Clinton supporters are quoting RFK jr. (but they leave out the interesting part..as usual)

[mckeown1128]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, defended her remarks in a telephone interview Friday evening. “I’ve heard her make that argument before,” Mr. Kennedy said, speaking on his cell phone as he drove to the family compound in Hyannis for the holiday weekend. “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.”

Mr. Kennedy said he has been traveling and had not seen the video or read Mrs. Clinton’s comments, but said his support of Mrs. Clinton has not wavered.


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/clinton-calls-vp-chatter-completely-untrue/index.html?hp


1. He hasn't even seen the footage yet... so his opinion of it is suspect.

2. Who cares what RFK JR. thinks about it. I know Hillary would like to make this about possibly offending the Kennedy's, but that isn't the problem. The problem is that she used RFK's June assassination as a example of why it's ok to campaign into June. The Kennedy's aren't going to be offended because she mentioned the death of their family members. They should be offended for the same reasons I and other's are offended... because she is using a candidates assassination as an excuse to stay in the race.

[PeterPancake]

1. More interesting to me is what the family will talk about this weekend

I have a feeling RFK, Jr. is going to get a long dressing down courtesy of Teddy and the rest.

[Carolina]

7. especially his mother Ethel, an Obama supporter

his sister Rory, an Obama supporter
his cousin Caroline
his cousin Patrick

BTW, I'd also be interested in what sister Kathleen, a HRC suppporter, has to say NOW

[tularetom]

23. Kathleen, the dumb Kennedy

My brother lives in MD so I heard a lot about her campaign for gov there several years back. It was embarrassing. She made one gaffe after another and wound up losing to a really weak Repub candidate.

Hey, sounds familiar, huh? No wonder she is a clinton supporter.

[AZBlue]

2. Typical.

RFK Jr. has too much class to publicly humiliate her - not that it wouldn't be warranted - but I'm sure he'll distance himself from here on out.

[cliffordu]

25. I think you're right about him having too much class to say anything.

But I doubt he'll be onstage pushing her for President anytime soon.

[AZBlue]

31. He may even be changing his vote, but just not publicly.

[OzarkDem]

3. You're grasping at straws

its a non-issue, non-story.

[tranche]

5. I don't think this is a "non-issue".

From looking at the boards, a LOT of people that have been staying out of this are finally speaking out against her. If you had not lost your moral compass you would be too.

[BeatleBoot]

12. Ah, the old Moral Compass

Reverend Falwell, is that you?

Or is that Reverend Wright?

[tranche]

18. Why was that necessary?

Wasn't even talking to you. Shouldn't you be off making an ass of yourself somewhere?

[jillan]

34. Ok-got it! It's okay to talk about Hillary's problems, but not Obama's.

Makes perfect sense to me.

[mckeown1128]

6. umm.... being upset that Hillary

is referencing a candidates assassination as a justification for staying in the race... is a little more than straws.

[Gore1FL]

8. hmm for straw grasping, I've noticed you can't answer this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6100891&mesg_id=6102537

[OzarkDem]

19. Pointing out a historic fact

vs. deliberately smearing a much loved elected official who's no longer around to defend himself. Of course, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Obama said it, the man has no principles.

[mckeown1128]

26. There you go spinning again...

no one has a problem with her pointing out a historic fact (RFK's june assassination.) I myself have mentioned that RFK was shot from time to time. The problem is that she used it as a justification for staying in the race through June.


So stop trying to change the subject. You are embarrassing your self.

[OzarkDem]

36. You're reaching and failing

her remarks had nothing to do with Obama. Obama supporters are making fools of themselves.

[mckeown1128]

37. They did have to do with Obama...

she was implying that she should stay in because candidates can get assassinated. Considering that Obama is the only other one in the race besides her...I guess I can assume that she was talking about him.

[OzarkDem]

39. Not at all

There is nothing in her remarks that even remotely implies that. Anyone who is old enough remembers when primary campaigns went all the way to the Convention.

[mckeown1128]

41. So why did she mention RFK getting assassinated?

Him being assassinated has nothing to do with the point you are claiming she was making.



How do you even sleep at night? I honestly can't believe you are defending this. Is Hillary the victim in any given situation. Can she ever do wrong in your eyes. :wtf:

[PatGund]

42. At this point.......

I feel like *some* (not all, but some) of Sen. Clinton's supporters are so blind to reality that if she was eating babies on live television, they would either deny it existed, claim Sen. Obama ate babies AND kittens too, or praise her for demonstrating new food sources.

[mckeown1128]

43. lol..... true...

Don't forget they would say the coverage of Hillary eating kittens is mean, sexist, and clearly biased for Obama.


I am amazed at how so many of her supporters online have made her the victim in all this. Darn that media showing her comments on the air.

[Gore1FL]

27. It is also an historic fact

the the person assassinated was a NY Carpet Bagger Senator who won the CA primary.

I doubt he would point that out as a response, but it is funny you are outraged over him **not** saying it, but fine with Clinton using a historical June assassination as a reason to stay in the race

[Carolina]

11. yeah right

that's why it's all over the news

keep feeding those delusions

[PeterPancake]

14. Do you really believe that?

Because for a non story, it has clearly gained a good deal of media attention.

[OzarkDem]

17. Here's a clue

Its more than obvious the news media is giving Obama favorable coverage and boosting his campaign during this primary. The sad part is, if he gets the nomination, the news media will turn on him.

[PeterPancake]

22. Uh-huh

But isn't that more about what you hope happens than a certainty?

[beezlebum]

15. good luck with that.

because wearing a flag pin and acknowledging bitterness are issues of substance.

[OzarkDem]

Much like his faux health care reform plan

Yeah, Obama is a man of "substance". What subtance that is, I'm not sure, but it smells a lot like horse hockey.

[beezlebum]

29. a "proposed" health care "plan" and waxing assassination

are two profoundly different matters- one is exactly lacking in substance since it's not set in stone, the other, a suggestion that is beyond the fucking pale and involved the murder of her opponent- you are out of your fucking mind if you think you're going to be able to manipulate her way out of this one by drawing obscure parallels.

i can't believe you would go into health care "plans" anyway- hillary's is no better and that is not wherre i base my support for obama; only kucinich won me over there.

major matters of substance: IWR, obliteration, reiteration, and now, assassination- substance.

once again- good luck. :eyes: can't wait till the fucking ignore function starts working again.

[OzarkDem]

35. Faux outrage

Clinton's remark had absolutely nothing to do with Obama. What a vain man to think the world revolves around him.

[apocalypsehow]

4. Well, the HRC boosters are trying to use his statements as a bludgeon to shut everyone up in the

aftermath of their Queen's vile remarks, but it won't. RFK Jr.'s opinion is just that: his opinion. It is a logical fallacy to say that because he is related to Bobby Kennedy, his commentary on HRC's filthy statements are the "final word" on the matter.

[JI7]

9. he hasn't been following her campaign at all because then he wouldn't be able to support her

remember that weird article he wrote a while back. he mentions bad people going after the Clintons like Scaife. if he had been paying attention he would know the Clintons are friends with Scaife now.

[Unvanguard]

10. If anything, though, the actual comments are milder than they're being portrayed

so I don't think it makes much difference.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

13. "the morbid fucktardery of the statement Clinton made..."

Hillary Clinton: RFK's Ass Was Capped All the Way in June, So What's Your Fuckin' Hurry?

The Rude Pundit 5/23/2008

An analogy: Hillary Clinton basing her timeline
for ending the current nomination process on the June assassination of Robert Kennedy is like a drunk guy saying he's got time for another whiskey because his girlfriend is busy getting gang raped in the alley behind the bar.

And someone really ought to point out to the Clinton campaign that the presidential campaign of 1968 was not a two- or three-year long process. The New Hampshire primary, the first in the nation, wasn't until March 12. Kennedy didn't even get into the running until March 16, 1968. By June 4, 1968, the date of the California primary that Kennedy won, a date that's four months later than this year's California primary, there had only been 13 primaries. Indeed, running until the convention was the only choice, especially after Kennedy was killed on June 5. By June 5 this year, every state will have had its primaries or caucuses. It's not that people were any more patient in 1968. They just didn't have a choice but to wait and see.

So, like, even leaving out the morbid fucktardery of the statement Clinton made and dealing with it on its alleged merits, it's deceptive and idiotic and out of context.

To Clinton's campaign and its supporters, who have been holding out for some gaffe by Obama that would take him down: How's that working out for ya?

[BenDavid]

16. There was no harmful intent directed at obambi in what HRC said,

and Robert kennedy did say the following:

"I’ve heard her make that argument before,” Mr. Kennedy said, speaking on his cell phone as he drove to the family compound in Hyannis for the holiday weekend. “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.” . . . is support of Mrs. Clinton has not wavered.
More from RFK, Jr.:

I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

Well - if RFK's namesake is not upset with Hillary and understands what she was trying to say- maybe some of you should CHILL!

If you think the part that was left out and it would make a difference in what he said then maybe it would matter but his words sstand for themselves....

Shalom
Ben David

[mckeown1128]

20. Understands what she was trying to say?!

You act like it's a mistake... right after citing her having used it before. Which is it... not offensive or a mistake?

[tranche]

21. Psst... It's not RFK Jr's place to comment.

Hillary didn't imply that a dead RFK Jr was her path to the nomination. It's Obama and the entire Democratic party's ass Hillary will need to kiss tomorrow.

[goclark]

33. Bet she comes out swinging tomorrow and looking for votes

The problem that I have with her is that she is not predictable.

That is sad in a President, especially after GW.

[Whisp]

24. obambi, nice...

coming from a bleeding hillaroid.

[MethuenProgressive]

28. "Who cares what RFK JR. thinks about it." Under the bus you go, RFK Jr!

:eyes:

[NJSecularist]

30. Yeah, who cares what RFK's son thinks about this?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

You Obamites would throw babies under a bus to further your messiah's political career.

[stillcool]

32. It is not about the Kennedy's...

it is about Hillary's strategy for staying in the race. Hoping for a 'catastrophic event'. Things such as what happened in 1968.

[Starwars Hillary]

38. Her idea of a "catrastrophic event" must be the month of JUNE itself

Because that is what she was talking about. But it's fun to pretend anyway!

[Cha]

40. It's not just the latest and most tragic hilary "gaffe" ..it's

the whole campaign she's run and RFK Jr is supporting That? My respect for him is no more.