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Fri May-30-08 10:42 AM
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From what little I've seen of the sermon, I wonder what does this have to do with Christianity... |
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This would be a good time for both Democratic candidates discuss the relationship between church and state.
What's going on in the United Church of Christ? I used to go to a United Church of Christ church and never heard anything I considered political. The sermons were always about Christian values: loving each other, caring for the poor etc.
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Fri May-30-08 10:44 AM
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the antithesis of Christianity
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Fri May-30-08 10:47 AM
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2. I guess attending Trinity is like going to |
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an interactive comedy show. Very little to do with Christianity. All about black liberation theology and making fun of "whitey".
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Fri May-30-08 10:49 AM
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3. And what is your problem with that?? |
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Can't stand the same thing that's been done to AA in America since 1690, or whenever??
Hypocrite.
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Fri May-30-08 10:50 AM
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4. Let me guess: You're white. |
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Fri May-30-08 11:17 AM
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13. Well, I would probably guess that's the case |
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At least I've never met any African American women named "Cricket".
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Fri May-30-08 10:59 AM
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10. Unlike Hillary's pastor |
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who wants to take over the world and subjugate it to the rule of Jesus.
I'll take the interactive comedy show, thanks just the same
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Fri May-30-08 11:14 AM
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12. cite for the whitey reference please. |
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or are those scare quotes?
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Fri May-30-08 11:33 AM
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20. You realize Pfleger's white, right? |
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Fri May-30-08 10:50 AM
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5. What do 80% of Christians in America have to do with Christianity is the real question. |
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Fri May-30-08 11:22 AM
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17. THERE'S the crux of the biscuit. |
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Fri May-30-08 10:52 AM
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6. It has to do with Clinton Campaign desperate to bash Obama again. That's ALL !! //nt |
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Fri May-30-08 10:52 AM
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7. There have been many many sermons like that at Trinity, they just don't get any play |
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Fri May-30-08 10:55 AM
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9. DING DING DING. We have a winner. |
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Fri May-30-08 10:54 AM
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8. Frankly I think the UCC is heretical. |
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But it doesn't bug me any more than all the other heretics I see out there.
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Fri May-30-08 11:03 AM
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11. It's just classic liberation theology... |
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which ahs always been very political and focused on current events -- the Rev. Martin Luther King is probably the most well-known practitioner. From all I read, Trinity puts into daily practice all the traditional Christian values.
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Fri May-30-08 11:17 AM
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14. It's common in black churches. Their history is easy enough to google. |
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Fri May-30-08 11:18 AM
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15. You may want to look at the specific church |
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but not the whole UCC. I guess I must be a terrible person. I found his words to be mocking and sarcastic but not political. The priest should be disciplined and perhaps his apology should be directed to the Clintons as well as Obama. I have only heard the blip provided by the MSM and I am only addressing what is being played a hundred times an hour. The priest's comments were inappropriate and he should know better. We have had eight year or more of pastors and churches speaking out politically. The conservative, religious right churches seem to get away with it while a progressive church can say something about peace and have the IRS breathing down its neck.
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Fri May-30-08 11:20 AM
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16. Maybe you should watch more than excerpts then. |
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I mean, you.even use the phrase "from what little I've seen." Good Lord.
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Fri May-30-08 11:29 AM
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18. It has to do with hate, not Christianity. |
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And this church seems to have plenty of hate for those who do not agree with them. Obama needs to remove himself from the roll of the church if he wants to be successful in November.
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Fri May-30-08 11:32 AM
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19. I'd like to know, too. And I'm a UCC pastor. |
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I was watching this "sermon" in my living room last night, just having finished my exegesis for my sermon this coming Sunday. There I am, on my living room floor, surrounded by Bibles, lexicons, and commentaries, when I turn on the TV and see this. And all I could wonder was "What the hell text is he supposed to be preaching?!". The job of a preacher is to expound a text, not give his personal views from the pulpit. Pfleger was completely out of line.
And I'd STILL like to know what his text was.
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Fri May-30-08 11:36 AM
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21. The job of a preacher is to preach |
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Texts should certainly be the foundation, but it is not a requirement as far as I know.
Or is there some governing board that I am not aware of for liscensing minsiters/pastors/priests?
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Fri May-30-08 11:40 AM
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22. Actually, each denomination has a licensing board, |
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including the United Church of Christ. And yes, in the United Church of Christ--of which Trinity is a member congregation--the job of a preacher is to expound a biblical text. Maybe Pfleger meant to be preaching a text. I'd just like to know what that text was.
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Fri May-30-08 11:42 AM
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23. He's a Catholic Priest |
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Fri May-30-08 11:43 AM
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24. He's not a UCC preacher |
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take it up with the Roman Catholic Church.
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