is just..well..I should know better by now.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:07 AM
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41. thats what pisses me off about this party how can they be so weak and not see this bs
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:06 PM
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4. I wish the SDs would wrap this up already.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:37 PM
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53. The South Dakotans don't vote until June 3
Edited on Thu May-22-08 03:38 PM by hfojvt
Even though SD is apparently the most important state in the union, we are NOT gonna break the rules and try to vote early. :o

edit: I forgot the not :blush:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:10 PM
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6. If I were Obama I would do what we do with annoying people here at DU...
put her on IGNORE.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:16 PM
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11. Hillary is Freddy Kruger. She's everyone's nightmare!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:13 PM
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7. What a BUNCH of CRAP!
Damage was done the day BO decided to enter the campaign.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:14 PM
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8. well, enjoy your time at Hillaryis44. Because your time here is limited.
ding dong
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:22 PM
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14. I love 'death threats'.
Looks like freedom of speech and expression is endangered in ALL political parties.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:43 PM
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19. Granite pizzas do not = "death" n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:02 PM
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28. They do if one's "life" consists of trolling message boards and bashing Obama.
For some Shillbots, that probably is their life.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:41 PM
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58. This isn't called 'obama underground'.
Interesting how support for OTHER candidates makes one a troll or a racist. There is little wonder why HRC supporters spend their time elsewhere.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:52 PM
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37. You will not be allowed to attack our candidate.
NT!

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:02 AM
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40. Then don't attack my candidate.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:43 PM
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59. YOU have got to be kidding. Eye for an eye.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:15 PM
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9. ??
Barack Obama shouldn't have been allowed to run for President of the United States?

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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:19 PM
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13. BO is NOT qualified to run for President.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:24 PM
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15. You are not qualified to make that determination.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:28 PM
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18. Sure I am AND I vote!
So are the MAJORITY of other voters who will also vote!
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:50 PM
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24. So everyone who has voted for Hillary thinks that BO is not qualified to be president???
Edited on Wed May-21-08 09:52 PM by sfam
Surely you don't believe your own logic here. At best you can say that some 50%+ of folks in West VA who voted for Hillary think that, but if all the rest of those who voted for Hillary indicate that they will vote for BO in November (a far higher percentage in most states), it seems to be a fairly obvious conclusion that the vast majority of those who voted don't think he's unqualified.

In other words, just because someone votes for Hillary, it does not mean they belong in the Hillaryis44.com remedial logic class.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:53 PM
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62. Many that voted for HRC believe BO is NOT qualified to become President.........
Edited on Thu May-22-08 07:54 PM by Double T
and those same HRC supporters will NOT vote for BO in the GE. CNN has reported on this several times.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:50 PM
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25. Yep. The majority that will elect Obama.
And no, you still are woefully unqualified to determine Obama's ability to be elected and to lead this country.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:03 PM
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57. You're fun.
"Fun" in the way a dog would look at a chew toy.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:48 PM
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23. Lets see
over 35? check
native born American citizen? check
Lived in the country long enough? check

sounds to me like he is qualified to run for president.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:02 PM
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29. He is a born US Citizen over the age of 35 and has lived in the US for 14 years?
Then he is qualified.

Wether he is ready for it is another question.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:53 PM
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38. He sure was qualified to SPANK that proven liar clinton.
And the polls show he'll win.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:39 AM
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48. Obama's more ready to be Prez than the lying shillary would ever
be..she can't even run her own campaign except into the ground.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:32 PM
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51. Bullshit.
He is over 35 years old, born in the United States, and has been a resident for the past 14 years. Those are the qualifications.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:54 PM
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54. yes he is. So am I. And maybe you too.
35 years old.
AND
natural US citizen.
OFC he has to get elected first.
I'm voting for the Democratic candidate whoever they are.
(No matter how suspicious I am that one of the candidates'
husbands is way too damned friendly with Boosh crime family.)

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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:56 PM
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55. Good lord, you are looney tunes.
He's not qualified, yet he won.

Let me guess, he's unelectable because you don't like him?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:48 PM
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61. Do we let 'freshman' graduate with a PhD after their first term?
HELL NO!! It takes 8 terms before the student has enough knowledge to acquire a PhD. For POLITICIANS it should probably be MORE THAN 8 terms before THEY are allowed to become President!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:22 AM
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63. That's ludicrous.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:24 AM by Hissyspit
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:18 PM
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12. Stupidest post today!
And that's saying a lot...jackass.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:47 PM
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22. congrats
that may be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen posted, anywhere, ever.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:01 PM
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27. On what day did Obama decide to enter the campaign?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:51 PM
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36. Indeed - he damaged, then destroyed, her arrogant assumption that she was due.
NT!

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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:34 AM
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44. you forgot the
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:37 AM
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47. How did he do any damage by deciding to run?
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:15 PM
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10. Rachel Maddow was talking about this on AAR today...
Her theory (it was more of a plea) was for Obama to get the unpledged and supers needed Before the rules & bylaws meeting. Otherwise Clinton can tie the process up until the convention.
Although RM hasn't chosen a side, she very vocal that Obama needs to end this in the next 10 days....
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:24 PM
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16. Sexism Racism you still think that woman can't be Commander In Chief!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:04 PM
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30. We are electing a president, not a commander in chief
Standard military responses are utterly useless against our most serious security threats anyway.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:32 PM
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39. We have a war on two fronts where have you been? Idiot
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:02 AM
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50. Not if we get out of both and focus on true security threats n/t
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:27 PM
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17. Whining that she has no right to do what she wants is despicable.......
Individuality, dead in the U.S.? :shrug:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:46 PM
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20. So we can't complain about her destroying the party?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:47 PM
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34. Actions have consequences
She can irresponsibly continue down this path, but in the end it's going to cost a heavy price-for us. (For her, not so much.)

People have the right of free speech but that doesn't mean they can yell FIRE in a crowded theater. As a Canadian you should know better.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:46 PM
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21. Can't say it's happened to me.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:00 PM
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26. I don't know how these types of posts are allowed. This vitriol hurled at our potential
nominee is going to cost us in Nov. We need to start uniting behind the real fighter in this race, not tear her down with childish name calling and psycho babble.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:39 PM
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33. and yet the vitriol hurled at the OTHER, probable nominee
ISN'T going to cost us in November? Take some of your own advice.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:39 AM
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49. real fighter my ass
She has fought for one thing only... no make that two things: herself and POWER.

What has done in the Senate worth writing about.?!

Oh yeah, trust Bush and go along with him (IWR, Patriot Act, Bankruptcy Bill)

She is a monster. Randi Rhodes, Samantha Power and the right-wingers are correct about her.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:35 PM
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52. LOL! But you know that hillary didn't give a flying
f*** about FL and MI until she started losing, do you?!
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:46 PM
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60. Senator Obama is the 2008 Democratic nominee. End of story. n/t.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:19 PM
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32. yeah, let's get all frothed up arguing over the fantasy you've created
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:49 PM
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35. The Clinton's are dispicable people who will stop at nothing to win.
If Hillary doesn't get what she thinks she is owed she will bring down Obama and the party. She needs to be delt with and shoved out.Personally, I would love to give her a kick in the *ss.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:12 AM
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42. No Democrat presidential candidate has bragged about the color of his or her supporters since 1968.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:14 AM by Major Hogwash
The last time it happened was when George Wallace went on tv bragging about his "Southern Coalition".

Look it up, it's in the history books.

Wallace was a Southern racist who was pro-war for Vietnam - McGovern was an anti-war candidate from the mid-west who ran as positive a campaign as he could.

Hillary has done more damage to the Democratic party than she can ever repair.
If she runs in New York for re-election as a Democrat, I will support any liberal running against her in the primary!!!
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curious one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:30 AM
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43. Sorry to say damage is already done to the party.
Everyone comes on TV and says "I know she will do the right thing". I like to ask, please give me an example. She WILL NOT GO AWAY anytime soon.

The only good thing about this is McTheSame is a weak candidate.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:36 AM
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45. hilary won't accept the VP spot on an Obama ticket
'cause it won't be offered. hilary's about divisive, lying, warmongering politics as usual and that's not what Obama is about.

Do you think Obama has anyone working with him that isn't 100% behind him and our campaign? Me neither.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:36 AM
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46. Hillary Clinton -
Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:38 AM by FlaGranny
There is perseverance and there is bullheadedness. One is admirable, the other stupid. Stop being bullheaded.
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