Hillary just wasn't raised right

[CreekDog]

Today she blames Obama for her statements.

She hates being taken out of context, yet most of her Pennsylvania campaign was about taking Obama's remarks out of context and calling him "elitist".

In claiming the necessity of counting all the votes, she excludes 4 states from that metric while including Michigan (and zero Obama votes) in the name of "fairness".

I have never, ever seen a Democrat so brazen about twisting other people's words and yet upset that she is a victim of the kind of treatment she dishes out fairly regularly (treatment she doesn't approve of if she faces it).

What's worse is Hillary seems to be upset when she is quoted accurately and those quotes, even in their context, make her look bad.

I suspect if we were raised right, our mothers would not approve of such behavior.

But maybe I'm just old fashioned, though Obama has shown me that manners can work in politics.

[phrigndumass]

1. Victimhood is a political card she plays

It allows her to get away with vitriol.

Just imagine if she had run as a real person instead of as a long string of brands and stances and soundbites and negatives, she might actually have won this.

She has only herself to blame.

[moondust]

2. Hillary and Ferraro

must have been raised by the same pack of wolves. :shrug:

[JohnnyLib2]

3. Blame the mother!

:popcorn:

:evilgrin:

[2008]

4. That subject line made me literally laugh out loud

and I can't think of a reply cuz I'm still laughing

[smalll]

5. An Obamatron wants to talk about being "raised right"?!?! And mention "our mothers"?!?!

Don't go there. Just. Don't. Go. There. Don't raise the question of parenting while supporting Barack Obama, particularly in the context of mothers. Let's just say there's a reason why Barack may have issues with white people, and let's leave it at that.

[smiley_glad_hands]

6. Please clarify your statements and the racial undertones. eom

[CreekDog]

14. i'm white and i'm for people acting with class (even in politics)

Hillary is not acting that way.

nothing, not one iota about race in there. nada, zilch, zip.

[Swamp Rat]

15. Why don't you just tell us how you really feel?

You might feel better.

[me b zola]

16. There is something wrong with you

Seriously.

[Richard Steele]

22. Let's not leave it at that. Howzabout you explain your smarmy little insinuations.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

24. you need a hug.

And some fresh air. Go read a book.

[CreekDog]

25. Obama's mother is white

he doesn't appear to have *any* issues with white people!

race has no place in this particular discussion. manners are manners and so goes good conduct.

[AspenRose]

28. Sounds like Ignored doesn't have any manners.

.

[CreekDog]

36. oh that's rude

:spray:

[NashVegas]

31. I Don't Think He Has Issues With White People, In General

Or he wouldn't be where he is right now.

If you asked me which of the Obama's is more likely to have a chip on their shoulder, I'd say it's his wife.

[CreekDog]

34. he seems to be able to work with anybody --quite the opposite of having issues

the presidential candidate spouses in this contest are all quite outspoken, which I don't mind for the most part.

[helderheid]

39. nice sig line

:eyes:

[Bluerthanblue]

49. you've gone somewhere no one else on here seems able to follow-

You may want to address your OWN issues- and leave them off this thread-

I think the OP struck a nerve in YOUR life-

I hope you find peace

[roguevalley]

53. racism is a sickness. go see someone.

[Jim Sagle]

7. "Obama has shown me that manners can work in politics." Like when he gave her the finger?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[smiley_glad_hands]

8. Link please.

There are a dozen things he could have hit her with, some legit, some repug fantasies. He chose not too. Don't be so delusional.

[Jim Sagle]

9. Link this, smiley. If you haven't been in a coma the last two months, you saw the link already...

a dozen times over.

[smiley_glad_hands]

10. Link please. eom

[Jim Sagle]

12. Playing dumb is really silly. And that's what you're doing.

If you need a link, look it up yourself.

[CreekDog]

20. He's got one shaky incident against her many boneheaded and classless statements

yeah, i'll take that bet. :eyes:

[smiley_glad_hands]

52. Link please.eom

[blogslut]

13. Horse dung

You know very well, that finger thing was debunked.

[Jim Sagle]

17. YOU know very well that he DID give her the finger.

The "debunking" was a blatant, in-your-face lie.

[CreekDog]

18. so what you have is something that is hard to prove my complaints are substantiated

that doesn't make them even.

[blogslut]

23. Here

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IZE6E8CkFvc

He scratched his face. Please come back to Earth. Our country is in a terrible mess and we need as many people as possible to help us repair the damage.

[Jim Sagle]

29. You lie.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pNO58WdUptU&feature=related

[blogslut]

32. Camera angles

Did you watch the video I provided? That YouTube showed him from a different angle. He was scratching his face and he used his forefinger AND middle finger. If you take the time to observe him, you'll see this is nervous habit of his.

You can all me anything you want but I'm right.

[CreekDog]

35. you're right, no question --it's just that this is *all they got* (and they don't even got it)

:crazy:

[roguevalley]

55. okay, sparkie, name one other thing that can't be disputed that he

did to her. name one.

[roguevalley]

54. here. have my finger. you won't have to debunk it.

[Richard Steele]

21. Utter codswollop. nm

[Name removed]

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[Richard Steele]

45. Did you get your argument from Oscar Meyer? Cuz no matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.

nm

[OzarkDem]

27. Agree, Obama is trashy

Comes with being a Chicago style machine politician.

[CreekDog]

33. you mean like when he referred to assassination?

no wait, *she* did that! :eyes:

[OzarkDem]

37. Delusions of grandeur

He's also so deluded he thinks every remark Clinton makes refers to him.

He should see someone about that, they have medication for it.

[CreekDog]

38. speaking of medication

they can do wonders for what you've got. :think:

[Bette Noir]

43. Sorry, no.

Paranoia is basically untreatable. Very poor prognosis.

[CreekDog]

46. oh crap

:(

[roguevalley]

56. HA! And Bill and Hillary aren't? You don't remember the FOB's

and the Arkansas Mafia and don't forget their longtime ties now with dictators around the world who pay them money to sell us out. how selective your mind is.

[Middle finga]

11. Yeah she do act like some spoil brat who always got what she

wanted.

[Johnny__Motown]

19. SEXIST..... Oh, Wait.... no it isn't.............good point

[natrat]

26. people should play nice, that being said clinton acts like some kind of rovian freak

[ampad]

40. I think what you are getting a whiff of

is the stench of entitlement which quite a few of her supporters have that mentality as well. It's evident in their arguments as most have no problem saying she should win because she is a woman. Also the way some of them go after Michelle Obama for her proud of American comment. Most of them know what Michelle meant but their wiliness to take it out of context is crazy. You see the entitlement in those who make statements such as " I worked hard for this country and Michelle should be proud of that" Really, thinking that their hard work should make a complete stranger proud when they have no idea what that persons life experience has been like. It is crap like that that will make you wonder just how in the hell did these people grow up? You know shit is not handed to you because of your last name and not everyone had it as good as you did growing up. That is the difference between Obama and Clinton. They broke their backs trying to paint Obama as the entitled one because they knew that was all Hillary. Anyone who will lie over and over again and then have the nerve to shrug it off like she did has issues with entitlement. It seems she thinks we should forgive and forget anything she does because she is A. a woman, B. a Clinton. Look at how she has a majority of the Super D's going into this race. I don't know if she was raised with manners but if I had to guess I would guess no.

[KingFlorez]

41. It really isn't that deep

It's politics and politics has been like this for ages, how one was raised has nothing to do with it.

[my3boyz]

42. If I was her mother I would be ashamed of her behavior. Yet her mom sits there

beside her and seems to approve of everything. That's her girl! Ugh.

[Freida5]

44. I guess she just didn't have the Christian teaching BO did

[Spazito]

59. I guess not or maybe his Christian teachings included ethics whereas....

well, you can guess the rest, right, seeing as you seem to like the subtleties of this discussion.

[DemGa]

47. Obama took his freaking name off the ballot

When you take your name off the ballot, ya don't get any votes. That's a political calculation Obama made - HIS CHOICE.

[CreekDog]

48. she excluded four states from her popular vote count

while including Michigan --the point isn't what Obama did, it's the disingenuous statement she made.

[roguevalley]

58. he took his name off the ballot because he was FOLLOWING THE

RULES! you know, the shit Hillary ignores because she is the QUEEN, the GODDESS OF PEACE!(tm)

She cheats, pure and simple.

[DemGa]

61. Then please show how this is in the rules

Thanks.

[closeupready]

50. I agree with you. Hillary just doesn't have it. Obama does.

n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

51. I don't think Hillary has a very positive sense of self-

and those who raise us influence this.

Hillary's father is recalled by everyone (including Hillary herself) as never being satisfied with her. When she brought home straight A's his reply was that the school must be pretty easy.

Children need to know they are "good enough" just as they are. It is one thing to challenge our kids to do their best- it is another to never show genuine acceptance and unconditional nurturing love.

Despite his challenging life- I believe Obama was raised knowing he was loved- and that he 'measured up'.


peace~

[cottonseed]

57. 2 of the stupids Replies I've ever seen are on this thread.

One about Obama's "problem with white people" and the other about Obama giving Hillary the finger.

I know lack of sleep and exhaustion has been cited in Hillary's stupid comments, so maybe both her and her more stupid supporters should just go take a nap somewhere. We'll wake you when we're in the White House.

[polichick]

60. Her bio-pic is pretty interesting as far as the parenting subject goes...

Her father is depicted as someone impossible to please who rarely praised Hillary for her successes, just expected her to do more. And her mother is shown as the one who said "there's no room for cowards in this family" when Hillary came to her about the neighborhood boys not letting her play. Hillary went back outside and took them on.

imo she's still trying to please a cold father, placate an abusive husband and fight like the boys.

[CreekDog]

62. that's pretty interesting

much as I dislike this type of analysis (because I would prefer to analyze other more knowable things) I think you make an interesting observation.

[polichick]

65. That flick made me feel for Hillary the little girl...

But it also showed how ruthless she was during Bill's campaigns ~ flying into attack mode when Gennifer Flowers came on the scene in a way that shocked the historian who was in the room with her.

I think HRC will crash and burn ~ but if she gets enough love and a good therapist, she's yet to do her best work. (Just my opinion.)

[mudesi]

63. She is a sociopath (nm)

[MzShellG]

64. Since she was raised in a repuke household..she has repuke values.

Of which she is embracing now. Going back to her roots.