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Fri May-23-08 07:14 PM
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IF you are willing to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt.... |
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if you truly believe she was only stating a "historical reference" then this is the big question:
Doesn't this show an extreme lack of judgement, a big "misspeak" (not MY word)....and aren't you worried how she would handle negotiations with Ahmadinejad or any other foreign leader? she's already threatened Obliteration...are you willing to risk it?
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Fri May-23-08 07:16 PM
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1. Not anymore than Obama's ignorance of statecraft or knowledge of geography! |
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Edited on Fri May-23-08 07:16 PM by saracat
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Fri May-23-08 07:20 PM
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Fri May-23-08 07:21 PM
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9. Because, of course, those issues are in the same universe as what HRC said |
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Fri May-23-08 07:39 PM
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21. Criticism of Obama's statecraft is right wing blogger nonsense |
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Further undermined by current Israel/Syria peace talks and Hillary's gauche and stupid "obliterate Iran" pronouncement. Objections to Obama's statecraft are usually tied to simplistic, ignorant and above all right wing imperialistic perceptions of the Middle East. Knowledge of geography? Who do you think you're talking about?
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Sat May-24-08 03:10 PM
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31. 57 states? Location of Kentucky?Near Arkansas? |
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Fri May-23-08 07:16 PM
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2. It's simply amazing how much "benefit of the doubt" certain sorts of people in this country get. |
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Fri May-23-08 07:17 PM
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4. Yup, I get what you are saying |
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Where was Obama's benefit of doubt during Bittergate?
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Fri May-23-08 07:17 PM
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3. She gets no benefit of the doubt from me. She is waiting for |
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Obama to get whacked, there is no other explanation.
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Fri May-23-08 07:18 PM
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5. Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt |
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her historical references were bullshit. Bosnia Part Deux
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Fri May-23-08 07:18 PM
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6. Well, you've convinced me |
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Fri May-23-08 07:22 PM
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10. your word, not mine.... |
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I might go for dangerous.... but that's just me....
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Fri May-23-08 07:34 PM
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18. Your evidence, not mine... |
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If you expect to see witches, then you're going to see witches no matter what the facts are.
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Fri May-23-08 07:39 PM
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(see witches??) not me....just a nice glass of red wine and some gardening magazines....
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Fri May-23-08 08:14 PM
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Fri May-23-08 08:21 PM
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26. otherwise, you have no problem |
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with the phrasing of the statement? She has carte blanche..."obliterate", "assassinate" it's all ok with you? wow, to think I was called a kool aid drinker here.....
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Fri May-23-08 08:24 PM
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29. I guess we see each other through the same mirror |
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Your reply proves my point; you've already condemned her as a witch, so everything and anything she says is proof that she is a witch.
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Fri May-23-08 08:34 PM
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30. Honestly, I've never called her a witch... |
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I have called her a Liar, I've also called her ambitious and determined. when she was first lady I continually defended her. when she was criticized I (still) would stand up and say that if she were a man, she wouldn't have been judged so harshly. ambition and determination are desired qualities in a man, women are faulted for that.
Since this January (IMO) she has gone beyond determined...and I can honestly say if she were a man I would still be done with her. And I wasn't looking for her to be anything, I was a Clinton supporter. I canvassed for her husband.
What it comes down to is that I want the BEST person in the WH come January. I want a role model for my kids. I want honesty, integrity, a moral compass and true leadership. You and I will not agree with this, but I chose my candidate in February and I have no remorse.
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Fri May-23-08 07:18 PM
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7. Because what this country needs is another leader with diarreha of the mouth |
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Fri May-23-08 07:22 PM
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11. She's just hanging around in case... |
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Fri May-23-08 07:32 PM
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17. wooo--that's a scary photo! |
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kinda made me jump when I saw it!! hehehe!
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Fri May-23-08 07:23 PM
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12. I give her the benefit of the doubt AND her judgement sucks, let me count the ways... |
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Bill Iraq war Kyle Leibermann 31 million in debt Oh forget about it. Her peeps, her message, her complete tone deafness...I am 51 white and female and it sucks. I can't even imagine what she looks like to the young. ALL I can say is PEOPLE she was the young hope when I was a bopper and it is infinitely sad to see her so completely sold out. Heartbreaking.
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Fri May-23-08 07:24 PM
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If she can't be trusted not to say outrageously stupid things... well, do we *want* her answering that phone at 3 am?
There's no positive way to spin this - only less negative. And her refusal, again, to apologize doesn't help matters.
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Fri May-23-08 07:26 PM
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how you can spin this and say "it's not that bad"....no matter how you look at it, it reveals a little more of her "character"....
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Fri May-23-08 07:26 PM
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15. I am willing to give her the |
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benefit of the doubt but....I think it is time for her to call this to an end. I truly think the woman is depressed and probably exhausted ..after this comment its safe to say she need not worry about the vp slot..so its time to go.
I believe she did not mean it the way its being taken but I also believe its a bad enough screw up that she cannot fix it.
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Fri May-23-08 07:31 PM
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16. I think you're right.... |
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I don't believe it was a threat, or a hope, but I think it was either floated out there to make voters think about what could happen--maybe to rethink their votes. Or it was a totally off the cuff STUPID comment, which again, points to a real weakness.
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Fri May-23-08 07:38 PM
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19. I give her the benefit of the doubt and realize that she is intellectually dishonest... |
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There were meaningful primaries well into June. And Bill was basically unopposed by June.
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Fri May-23-08 07:43 PM
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24. Honesty-Challenged, maybe History-challenged.... |
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Fri May-23-08 07:40 PM
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22. No. I heard her before and could not believe my ears. This is now caught by media. |
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Fri May-23-08 08:23 PM
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27. She has demonstrated an appalling lack of judgment. |
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Congratulations, Hillary. You've surpassed Dubya in that department.
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Fri May-23-08 08:23 PM
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28. I gave her the benefit of a doubt before and she hasn't paid me back... |
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I guess she's got more than one kind of large campaign debt.
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Sat May-24-08 03:21 PM
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32. the 'misspeakies' have happend (& repeated) too many times... |
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